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Baobab

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59. Its my understanding that by definition, the various programs that use L-1 visa holders are supposed
Thu Apr 28, 2016, 08:25 PM
Apr 2016

to be for "skilled" workers only. But in practice it seems that most of them aren't so much. They have to have a degree, a 4 year degree, but they are often close to entry level, they are the people who a decade or so would have been taken by a college grad or a really good self taught person at the beginning of their career. the motivation is lower wages. They literally can get four workers for what they would normally pay for one.

Businesses that specialize in a computer based product would be less likely to hire them, they basically get the jobs in non-computing centric industries that require a warm body there and a medium level of computer skill. Sure, they do coding, that is why they are there.

Yes, that is the unskilled job of the future. Not so far into the future, software will write most software.

Most unskilled jobs are going away, within the next two or three decades, for good. To get and keep a stable job somebody is going to have to command their area, their niche and the niche they command will likely need to be much closer to unique than today.

Almost nobody "gets" this unless they work (or have worked in the past) on a day to day basis with cutting edge technology or close to it. People who do, don't need to be told that technology is improving at an exponentially increasing rate, they live it.

The GATS, in particular, with its Mode Four can be thought of a huge global trade of jobs for markets - a cynical global poker game with peoples lives. With its goal being perserving the concentration of wealth at the top by means of deception and a divide and conquer strategy.

To understand it, one needs to understand that 20 years ago trade negotiators thought that the developing countries would see 20 or 30 years of rapid, even meteoric growth. Due to their lower penetration of automation, rapid increases in spending power, people buying the necessities of modern life for the first time, and mobile capital investing there to take advantage of the growth.

But I think they are realizing now that the period of growth will be much shorter and less robust. And the impact on our own country of trading all those jobs away will be potentially devastating. Economic implosion.

Thats why endorsing the wife of the man who signed us into that horrible deal is a mistake.

k&r excellent post nationalize the fed Apr 2016 #1
read this Baobab Apr 2016 #45
Who'll stop the rain? highprincipleswork Apr 2016 #2
Excellent post. HeartoftheMidwest Apr 2016 #3
By midcentury i expect almost full unemployment Baobab Apr 2016 #46
Add to that the probable damage from corporate friendly trade deals.... HeartoftheMidwest Apr 2016 #50
There you go.. ReRe Apr 2016 #4
Will anyone in our corrupt government stand up TheFarseer Apr 2016 #5
Not as long as we keep voting for those corrupt politicians. Cassiopeia Apr 2016 #35
How could Hillary fight her husband's trade agreement when it made him so popular around the world Baobab Apr 2016 #47
She won't even try. Cassiopeia Apr 2016 #48
I am confused. You support Hillary and those that came for our shit. nm rhett o rick Apr 2016 #6
You aren't reading it closely enough Fresh_Start Apr 2016 #13
Actually there are a few who are trying.... Silver_Witch Apr 2016 #25
That stuff has less to do with neoliberalism than many other things do. Baobab Apr 2016 #60
I am happy to read your links Baobab... Silver_Witch Apr 2016 #64
Love your post Carolina Apr 2016 #62
Hugs Carolina!!! Silver_Witch Apr 2016 #63
the manufacturing jobs are coming back but they are going to be automated Baobab Apr 2016 #65
Neo-liberal "let the markets decide" PowerToThePeople Apr 2016 #29
Its a losing battle. most unskilled jobs will be gone in 15-20 years Baobab Apr 2016 #49
IT and Programming are Unskilled Jobs? FreakinDJ Apr 2016 #52
Its my understanding that by definition, the various programs that use L-1 visa holders are supposed Baobab Apr 2016 #59
Bless your heart. Of course you're confused. LanternWaste Apr 2016 #34
I protest on a much smaller scale trc Apr 2016 #7
I won't use self-checkouts either - LiberalElite Apr 2016 #8
Google just opened a new campus in India and was not allowed to buy a lawn mower Recursion Apr 2016 #17
and your point is? nt LiberalElite Apr 2016 #18
That trying to preserve jobs that have been made obsolete by technology is a losing game (nt) Recursion Apr 2016 #19
I will continue to fight that "losing game" nt LiberalElite Apr 2016 #20
Huge difference. laundry_queen Apr 2016 #27
NEVER use the self checkouts! TexasMommaWithAHat Apr 2016 #40
I agree Urchin Apr 2016 #57
I do that also. I would rather stand in line for a clerk than jwirr Apr 2016 #10
And here I thought it was just me DVRacer Apr 2016 #11
Me too! I won't ever use those damn self service things. OrwellwasRight Apr 2016 #14
I have been complaining since day one Skittles Apr 2016 #9
Yet you support Hillary. Confusing. 840high Apr 2016 #12
I've been pro people before it was fashionable Fresh_Start Apr 2016 #16
If only she wanted to improve things eom LiberalElite Apr 2016 #21
I have no doubt she does want to improve things Fresh_Start Apr 2016 #22
Really, the candidate of It's too hard! We can't! LiberalElite Apr 2016 #23
Huge +1! Enthusiast Apr 2016 #32
+2 bahrbearian Apr 2016 #36
Trade agreements and cutting Social Security? No thanks n/t eridani Apr 2016 #30
They can inflate the money supply without you noticing, because of cheap imports Urchin Apr 2016 #15
The price of food has skyrocketed, too! TexasMommaWithAHat Apr 2016 #41
If they shrink product sizes any further they'll be miniature Doremus Apr 2016 #54
They didn't do anything Egnever Apr 2016 #24
Yes. It's been going on my whole adult life. rusty quoin Apr 2016 #26
Heard from my little brother today Bayard Apr 2016 #28
New. World. Order. Eat your peas. Enthusiast Apr 2016 #31
While the price of tchotchkes went down, necessities skyrocketed . . . HughBeaumont Apr 2016 #33
Interesting abelenkpe Apr 2016 #37
Its not actually in direct conflict Fresh_Start Apr 2016 #38
Well, thats what the trade deals do, they effectuate a massive redistribution of wealth away from th Baobab Apr 2016 #61
You want to help the world? Urchin Apr 2016 #55
Really depends on whose ox is being gored, heh? TexasMommaWithAHat Apr 2016 #39
I want to change how our government spends our tax money Fresh_Start Apr 2016 #42
UBI is the answer. forjusticethunders Apr 2016 #43
It would certainly help nt Fresh_Start Apr 2016 #44
You can have a impact on this issue! Soxfan58 Apr 2016 #51
~ FIRST THEY CAME FOR THE MFG. JOBS..NOTE TO COPY. appalachiablue Apr 2016 #53
I have been wanting to REc this for days. Now done. nt silvershadow Apr 2016 #56
The xenophobia is real with this one. joshcryer Apr 2016 #58
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