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Odd. I always thought prisons were places to put people when crime prevention failed Press Virginia Apr 2016 #1
So all these pot smokers in prison are a good thing in your opinion? Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Apr 2016 #2
The President seemed to have a hard time finding those poor guys when Press Virginia Apr 2016 #3
"Nobody is going to prison for smoking pot in this country." Wounded Bear Apr 2016 #4
I stand by my statement. Press Virginia Apr 2016 #5
Who the fuck cares if they failed a drug test? Why are we drug testing? Oh, that's right... silvershadow Apr 2016 #26
The parole board that granted conditional early release to the convicted felon Press Virginia Apr 2016 #27
Yeah, or yakno, a medical marijuana granny growing the plant in her basement instead of wanting to Warren DeMontague Apr 2016 #28
If you're trying to rebut what I said, you should actually address what I said Press Virginia Apr 2016 #36
So what, precisely, is your point? Warren DeMontague Apr 2016 #44
My point was that the claim made in the post I responded to Press Virginia Apr 2016 #45
there are like 60 million pot smokers in this country. Obviously putting them all in prison is Warren DeMontague Apr 2016 #47
Find one person who is in prison for smoking pot Press Virginia Apr 2016 #49
Again, what precisely are you trying to defend? Warren DeMontague Apr 2016 #50
I responded to a false claim Press Virginia Apr 2016 #51
Okay, so, 13 years for 2 joints in louisiana. Warren DeMontague Apr 2016 #52
thats not for smoking pot Press Virginia Apr 2016 #53
Arrested with 2.8 grams of marijuana. Is your point that he wasnt smoking it at the time? Warren DeMontague Apr 2016 #54
4th offense, adjudicated under the felony habitual offender law Press Virginia Apr 2016 #55
Why don't you spend 1/10th of that energy fixing the fucking system and law? Warren DeMontague Apr 2016 #56
He's facing the time because he continually violated the same law Press Virginia Apr 2016 #57
You said find one, there's one. You were wrong, simple as that. Warren DeMontague Apr 2016 #58
I said find one in jail for smoking pot Press Virginia Apr 2016 #69
zzzzzzzzz Warren DeMontague Apr 2016 #74
Did he make the choice to break the law over and over? Press Virginia Apr 2016 #76
So did you defend the Texas anti-sodomy statute that made it illegal for consenting adults of the Warren DeMontague Apr 2016 #78
Nope. But if I had been arrested under it, it wouldn't have been because Press Virginia Apr 2016 #86
Way to move the goal post. Separation Apr 2016 #72
No. He was arrested for possession. Press Virginia Apr 2016 #73
Beyond the significant moral considerations of putting a father in prison for 13 yrs for 2 joints Warren DeMontague Apr 2016 #82
Just as I'm sure you'd be pissed if a drunk driver got the same sentence Press Virginia Apr 2016 #87
I had a friend killed by a drunk driver, buddy. Warren DeMontague Apr 2016 #88
I'm not talking about vehicular homicide. I said drunk driving Press Virginia Apr 2016 #90
Getting behind the wheel inebriated endangers everyone else on the road. Warren DeMontague Apr 2016 #91
Smoking pot doesn't support an industry where people are routinely murdered? Press Virginia Apr 2016 #92
No, it doesn't. Warren DeMontague Apr 2016 #93
That family in Ohio must have been the first, huh? Press Virginia Apr 2016 #94
Having lost the previous argument- if you can call it that- you were trying to make Warren DeMontague May 2016 #95
Bahahahahaha! Like we put people in prison for cocaine snorting and alcohol drinking? Press Virginia May 2016 #96
Yes, we have people in prison for pot smoking, but cannabis prohibition is coming to an end. Warren DeMontague May 2016 #97
Sure we do. They're cell mates with guys who snorted a couple lines of Coke and Press Virginia May 2016 #98
I realize these transitions are tough for people who have built careers on incarcerating pot smokers Warren DeMontague May 2016 #99
Bahahahaha! but the cocaine snorters have to stay? What about the wine drinkers? Press Virginia May 2016 #100
Im sure the people on the drug war gravy train will find other careers that dont Warren DeMontague May 2016 #101
as soon as someone is convicted of smoking pot Press Virginia May 2016 #102
Us? Warren DeMontague May 2016 #103
Habitual Offender Felony Posession Press Virginia May 2016 #104
And again, apparently you think it is a good use of our taxpayer dollars Warren DeMontague May 2016 #105
People like him....well, let's take a look at his criminal history and see Press Virginia May 2016 #106
So he apparently dealt drugs.... in 1990. 26 years ago. Warren DeMontague May 2016 #107
He had a gun on him twice. That's how he got a Felon in Possession of a firearm Press Virginia May 2016 #108
You asked for someone in prison for marijuana- 2 joints, okay, but functionally equivalent to Warren DeMontague May 2016 #109
IOWs there is no one in prison for smoking pot and Press Virginia May 2016 #110
That tiny thing? Warren DeMontague May 2016 #111
My name references the WVU basketball team Press Virginia May 2016 #112
