She has in the past. (Reply #183) - Democratic Underground

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Tue Apr 12, 2016, 01:37 PM

183. She has in the past.

Almost assuredly she will in the future.

And, surprise, surprise, that's the only question you have almost, but not quite, left unanswered.

Try again, oh webley.

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"If the Democratic Party would fight as hard for the Working Class ..." [View all]	Scuba	Apr 2016	OP
Neither party was ever built	DetroitSocialist83	Apr 2016	#1
Yep. The Democratic was the left and populist wing........	socialist_n_TN	Apr 2016	#4
Our Owners Have It In The Bag And They Know It	scottie55	Apr 2016	#13
Show them the money! Working class wants things but can't PAY	Baobab	Apr 2016	#61
right--that's how it backslid so quickly each time	MisterP	Apr 2016	#42
Dem's are not comunist: your post smacks of comunism: its not organized for one Ideal	lewebley3	Apr 2016	#69
Oh, no, not you again. Stick to the fascist forum.	Zephyrbag	Apr 2016	#98
Stop attacking the party be because you are supportng Sanders	lewebley3	Apr 2016	#101
Nah he should stay - perhaps he'll learn something.	GoneOffShore	Apr 2016	#113
Hasn't happened yet.	Scuba	Apr 2016	#123
And won't appear to. A Turd Way apologist and enabler.	GoneOffShore	Apr 2016	#136
Nothing bourgeoise about the Dem party: The Dem party put people	lewebley3	Apr 2016	#175
Yeah as long as the "people" have ownership of the means of production......	socialist_n_TN	Apr 2016	#187
Cummisn was crazy failure	lewebley3	Apr 2016	#188
The Iron Law of Oligarchy	TalkingDog	Apr 2016	#47
Sorry: the GOP are the Oligarchy not Hillary	lewebley3	Apr 2016	#67
The Democrats sold out too	Meteor Man	Apr 2016	#99
The never have sold out: they just reject Sanders: he is not Dem	lewebley3	Apr 2016	#103
Right	Meteor Man	Apr 2016	#105
The are :they work hard for American's and they have accomplishments	lewebley3	Apr 2016	#107
Accomplishments for the rich and powerful.	GoneOffShore	Apr 2016	#114
I'm pretty sure it's not in the sand.	Scuba	Apr 2016	#124
might be sand in the vaseline	reddread	Apr 2016	#131
Ummm, no thanks!	Scuba	Apr 2016	#132
It's not in the sand.	Enthusiast	Apr 2016	#158
I think you are wasting your time with that one	truebluegreen	Apr 2016	#167
they are some of the Dem's	lewebley3	Apr 2016	#176
Bernie is as much a Democrat as you are. nt	Live and Learn	Apr 2016	#164
Way more so	laserhaas	Apr 2016	#172
Sanders has not run as a Dem and won an office:tha'st one reason he shouldn't	lewebley3	Apr 2016	#194
Since when is any of that a requirement to be a Democrat or run for office?	Live and Learn	Apr 2016	#202
Oh Puh puck puhhllleeeaaassseee	laserhaas	Apr 2016	#171
Obamas "third term"	Plucketeer	Apr 2016	#173
We can only be so lucky to have a Obama 3rd: Hillary will not have 16%	lewebley3	Apr 2016	#174
Very true!	Silver_Witch	Apr 2016	#133
No. Dem's have never thrown workers under any bus :they have just rejecred	lewebley3	Apr 2016	#178
Ha Ha...HRC is NOT an oligarch..entitled	laserhaas	Apr 2016	#166
Hillary worked for every thing she has: and she has been	lewebley3	Apr 2016	#179
Got inside the bubble of privilege as soon as she could.	GoneOffShore	Apr 2016	#184
If what you said were true she would. a GOP party person::instead she is fighting for all the	lewebley3	Apr 2016	#190
I'm not 5he one lying to myself	laserhaas	Apr 2016	#186
Your life savings was stole by the GOP	lewebley3	Apr 2016	#189
My life savings and career destroyed bSachs & Bain fraud covered up by Corruption/ willful blindness	laserhaas	Apr 2016	#191
Bush and the GOP are to blame:	lewebley3	Apr 2016	#193
Hillary is beating Sanders because the people trust her: She helped rebuild	lewebley3	Apr 2016	#196
The same problem would result	1939	Apr 2016	#119
Reading the new Thomas Frank book and he disagrees	martigras	Apr 2016	#57
Made a deal to privatize Social Security	laserhaas	Apr 2016	#169
