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Arent All people are entitled to due process ? Ohioblue22 May 2016 #1
Nope. 100% constitutional, too. MohRokTah May 2016 #3
Where have I heard that one before? Oh, yeah....GW Bush and company AgingAmerican May 2016 #44
those idiots were right on some things Demonaut May 2016 #62
Like invading Iraq? Octafish May 2016 #80
increasing the funds to combat aids in africa, , closing the prince sultan airbase in Saudi Arabia Demonaut May 2016 #83
Obviously. Octafish May 2016 #84
you asked Demonaut May 2016 #85
George W Bush may be your idea of a great American, Demonaut... Octafish May 2016 #87
lol, I never said he's a great american, I hate the fuck but I also hold no regard Demonaut May 2016 #89
This is an argument? Octafish May 2016 #92
true, I win, thanks for conceding Demonaut May 2016 #94
BTW, Obama does not order CIA drone attacks or micromanage intelligence operations like Bush and Xi Jeffersons Ghost May 2016 #118
He closed the prince sultan airbase because it was named in Bin Ladens 1998 fatwa AgingAmerican May 2016 #96
true Demonaut May 2016 #97
I hope you're not going to get all legalistic about declared wars gratuitous May 2016 #95
No. People arrested for crimes are. Enemies on a battlefield not so much. arely staircase May 2016 #4
The US Constitution applies to everyone inside the territorial boundaries of the United States. cheapdate May 2016 #32
Inalienable means ends at the borders... scscholar May 2016 #58
The US Constitution and over 200 years of jurisprudence says, 'yes'. cheapdate May 2016 #61
Soldiers on a battlefield. NutmegYankee May 2016 #65
He was given due process. What that process was, however, was a drone strike. Nt msanthrope May 2016 #73
No. People actively in arms in a combat zone are usually just killed. Same with pirates. Recursion May 2016 #117
BINGO! MohRokTah May 2016 #2
When did Pakistan become a war zone? rug May 2016 #5
The tribal/boarder region? As far back as anyone can remember arely staircase May 2016 #6
I remember. There is a border and Pakistan is a US ally. The drone landed inside a ally's territory. rug May 2016 #8
The US drone strikes are not against our ally (such as they are) arely staircase May 2016 #16
Then you're fine with it. tazkcmo May 2016 #27
You have a problem with the UN designating this guy a terrorist and sanctioning him? msanthrope May 2016 #74
If Missouri and Kansas were lawless hotbeds of terrorism against the United States arely staircase May 2016 #86
We have a bunch of US politicians responsible for the World's worst crime this century, cpwm17 May 2016 #93
Well I suppose they could try. But since they can't you really have no point. nt arely staircase May 2016 #98
That legalism will apply once Pakistan has effective control over its NW tribal areas Albertoo May 2016 #30
National sovereignty is not a "legalism". rug May 2016 #38
Pakistan does not have national sovereignty over its NW provinces Albertoo May 2016 #51
Who's "It"? rug May 2016 #53
There is no sovereignty without control Albertoo May 2016 #55
Tell that to Jefferson Davis. rug May 2016 #64
Are you comparing the Pakistani NW territories to the Confederate States? Albertoo May 2016 #66
Those that think an insurrection negates sovereignty likely think the CSA was legit. rug May 2016 #67
You are blurring the issues and misrepresenting what I said Albertoo May 2016 #68
I'm stating precisely when you implied. rug May 2016 #69
Exactly not. You are misrepresenting on purpose what I wrote => end of dicussion Albertoo May 2016 #70
Misrepresent you? I quoted you. rug May 2016 #72
No, Jefferson Davis was not a quote. Not even an interesting parallel. Albertoo May 2016 #75
The person in question was designated a terrorist and sanctioned by the UN in 2001. Apparently, he msanthrope May 2016 #76
How dare you bring up legalities when the people are celebrating guillaumeb May 2016 #120
September 11, 2001. eom MohRokTah May 2016 #7
Did you forget a noun and a verb? rug May 2016 #10
Did you forget that an attack on the United States was masterminded from MohRokTah May 2016 #12
Did you forget more than 26,000 Afghan civilians have been killed and nearly 30,000 wounded? rug May 2016 #14
That's a reality of war. MohRokTah May 2016 #15
"I will not be discouraged from supporting a just war over collateral damage." rug May 2016 #17
I disagree completely withyour assessment. MohRokTah May 2016 #22
Uber Alles. rug May 2016 #23
You invoke September 11th... CompanyFirstSergeant May 2016 #26
You can find a recruiter easily. tazkcmo May 2016 #28
"You can find a recruiter..." CompanyFirstSergeant May 2016 #33
No problem. tazkcmo May 2016 #39
I already served decades ago. MohRokTah May 2016 #43
Good luck with your new career arresting the Taliban. arely staircase May 2016 #130
Some people want to prove their selflessness by placing other nations first Albertoo May 2016 #31
And others tazkcmo May 2016 #37
Do you not count self defense among useful principles? Albertoo May 2016 #54
So the attack on Afghanistan by Bush was just to you? AgingAmerican May 2016 #47
