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This is the kind of problem that Medicare-for-all won't fix. Our health care costs pnwmom May 2016 #1
It SHOULD fix it elleng May 2016 #2
Thank you for this excellent post, my dear elleng... CaliforniaPeggy May 2016 #3
It's the best, Peg. elleng May 2016 #6
It's the program we thought ACA would use as a backup bigbrother05 May 2016 #90
Right. elleng May 2016 #105
I second that! Eleanors38 May 2016 #109
But that's not how Medicare works. Millions of seniors would object to changing the system, pnwmom May 2016 #5
The question of 'upheaval' is always with us; elleng May 2016 #8
But Medicare isn't getting very good rates because Congress refused to pass a law pnwmom May 2016 #10
Exactly. elleng May 2016 #12
I was talking to a 79 yr old full-time RV'er this morning ErikJ May 2016 #24
Good he's able to get them. elleng May 2016 #39
Yes he's got bronchitis and emphysema and has to be on ErikJ May 2016 #40
I'm currently paying 122 a mo for two asthma rescue inhalers passiveporcupine May 2016 #68
I was surprised at the new price of a prescription I hadn't needed for years. pnwmom May 2016 #70
I know, and I sympathize. passiveporcupine May 2016 #71
I need albuterol, too, alas. pnwmom May 2016 #73
price negotiating and the bill Craig234 May 2016 #38
Thanks for all the info. So it was even worse. pnwmom May 2016 #69
Yes, I knew this passiveporcupine May 2016 #74
The real reason why our health care is SO broken! - Must Read - You won't believe this! Baobab May 2016 #101
millions of seniors would object to service fees going down and a real prescription benefit? Warren Stupidity May 2016 #20
They would object to having their doctors retire and not being replaced. And most of these costs pnwmom May 2016 #31
lets unpack that derp, 'kay? Warren Stupidity May 2016 #45
There is a large group of doctors near retirement age right now. And if the government suddenly pnwmom May 2016 #46
So many assumptions. So little data. nt Gore1FL May 2016 #49
There actually is data. pnwmom May 2016 #52
I believe the apostrophe is ruining the link. cui bono May 2016 #88
If a phsycian can choose to retire early, maybe that physican is overpaid? hedgehog May 2016 #107
Maybe from our perspective but not from theirs. n/t pnwmom May 2016 #108
Single-payer/Medicare for all is useless... Bigmack May 2016 #51
That dud of a fighter jet for $2.3 trillion? (Yes, trillion) Lydia Leftcoast May 2016 #54
You said it: the AMA would scream Recursion May 2016 #78
Which raises, for me, the central question of the health care issue: malthaussen May 2016 #91
What about Nurse Pactitioners and Physician Assistants trudyco May 2016 #95
You do realize that Medicare does not pay what most docs and hospitals charge, right? passiveporcupine May 2016 #67
Single payer has to be free to the end user, (otherwise you would have to create a tiered system to Baobab May 2016 #100
There is no free lunch StarzGuy May 2016 #63
Right, there is no free lunch. elleng May 2016 #64
Sure, but look at Medicare Part D: no negotiations Recursion May 2016 #75
Medicare, as presently set up, is NOT the answer; elleng May 2016 #77
Under Bernie's plan for Medicare for all passiveporcupine May 2016 #79
Actually, Medicare can't negotiate prices -- but companies that provide Part D coverage, can and do. Hoyt May 2016 #80
exactly. Fast Walker 52 May 2016 #89
Doesn't Medicare set maximum allowable charges for specific services? MH1 May 2016 #4
It would be a good start. Warren Stupidity May 2016 #21
And doctors hate it. They can rip private insurers off, not Medicare. YOHABLO May 2016 #25
OTOH they can lobby Congress and not Aetna Recursion May 2016 #76
Many private insurers pay less than Medicare. Most others allow Medicare + say 10 or 25%. Hoyt May 2016 #81
Yes, for part-a and part-b services. Part d for drugs, no maximum. JustABozoOnThisBus May 2016 #97
Works well for the rest of the modern world. We must get private insurers rhett o rick May 2016 #13