I thought either it meant you were with the local media Warren DeMontague May 2016 #115
Good gravy. SammyWinstonJack Apr 2016 #59
Facts are facts Press Virginia Apr 2016 #63
Yes and you seem unable to admit to being wrong when the facts are there for everyone to read. Rex Apr 2016 #64
Where was I wrong? I said no one is doing 13 years for misdemeanor possession Press Virginia Apr 2016 #67
What a waste of time right? Rex Apr 2016 #65
Who needs substance when the truth is on your side? Press Virginia Apr 2016 #68
The truth is, the drug war is a failure and the clock is ticking on pot prohibition Warren DeMontague Apr 2016 #80
Great. But he's in prison because he broke the law. He made a choice to Press Virginia Apr 2016 #84
Yep. Warren DeMontague Apr 2016 #89
Interesting that he missed the guy who just got 20 years for growing 17 plants in New Jersey Warren DeMontague Apr 2016 #29
The guy should have had a prior conviction and been a felon in possession of a gun Press Virginia Apr 2016 #35
The President can only pardon federal prisoners ohnoyoudidnt Apr 2016 #43
Yeah, but "no one goes to prison for smoking pot!" STOP PICKING ON THE DRUG WAR!!!!!! Warren DeMontague Apr 2016 #48
No one does. I didn't bring up pot smokers Press Virginia Apr 2016 #70
So the guy doing 13 years in Louisiana wasnt actually smoking it when arrested for the two joints. Warren DeMontague Apr 2016 #75
That's like saying Ted Bundy was executed for a traffic violation. Press Virginia Apr 2016 #77
Yeah, because pot smoking and serial killing are totally analogous. Warren DeMontague Apr 2016 #79
He wasn't charged with pot smoking. The pot smoking led to the possession charge. Press Virginia Apr 2016 #81
13 years for 2 joints. Warren DeMontague Apr 2016 #83
Habitual offender. He clearly didn't care to follow the law Press Virginia Apr 2016 #85
Americans are about seven times as criminal as Canadians Fumesucker Apr 2016 #6
The proper comparison would be crime rates not incarceration rates Press Virginia Apr 2016 #7
Why are Americans so much more criminal than Canadians? Fumesucker Apr 2016 #8
Inceration is based on criminal convictions and the crime committed not Press Virginia Apr 2016 #9
The cops in Canada are all incompetent and the place is overrun with criminals Fumesucker Apr 2016 #10
Or the Canadien crime rate is lower, with the types of crimes committed most often Press Virginia Apr 2016 #11
That's what I said initially and you disagreed Fumesucker Apr 2016 #12
No. You compared incarceration rates Press Virginia Apr 2016 #13
"Americans are about seven times as criminal as Canadians" Fumesucker Apr 2016 #14
A claim you made based on incarceration rates. Press Virginia Apr 2016 #16
Why are Americans so much more criminal than Canadians, eh? Fumesucker Apr 2016 #19
I must be missing your point Press Virginia Apr 2016 #21
Punishment is a useless solution to any problem. hunter Apr 2016 #15
Maybe we could just give them big hugs and wet, mushy kisses? Press Virginia Apr 2016 #17
I'm no sweetheart in the "real world." hunter Apr 2016 #18
what thugs are you referring to? Press Virginia Apr 2016 #20
I live in a violent gang-ridden city with a large homeless population and serious drug problems. hunter Apr 2016 #22
Prisons are the consequences for poor choices made by people Press Virginia Apr 2016 #23
Oh bother. "Don't make any poor choices, dear!" hunter Apr 2016 #24
Why not teach people to be accountable for their own decisions in life? Press Virginia Apr 2016 #25
A disproportionate number are in jail because the system isn't fair. hunter Apr 2016 #37
FBI crime statistics don't support your claim about black vs white crime Press Virginia Apr 2016 #38
I said "corrosive to the social fabric." There was a reason for that. hunter Apr 2016 #39
oh? So it's a conspiracy to make people think blacks commit crimes at higher rates Press Virginia Apr 2016 #40
Must be something about "personal responsibility." Yeah, that's the ticket. hunter Apr 2016 #41
oh no! I'm being mocked by someone whose beliefs aren't supported by facts Press Virginia Apr 2016 #42
Nice black and white world you live in. SammyWinstonJack Apr 2016 #61
Break the law or don't break the law Press Virginia Apr 2016 #62
Not at all, they are enjoying this small amount of attention. Rex Apr 2016 #66
Hahahahaha! Concern trolling? For correcting Press Virginia Apr 2016 #71
The drug warriors know their gravy train is not popular anymore, hence the whining about this stuff. Warren DeMontague Apr 2016 #30
That's a funny picture Victor_c3 Apr 2016 #31
to be fair, it probably doesn't require tip top physical prowess Warren DeMontague Apr 2016 #32
Your point is all too correct n/t Victor_c3 Apr 2016 #33
It's interesting seeing the arguments in the thread above Victor_c3 Apr 2016 #34
Americans have never wanted their prisons to be rahabilitative davidn3600 Apr 2016 #46
Obama is spot on GOPblows431 Apr 2016 #60
K&R Jeffersons Ghost May 2016 #113
This is a consistent story. Adrahil May 2016 #114
Yeah, a lot of things would make sense. Warren DeMontague May 2016 #116
We need to stop filling prisons with pot smokers. Warren DeMontague May 2016 #117
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