Agreed::The Dem party is a shape sifting enitity: reps the needs of the non GOP	lewebley3	Apr 2016	#66
The deal didn't come from trade unions: it came because the country was flat on its back:	lewebley3	Apr 2016	#71
Absolutely correct!!!!	Fantastic Anarchist	Apr 2016	#129
Truth there...	think	Apr 2016	#2
Do you really think the ruling class put all their eggs in one basket?	Skwmom	Apr 2016	#3
Nope. Better to "own" both baskets.	Scuba	Apr 2016	#8
That is the fact that most don't realize.	pangaia	Apr 2016	#19
The most recent sale was held in the '80 when the Clintons Sold the PArty to the Koch Bros	Ferd Berfel	Apr 2016	#23
+1 nt	Duval	Apr 2016	#46
The Clintion's didn't sell out anyone:they pulled 7.4m out poverty	lewebley3	Apr 2016	#74
They invented the Information Age.	DemocracyDirect	Apr 2016	#77
They created wealth for the middle class: Bush crashed everything	lewebley3	Apr 2016	#81
Unfortunately the repeal of Glass-Steagal probably had a lot to do with 2008.	DemocracyDirect	Apr 2016	#89
You're wasting keystrokes with that one.	Scuba	Apr 2016	#125
I know...	DemocracyDirect	Apr 2016	#126
Set in stone...Billy,s legacy is	laserhaas	Apr 2016	#168
Concur. Staying silent leads uniformed to believe Bull Chit.. I regret	laserhaas	Apr 2016	#198
I know. Her, mis'an and others - all love to rub salt in victims wounds	laserhaas	Apr 2016	#195
Glass-Stegal allowed the 2008 crash	Ferd Berfel	Apr 2016	#153
No the GOP crashed everything: Everything was good when Clinton left	lewebley3	Apr 2016	#197
Clinton set up the crash with	Ferd Berfel	Apr 2016	#199
No he rasied taxes on the rich: there was bank regulations:: Bush deregulated and cut taxes	lewebley3	Apr 2016	#200
You change the subject of your poat because you were wrong:	lewebley3	Apr 2016	#180
hmmm	Ferd Berfel	Apr 2016	#152
Bingo- and then distract us with things like guns, gays and abortion	Marrah_G	Apr 2016	#62
^^^THIS^^^!!!	Dustlawyer	Apr 2016	#157
The "Rothschild's Method".	Phlem	Apr 2016	#82
We were sold on the "two for one" idea clear back in 1992.	Major Hogwash	Apr 2016	#84
Good point. That would presume that their loyalty to a letter D or R is a higher priority than	GoneFishin	Apr 2016	#12
Eggzactly!	Plucketeer	Apr 2016	#51
It may very well be	PowerToThePeople	Apr 2016	#5
We can only hope.	SoapBox	Apr 2016	#10
We can only hope so........	socialist_n_TN	Apr 2016	#11
I'm sure many of you already know this, but there is a viable	KPN	Apr 2016	#30
True, but they are only active in states that allow fusion voting	eridani	Apr 2016	#109
Right. Mostly beciuase they see what Bernie saw and did --	KPN	Apr 2016	#111
No--the major opposition to fusion voting occurred in the 19th century	eridani	Apr 2016	#112
Ah. Didn't know that.	KPN	Apr 2016	#139
Nahh.... we are a two party system. that's it. What will lilely happen is the Dems will fracture	FighttheFuture	Apr 2016	#37
Highly doubtful. nt	COLGATE4	Apr 2016	#135
That's it in a nutshell. I would add that by only pretending to fight for average Americans while	GoneFishin	Apr 2016	#6
"contempt for average people"	scottie55	Apr 2016	#15
Couldn't agree more -- looking at the DNC at least.	KPN	Apr 2016	#32
It has become perfectly obvious despite the propaganda to the contrary.	Enthusiast	Apr 2016	#159
If All Democrats Truly Were Populists There Would Be No Republicans	scottie55	Apr 2016	#7
"Rocket surgery" ... I like that! Made me laugh.	KPN	Apr 2016	#33
Wrong: the GOP are about greed: as long as there is greed there will be GOP	lewebley3	Apr 2016	#78
The Turd Way Class loves their positions, power and money too.	SoapBox	Apr 2016	#9
When do they act like they care......from Eat your peas...to...welfare reform/cutting food stamp	SammyWinstonJack	Apr 2016	#31
It has been an eye opener for sure.	KPN	Apr 2016	#34
During the 30s-60s	DetroitSocialist83	Apr 2016	#14
The stuff wasn't free. It is paid for by the labor of the people. It is our opponents who call it	jtuck004	Apr 2016	#26
Absolutely true!	silverweb	Apr 2016	#60