In many countries, doctors are state employees. The difficulty here is persuading doctors pnwmom May 2016 #15
bullshit. The UK is an outlier. Warren Stupidity May 2016 #18
Yes In England but I don't believe that's true in Canada, France, and Germany. nm rhett o rick May 2016 #19
... Gore1FL May 2016 #50
Doctors that give a damn about their patients are for single payer - ReasonableToo May 2016 #53
That simply is not true. coyote May 2016 #85
It is exactly the sort of crapfest that a single payer system can fix. Warren Stupidity May 2016 #17
That's another misleading statement Android3.14 May 2016 #30
We have to bow out of the trade deals we are pushing to tie our own hands. Baobab May 2016 #102
"gap in her health insurance" Motown_Johnny May 2016 #35
Bullshit. Cassiopeia May 2016 #93
yes it would fix it, and the INSURANCE INDUSTRY creates that waste BY WASTING TONS OF TIME Baobab May 2016 #99
Of course it would fix it arikara May 2016 #104
we've become a nation of gangsters Fairgo May 2016 #7
Everybody is somebody else's ATM Tsiyu May 2016 #9
What is telling for me... Fairgo May 2016 #11
Most modern countries realize this Tsiyu May 2016 #14
+5 appalachiablue May 2016 #28
Ha! Tsiyu May 2016 #29
Fairgo above, 'We've Become A Nation of Gangsters', plus yours appalachiablue May 2016 #32
This could be our big break! Tsiyu May 2016 #48
I thought about it. Go for a Reality Show, only way to do it right. We gotta Think Big. appalachiablue May 2016 #62
On the reality show I was half way teasing, Cafe Press stuff is great! :) appalachiablue May 2016 #106
I am working on a show with one of my kids Tsiyu May 2016 #110
I leave it all to creative commons Fairgo May 2016 #86
Good deal! appalachiablue May 2016 #98
+5 appalachiablue May 2016 #27
Gangster: "Your money or your life!" Sounds about right... Califonz May 2016 #43
Henry Miller Fairgo May 2016 #87
Jack Benny: "I'm thinking!" n/t malthaussen May 2016 #92
Part of the problem is zalinda May 2016 #16
Thats the way to do it. It would take care of itself over time. Just put the option on the table. litlbilly May 2016 #23
Another part of problem is that corporations get better treatment than individual humans lostnfound May 2016 #42
"There will never, ever be single payer healthcare in the US" Doctor_J May 2016 #58
^^^ Ding ding ding ^^^ Duppers May 2016 #61
We have Universal Health Care SCantiGOP May 2016 #22
This is no longer true. zalinda May 2016 #65
medical industrial complex. pansypoo53219 May 2016 #26
+10 appalachiablue May 2016 #33
I went in for a broken collar bone, and came out with angstlessk May 2016 #34
Kicked and recommended! Enthusiast May 2016 #36
My husband and I go together Duval May 2016 #37
As long as the government allows Thespian2 May 2016 #41
I basically agree, but you'd never hear the end of it if the government refused to cover a drug Hoyt May 2016 #82
I moved to a socialist country... Thespian2 May 2016 #111
Half of 10K could still.. zentrum May 2016 #44
I recently had two separate discussions with conservatives who oppose Obamacare. I learned this Algernon Moncrieff May 2016 #47
The medical cartel... scscholar May 2016 #55
I read on du that Gingrichcare is an accomplishment that surpasses the cra and the VRA and Doctor_J May 2016 #56
Urgent care centers cover IV fluids and prescription pain killers IronLionZion May 2016 #57
So you agree that healthcare should be like buying a used car. Doctor_J May 2016 #59
When did you stop beating your wife? IronLionZion May 2016 #60
Last time I went to ER the bill was $850 WITH insurance. Triana May 2016 #66
This thread is very confusing. King_Klonopin May 2016 #72
My husband had an emergency root canal while we were biking in the Netherlands eridani May 2016 #83
ACA is the stop gap for Single payer. marble falls May 2016 #84
What the Rs refuse to acknowledge... freebrew May 2016 #94
We should have the Federal Insurance Plan trudyco May 2016 #96
In this particular case Gman May 2016 #103
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