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25 couples stabbed to death at once...? nt ScreamingMeemie Jun 2016 #1
Rwanda: 5 million stabbed jack_krass Jun 2016 #35
At once? By one person? nt ScreamingMeemie Jun 2016 #41
He doesn't even have the right number JustAnotherGen Jun 2016 #75
Nope about 750 K and they weren't stabbed JustAnotherGen Jun 2016 #73
Most of course were killed by well-armed men. JackRiddler Jun 2016 #150
+1 treestar Jun 2016 #93
Two with a knife vs 49 with a gun angstlessk Jun 2016 #2
Bingo! Night Watchman Jun 2016 #139
That's about 47 less than in the nightclub MattP Jun 2016 #3
Actually, that 50 figure are just those killed, practically double that to account for the injured. TheBlackAdder Jun 2016 #81
Many still in critical condition. n/t Aerows Jun 2016 #145
While sad and terrible it was two people and not 49 or 26 or whatever. JanMichael Jun 2016 #4
This message was self-deleted by its author rjsquirrel Jun 2016 #5
See post #7: 150 dead with gun control Albertoo Jun 2016 #8
Bollocks rjsquirrel Jun 2016 #13
Get ready to wade through pro-Clinton horseshit Aerows Jun 2016 #129
horseshit is right 840high Jun 2016 #136
But we do take simple precautions where we can. Zynx Jun 2016 #6
Not really: the bad guys will always get weapons Albertoo Jun 2016 #10
We don't have to make it so easy for them. Zynx Jun 2016 #14
Gun control = higher percentage of ownership by the bad guys Albertoo Jun 2016 #16
Lets remove stop signs also. elehhhhna Jun 2016 #39
A very good parallel to what I'm saying Albertoo Jun 2016 #43
and yet France still has less murders then we do here booley Jun 2016 #101
The OP's point is that gun control is not the solution to islamic terrorism Albertoo Jun 2016 #109
To answers #1 to #4, about 150 dead at Paris Bataclan in November Albertoo Jun 2016 #7
It's not a total cure, no, but it does make it harder. Zynx Jun 2016 #15
I feel the reverse: gun control enables the baddies Albertoo Jun 2016 #17
Didn't seem to slow down Mr. Mateen gratuitous Jun 2016 #23
Maybe because dancing while carrying a weapon is impractical? Albertoo Jun 2016 #24
A certain amount of weapons? gratuitous Jun 2016 #27
Am I suggesting it's a magic wand? Albertoo Jun 2016 #28
Pretty much, yeah gratuitous Jun 2016 #33
Let me rephrase more 'coherently' Albertoo Jun 2016 #37
Please find some internal consistency in your "argument" mythology Jun 2016 #53
Easier to find than in yours Albertoo Jun 2016 #56
And yet, Paris will end the year with fewer gun deaths than comparably sized US cities jberryhill Jun 2016 #40
Binary thinking.... TipTok Jun 2016 #77
Nirvana fallacy RAFisher Jun 2016 #26
+1 n/t TubbersUK Jun 2016 #74
to mass shootings, it might be treestar Jun 2016 #94
Your point is to defend guns, we get it. nt Logical Jun 2016 #114
He mowed down 102 people with a knife and half died? Dem2 Jun 2016 #9
+1 n/t IL Lib Jun 2016 #67
Should just call it "the problem of Religious terrorism." All the same. The NRA is a hate group. eom fleabiscuit Jun 2016 #11
No one said it would solve the problem... tallahasseedem Jun 2016 #12
See #17: gun ownership will help reduce casualties Albertoo Jun 2016 #19
Do you have an evidence for this dubious assertion? alarimer Jun 2016 #86
Yo gunner, two versus fifty. Try logic 101. HERVEPA Jun 2016 #18
See post #7: I just want to make San Bernardino or Orlando difficult for religious loons. Albertoo Jun 2016 #21
The common point A Little Weird Jun 2016 #42
See one common point in post #37: radical Islam, not access to weapons Albertoo Jun 2016 #45
The common point in this country A Little Weird Jun 2016 #46
9/11 included? Albertoo Jun 2016 #48
I'm glad you brought up 9/11 A Little Weird Jun 2016 #49
Planes and AR15s are two massively different kind of objects (pun intended) Albertoo Jun 2016 #51
How would it be easier for a terrorist to carry out a mass shooting A Little Weird Jun 2016 #62
Maybe we could all go back to horse drawn carriages... TipTok Jun 2016 #82
Do we regulate automobiles? A Little Weird Jun 2016 #84
And how many people are driving without a license or a suspended license? 1939 Jun 2016 #90
Magic markering out registration dates is not a problem I've ever heard of. :) A Little Weird Jun 2016 #97
Setting aside that there are already significant regulations in place across the US.. TipTok Jun 2016 #92
You're the one who brought cars into the conversation A Little Weird Jun 2016 #98
+10 n/t whathehell Jun 2016 #102
It also won't solve homelessness, or animal abuse. uppityperson Jun 2016 #20
So you know Islam's homophobia did not inform the shooter's attitude? Albertoo Jun 2016 #22
There is a difference between someone being of a religion and doing something awful, and uppityperson Jun 2016 #25
But when the religion itself is openly and stridently homophobic? Albertoo Jun 2016 #31
