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In reply to the discussion: Surprise! I found even more facts about Libya under Gaddafi that you probably did not know about ! [View all]PufPuf23
(9,099 posts)The thread was about the intervention and the damage caused by the intervention to the common people and nation of Libya.
The Libya (and Gadaffi to a lesser extent) post 2001 was a modernizing nation.
I never praised Gadaffi nor claimed Libya under Gadaffi was paradise on Earth.
Western nations provided arms and covert support to radical Islamic rebels and destabilized Libya.
We established a "no fly zone" for "humanitarian" reasons and bombed the hell out of Libya including civilian infrastructure, the bombing was way beyond "humanitarian" and was obviously to dispose of Gadaffi for regime change.
Good Democrats and long term DUers added much good background to that OP thread if one takes the time to read.
From the State Department website:
Speaking of the breadth of Gaddafis record, that ought to resist simplistic, revisionist reduction, some might care to note that even now, the U.S. State Departments webpage on Libya still points to a Library of Congress Country Study on Libya that features some of the Gaddafi governments many social welfare achievements over the years in the areas of medical care, public housing, and education. In addition, Libyans have the highest literacy rate in Africa (see UNDP, p. 171) and Libya is the only continental African nation to rank high in the UNDPs Human Development Index. Even the BBC recognized these achievements:
Women in Libya are free to work and to dress as they like, subject to family constraints. Life expectancy is in the seventies. And per capita incomewhile not as high as could be expected given Libyas oil wealth and relatively small population of 6.5mis estimated at $12,000 (£9,000), according to the World Bank. Illiteracy has been almost wiped out, as has homelessnessa chronic problem in the pre-Gaddafi era, where corrugated iron shacks dotted many urban centres around the country.
I had deliberately avoided mentioning Hillary Clinton's role in Libya previously in that thread.
So here is another interesting link: http://www.foreignpolicyjournal.com/2016/01/06/new-hillary-emails-reveal-true-motive-for-libya-intervention/
The New Years Eve release of over 3,000 new Hillary Clinton emails from the State Department has CNN abuzz over gossipy text messages, the who gets to ride with Hillary selection process set up by her staff, and how a cute Hillary photo fared on Facebook.
But historians of the 2011 NATO war in Libya will be sure to notice a few of the truly explosive confirmations contained in the new emails: admissions of rebel war crimes, special ops trainers inside Libya from nearly the start of protests, Al Qaeda embedded in the U.S. backed opposition, Western nations jockeying for access to Libyan oil, the nefarious origins of the absurd Viagra mass rape claim, and concern over Gaddafis gold and silver reserves threatening European currency