Hey! Please drop the "free stuff" and "handing out gifts" (your upthread post) talk.	KPN	Apr 2016	#35
Sorry guys	DetroitSocialist83	Apr 2016	#48
Yeah use the sarcasm icon.......	socialist_n_TN	Apr 2016	#73
Huh?	Person 2713	Apr 2016	#44
If the DLC fought for the 99% the Rs would be powerless.	Dont call me Shirley	Apr 2016	#16
well, I think we know what the DLC is all about	Fast Walker 52	Apr 2016	#27
The 99%came from the GOP:not Clinton. he raised taxes on the rich 1%	lewebley3	Apr 2016	#75
And quite happily ushered in "Welfare Reform" and NAFTA	GoneOffShore	Apr 2016	#115
Welfare fair and NAFTA: were administer under Bush: The country was sound and debt free	lewebley3	Apr 2016	#118
Sorry no. WJC & HRC laid the groundwork for todays oligarchs.	GoneOffShore	Apr 2016	#141
Clinton laid the ground work for a great economy: Bush felt he had to give money back	lewebley3	Apr 2016	#142
So why does she support the private prison industry?	GoneOffShore	Apr 2016	#146
She. doesn't support any prison industry: your post just nonsense	lewebley3	Apr 2016	#177
She has in the past.	GoneOffShore	Apr 2016	#183
Stop with smearing lies about Hillary	lewebley3	Apr 2016	#192
You continue to not respond to questions.	GoneOffShore	Apr 2016	#201
It's now almost 24 hours and no reply to my questions. I wonder why?	GoneOffShore	Apr 2016	#156
Probably have to create a new unknown identity. Blew that one.	Enthusiast	Apr 2016	#161
The wind from Camp Weathervane blows in odd directions.	GoneOffShore	Apr 2016	#185
the biggest problem is an uniformed and brainwashed electorate that votes against its own best	Takket	Apr 2016	#17
True that !!!	pangaia	Apr 2016	#20
but of course the PTB perpetuate this system too-- and work hard to brainwash them	Fast Walker 52	Apr 2016	#29
Good point. I was really hoping Michael Moore's new	2cannan	Apr 2016	#49
Who are you to decide others are not voting their best interest: you sound like a Sanders	lewebley3	Apr 2016	#76
Year after year, decade after decade.	Major Hogwash	Apr 2016	#90
They've been brainwashed into believing the poor have it too good	Martin Eden	Apr 2016	#170
No matter where your sister found it...	ReRe	Apr 2016	#18
Right on for your sister. I agree that wherever she got it, it's good stuff. Go Bernie!	highprincipleswork	Apr 2016	#21
The Ruling Class has lot's of $$ and major media behind them. Lazy thinkers	vkkv	Apr 2016	#22
Well done.	zentrum	Apr 2016	#24
Yes, this fits with what I posted this morning	Fast Walker 52	Apr 2016	#25
K and R nt	Rebkeh	Apr 2016	#28
Before New Democrats, the Party did fight hard for workers and those who can't work.	merrily	Apr 2016	#36
The Dem party has never stopped fighting for workers: they	lewebley3	Apr 2016	#79
REALLY? They lost 3 Presidentials--Reagan was a one off, though--but they controlled Congress	merrily	Apr 2016	#120
Under Clinton there was mostly peace and prosperity: would love Hillary to be President	lewebley3	Apr 2016	#121
That's not true either. He bombed Iraq, like Poppy and Dimson and there were other	merrily	Apr 2016	#122
Clinton inherited Iraq: and chose not invade like Bush: Kosvos was Clinton,	lewebley3	Apr 2016	#143
Nope he did not inherit Iraq. It was over. He decided to bomb it all on his own.	merrily	Apr 2016	#144
Clinton contained Iraq	lewebley3	Apr 2016	#154
Memories . . light the corners of my mind . . misty water-colored memories . . of the way we were	Major Hogwash	Apr 2016	#100
The proof is in the pudding. 80 people own over half the worlds wealth. I don't think some folks	Rex	Apr 2016	#38
What we need to understand most is that it is a continuing struggle.	kristopher	Apr 2016	#39
Non-pop Dem-lite is a great gig. Lots of money. Bandaid change or two bring quick results.	Festivito	Apr 2016	#40
Frank Thomas........................."Listen Liberals"...............................	turbinetree	Apr 2016	#41
Ought to be required reading for any liberal	martigras	Apr 2016	#59
FDR.........................	turbinetree	Apr 2016	#86
Honk!	ReRe	Apr 2016	#92