To the extent Saudis were involved, they ran it (from the Berlin cell to the choice of targets arely staircase May 2016 #126
+1 rjsquirrel May 2016 #34
I know exactly how to do that.... CompanyFirstSergeant May 2016 #35
So self righteous rjsquirrel May 2016 #36
Good on your brother. tazkcmo May 2016 #41
I don't usually believe people who play soldier online rjsquirrel May 2016 #42
I don't care what you think tazkcmo May 2016 #45
Good for you "soldier" rjsquirrel May 2016 #48
You sound like Rudy Gulliani AgingAmerican May 2016 #46
So, that is the standard of proof for an execution now? Kelvin Mace May 2016 #9
Innocent people in the area? Separation May 2016 #113
And the tall Arab recycler and all his buddies are still dead . . . Journeyman May 2016 #11
Now you got me all curious, how do you surrender to a drone? Rex May 2016 #13
How do you surrender to an incoming missile? Or Fat Boy? nt ChisolmTrailDem May 2016 #18
Somehow I don't think putting your hands up to surrender will work. nt Rex May 2016 #19
I don't know. Contact the US government and offer your surrender. NT arely staircase May 2016 #24
Same way you surrender to a firing squad. Kaleva May 2016 #52
So are you volunteering to be the next drone hit? n/t Hydra May 2016 #20
Good work, Droney! tabasco May 2016 #21
The United States is in a state of *permanent* war against the whole world. Old Union Guy May 2016 #25
Democrats always have been. tazkcmo May 2016 #29
With a Trump et all this close to the WH felix_numinous May 2016 #40
Wow I thought this was a rehash of when potus droned the son of the American Ohioblue22 May 2016 #49
Well, when you make the 1267 list.....unfortunately Anwar's son was with a member of that list, msanthrope May 2016 #78
Jesus, you have no clue what you are talking about. DesMoinesDem May 2016 #90
Options: Let a terrorist organization leader kill more people or stop him. Solution to some? The Straight Story May 2016 #50
Yep TeddyR May 2016 #56
Don't forget that Uncle Sam is still at war The_Casual_Observer May 2016 #57
Bush said it won't end in our lifetime, and Obama is helping assure that n/t arcane1 May 2016 #102
I guess that's about the only thing that bush The_Casual_Observer May 2016 #103
Thanks for reminding me that I live in a country full of belligerent couch potatoes who love bjo59 May 2016 #59
Drone hits are the best hits GOLGO 13 May 2016 #60
Surrender? What was he charged with? DesMoinesDem May 2016 #63
The UN charged him in 2001 with sanctions for his Taliban activities. Apparently, he didn't learn. msanthrope May 2016 #71
"Charged with sanctions" DesMoinesDem May 2016 #88
war is hell.. beachbum bob May 2016 #77
Murder by the State is still murder. Octafish May 2016 #79
Innocent? The UN made a mistake with the 1267 designation? Nt msanthrope May 2016 #81
Is that the UN we have to bug? Octafish May 2016 #82
Does 1267 allow for extrajudicial executions and 'collateral damage'? ronnie624 May 2016 #91
Short this guy surrendering and being put on trial arely staircase May 2016 #99
Short of any suspect surrendering, how would due process be administered? ronnie624 May 2016 #105
Well the person in question was much more than a "suspect" arely staircase May 2016 #108
He was someone accused of a crime. ronnie624 May 2016 #110
His status as an accused criminal does not erase his status as an enemy soldier arely staircase May 2016 #112
The GWOT is a pretext. ronnie624 May 2016 #115
The US is at war with a loose collection of jihadis who operate in various countries. arely staircase May 2016 #123
Here is what I dont get. Separation May 2016 #116
The planet is better off when people like this are removed from society. frankieallen May 2016 #100
"People like this" is easily redefined. /nt Marr May 2016 #107
You are a right wing extremist ignorant fuck. Voting for Trump I presume. nt GoneFishin May 2016 #101
What about 16 year old Abdel Rahman al-Awlaki? guillaumeb May 2016 #104
Victim of really bad parenting. nt arely staircase May 2016 #109
Would ou be as callous and ignorant if it was your son? guillaumeb May 2016 #119
I wouldn't take my kids to a terrorist camp or meeting. arely staircase May 2016 #122
al-Awlaki's 16 year old son was in Yemen when he was killed. guillaumeb May 2016 #124
No we are not at war with Yemen. We did unburden Yemen of the unwanted arely staircase May 2016 #125
And if Yemen had "unburdened" the US of Dick Cheney and George Bush guillaumeb May 2016 #127
When they do I will voice my opinion. Until then I will stick to reality. NT arely staircase May 2016 #128
Disgusting. The tent is too damned big if it's got room for fascist, sycophantic shit like this. Marr May 2016 #106
The big part of the tent stretches only on the right. TheKentuckian May 2016 #111
Agreed. But the lynch mob is not ready to listen because guillaumeb May 2016 #121
Yeah He got the head of the Taliaban...good for Obama Demsrule86 May 2016 #114
If Mr. Obama does it, no matter what "it" may be we should support him. ileus May 2016 #129
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