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Hydra

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8. It's worse than that, actually
Sun May 8, 2016, 10:32 AM
May 2016

They tortured people before this, but it was all hush-hush. This was the attempt to legalize and normalize the practice.

With half our party and the Dem President asking "What's the big deal?" I can't see how they did not partially succeed.

This is why edhopper May 2016 #1
No, no... R. Daneel Olivaw May 2016 #2
To misquote Patrick Henry: "Give me comfortable shoes, or give me death!" yourpaljoey May 2016 #3
Oh, what comfortable shoes slouches R. Daneel Olivaw May 2016 #6
heh . . . . .n/t annabanana May 2016 #11
Mere blue suede shoes are loosed upon the world yourpaljoey May 2016 #22
... R. Daneel Olivaw May 2016 #23
Tell me, what is the origin of your cool name yourpaljoey May 2016 #27
... R. Daneel Olivaw May 2016 #31
I should have recalled that yourpaljoey May 2016 #33
Mike was pretty cool. Though he couldn't walk through walls. Paulie May 2016 #46
ello ello... I must review my library... such awesome stuff to dive back into yourpaljoey May 2016 #49
But first here edhopper May 2016 #42
Yes, but it was in the wiki post. R. Daneel Olivaw May 2016 #43
Ever read With Folded Hands? Paulie May 2016 #47
I Robot is a classic among classics yourpaljoey May 2016 #48
Yep. I'm more of a Niven "known space" reader now. R. Daneel Olivaw May 2016 #50
You is robot... I believe you have all the time in (what's left of) the world yourpaljoey May 2016 #51
Huge +1! Enthusiast May 2016 #10
Obama let other killers who invaded Iraq/ Afghanistan "off the hook" too Jeffersons Ghost May 2016 #44
And they did it as an experiment to learn how to torture more effectively. Warren Stupidity May 2016 #4
So it doesn't matter if it was the right guy or the wrong guy. JustABozoOnThisBus May 2016 #5
The only way to clean up this planet is to send the war criminals malaise May 2016 #7
It's worse than that, actually Hydra May 2016 #8
Practice makes perfect! OnyxCollie May 2016 #9
Reminds us of Josef Mengele. Enthusiast May 2016 #12
The fact that nobody was charged democrank May 2016 #13
Actually, every time they did it it was wrong, whether they had the right guy or not. Iggo May 2016 #14
Torture, Execution, War: all demonstrations of power. You have power by demonstrating it HereSince1628 May 2016 #15
Course they did La Lioness Priyanka May 2016 #16
So disgusting. n/t prayin4rain May 2016 #17
Well, it should be said that there's no "right" person to waterboard Orrex May 2016 #18
83 times? Well according to our president, that's just 83 times a patriot! whereisjustice May 2016 #19
It's important not to be too sanctimonious Doctor_J May 2016 #20
Of course, the DOJ will indict the torturers, bring them to court, and punish them. Tierra_y_Libertad May 2016 #21
"Or...maybe not." seems to be the course that has been and will be chosen by this and xocet May 2016 #26
Yep. War crimes are just "mistakes" here. Tierra_y_Libertad May 2016 #30
re: "'We tortured some folks...' will be the extent of the required penance. " thesquanderer May 2016 #37
Great point! nt Logical May 2016 #29
This message was self-deleted by its author Warren DeMontague May 2016 #53
6,000 page Senate torture report and zero prosecutions. OnyxCollie May 2016 #24
Hey! If you can't trust Michael Hayden, who can you trust? RufusTFirefly May 2016 #25
Almost 3 times a day? Bayard May 2016 #28
THIS >> " still-unpunished crimes that officials like Dick Cheney, George Bush, and Donald Rumsfeld" L. Coyote May 2016 #32
K&R Solly Mack May 2016 #34
And yet no-one pays for this. polly7 May 2016 #35
"We tortured some folks." And no consequences. thesquanderer May 2016 #36
About "folks," OnyxCollie May 2016 #38
This. ^^^ CrispyQ May 2016 #41
When will there be accountablility for those actions? Shouldn't someone pay for those crimes? Rex May 2016 #39
Sadly this will be Obama legacy. We tortured some folks and dont give a crap. rhett o rick May 2016 #40
And the presumptive Democratic nominee went along with the unjustified war, tabasco May 2016 #45
Even if he had been what he was accused of being, that is STILL no excuse n/t eridani May 2016 #52
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