Thomas Frank..................................	turbinetree	Apr 2016	#134
This is why I suspect a lot of "Hillary supporters" here are paid.	Odin2005	Apr 2016	#43
And obviously not paid enough.	GoneOffShore	Apr 2016	#150
Me too.	Enthusiast	Apr 2016	#162
The Democratic Party Elite have abandoned the Working Class years ago. nm	rhett o rick	Apr 2016	#45
+1	bobthedrummer	Apr 2016	#53
When We Stand Together - No Citizen Need Settle For The Lesser Of Two Corporate Evils - Go Bernie Go	cantbeserious	Apr 2016	#50
The Democratic Party, at least the faction of it that's currently in control,	The Velveteen Ocelot	Apr 2016	#52
The people who control the Dem's are people who have won elections: they should be in charge	lewebley3	Apr 2016	#87
"Put their lives on the line"?	The Velveteen Ocelot	Apr 2016	#88
You wouldn't ask that if you ever ran for office: you bash at real progressives	lewebley3	Apr 2016	#93
LOL! You want to explain to me how Hillary qualifies as a "real progressive"?	The Velveteen Ocelot	Apr 2016	#95
You wouldn't know a real progressive if one bit you on the ass.	Enthusiast	Apr 2016	#163
you should put principle before party	eniwetok	Apr 2016	#97
The party is based on principles: it is the basic idea of people 1St	lewebley3	Apr 2016	#106
Truth!	cer7711	Apr 2016	#54
Beautifully put. Thanks.	Scuba	Apr 2016	#55
This^^^!	Phlem	Apr 2016	#56
Kicked and recommended.	Uncle Joe	Apr 2016	#58
It would be GREAT if all our fellow Dems who support Hillary	Oldenuff	Apr 2016	#63
This is absolutely true, Scuba. Most voters want real Democrats to run the nation.	Enthusiast	Apr 2016	#64
There's a revolution coming.	WHEN CRABS ROAR	Apr 2016	#65
I've seen stuff from conservatives claiming Republicans are the party of the working class....	Spitfire of ATJ	Apr 2016	#68
sure... they crash wages then compensate with irresponsible tax cuts.	eniwetok	Apr 2016	#96
Dem's should be about all American'.,not just the working class: Dem's come from all walks of income	lewebley3	Apr 2016	#70
Who are you to complain about what the party has not done: What	lewebley3	Apr 2016	#72
Why are you conflating ALL Dems as one?	eniwetok	Apr 2016	#83
Hillary and.Obama have done the progressive work: the other Dem's	lewebley3	Apr 2016	#91
I hardly consider Obama or Hillary to be "Progressives"	eniwetok	Apr 2016	#94
Obama's ACA is the biggest progressive action since LBJ:	lewebley3	Apr 2016	#108
cherry picking	eniwetok	Apr 2016	#145
No cherry picking: five other President tied before hin:	lewebley3	Apr 2016	#155
it's cherrypicking because	eniwetok	Apr 2016	#181
oh come on	chillfactor	Apr 2016	#80
the leadership of BOTH parties is corrupt	Zephyrbag	Apr 2016	#104
Bernie Fans don't know how to bash the GOP	CorkySt.Clair	Apr 2016	#137
K&R...	spanone	Apr 2016	#85
why are many working class white people voting for Donald Trump over Bernie Sanders ?	JI7	Apr 2016	#102
Because they hate Mexicans more than banksters n/t	eridani	Apr 2016	#110
Totally on point! nt	Raine	Apr 2016	#116
K&R!	Lunabell	Apr 2016	#117
The party rules for the elite and the establishment's benefit need to go. The people need to	bkkyosemite	Apr 2016	#127
As much as I hate to say it...November is shaping up to...	yourout	Apr 2016	#128
"As much as I hate to say it."	CorkySt.Clair	Apr 2016	#138
woo rec number 300!!! nt	retrowire	Apr 2016	#130
So true, that's why I fully support Bernie Sanders.	B Calm	Apr 2016	#140
Supreme court nominee says it all	RedCloud	Apr 2016	#147
Yep. I was pulling for a true progressive, which would have made the Republicans wet their pants.	Scuba	Apr 2016	#148
K&R	myrna minx	Apr 2016	#149
emphasis on working class....tired of all this middle class bs...hell the walton prob think they are	dembotoz	Apr 2016	#151
Excellent post, Scuba	MissDeeds	Apr 2016	#160
Worthy post. Thanks!	FailureToCommunicate	Apr 2016	#165
"They say America needs a third party. It sure could use a second one." - Jim Hightower.	HughBeaumont	Apr 2016	#182

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