get rid of drunk driving laws because people still drink and drive and get others killed JI7 Jun 2016 #29
There is no religion calling for people to get drunk in order to kill Albertoo Jun 2016 #34
Exactly Dem2 Jun 2016 #85
The NRA and ISIS share this in common - without guns, they'd both just be a bunch of hateful morons. leveymg Jun 2016 #30
The difference is that radical Islam doesn't care about secular laws Albertoo Jun 2016 #32
Depends upon how you define terrorism. leveymg Jun 2016 #68
I see math is not your strong suit. CBGLuthier Jun 2016 #36
Except that it was my major, but OK Albertoo Jun 2016 #38
Maybe you should ask for your money back. nt laundry_queen Jun 2016 #111
No, I'm doing fine, thanks. Albertoo Jun 2016 #116
So if perfection isn't achieved, then you don't want to do a damn thing. HuckleB Jun 2016 #124
Reality shows terrorists always manage to get weapons Albertoo Jun 2016 #125
We're talking about much more than "terrorists." HuckleB Jun 2016 #131
Then why did they do a pathetic knife attack Crunchy Frog Jun 2016 #133
LOL laundry_queen Jun 2016 #132
LOL gun control works well in France and Canada? Albertoo Jun 2016 #146
LOL that you think more guns = more protection for soft targets laundry_queen Jun 2016 #152
LOL yes Albertoo Jun 2016 #156
Nope, it's all yours. As all here can see. nt laundry_queen Jun 2016 #162
You're the derp expert. Apparently. Albertoo Jun 2016 #163
Yep I am, and I say you own the derp in this thread. laundry_queen Jun 2016 #164
Toodles. Good luck with this 'derp' you seem do fond of. Albertoo Jun 2016 #165
And we can talk about terrorism, but it won't solve the problem of absurd levels of gun violence. n greyl Jun 2016 #44
True, but that other issue should also include national security and democracy Albertoo Jun 2016 #47
Your scenarios are far-fetched, and greyl Jun 2016 #50
Assault rifles are relevant to the two points I made (irrespective of islamic terrorism) Albertoo Jun 2016 #54
Breaking: "Two" is a different number than "forty-nine!" villager Jun 2016 #52
And, as I already posted, 150 is higher than 49 (Bataclan in Paris) Albertoo Jun 2016 #57
You are really looking silly. Nt Logical Jun 2016 #58
Ah, so can do the maths when higher body count gun deaths are involved! villager Jun 2016 #63
Knife-wielding attackers kill 29, injure 130 at China train station BlueNoMatterWho Jun 2016 #55
Did you even read the fucking story. 10 people with knifes!! How clueless..... Logical Jun 2016 #61
Plus 13 injuries per knife. BlueNoMatterWho Jun 2016 #64
Really stupid comparasion! Nt Logical Jun 2016 #87
If we're comparing weapons, guns beat knives in kills per minute alc Jun 2016 #59
The common element appears to be islamic state MariaThinks Jun 2016 #60
So there has to be a point to your OP G_j Jun 2016 #65
That one been showing their true colors as of late. Rex Jun 2016 #70
Massacre at Chinese coal mine: Knife-wielding separatists blamed for attack that killed at least 50. BlueNoMatterWho Jun 2016 #66
lulz Rex Jun 2016 #69
Reading posts on DU makes me almost lose hope in humanity. Crunchy Frog Jun 2016 #71
I know n/t TubbersUK Jun 2016 #76
Born in France JustAnotherGen Jun 2016 #72
dont cops in other countries MFM008 Jun 2016 #78
I'd rejoice that it was just me and hubby, not my kids, that were killed. Ilsa Jun 2016 #79
There's a reason for the expression, " He took a knife to a gunfight." nt Ilsa Jun 2016 #80
BREAKING: US ARMY DISCONTINUES USE OF FIREARMS, ISSUES KNIVES TO SOLDIERS INSTEAD Orrex Jun 2016 #83
Nicely put. Paladin Jun 2016 #89
+1 treestar Jun 2016 #95
Two versus 49 n/t malaise Jun 2016 #88
Wow, a living, breathing apologist. Darb Jun 2016 #91
Can't we PLEASE do something so we can get back to being killed by 'normal' spree shooters?!?! ck4829 Jun 2016 #96
And what of Jo Cox who was assassinated by Thomas Mair? ck4829 Jun 2016 #99
why are ou assuming ISIS is the only source for terrorism or mass killings booley Jun 2016 #100
Islamism is currently the only form of worldwide terrorism Albertoo Jun 2016 #107
I'll be fascinated to see how you plan to do that. Crunchy Frog Jun 2016 #134
If that objective was clear, many mistakes would be avoided (like invading Iraq) Albertoo Jun 2016 #144
obsessed much?? KT2000 Jun 2016 #103
In 1932, talking frequently about Hitler would have been obsession? Albertoo Jun 2016 #113
Yes, obsessed. KT2000 Jun 2016 #123
It was a Sig Sauer in Orlando Albertoo Jun 2016 #126
who gives a shit KT2000 Jun 2016 #135
I was just answering your point Albertoo Jun 2016 #143
What happened in Orlando was primarily a homophobic hate crime, pnwmom Jun 2016 #104
LOL: so you 'know' Islam's virulent homophobia did not contribute to the shooter's homophobia? Albertoo Jun 2016 #106
I know, as I said, that he espoused conflicting beliefs, supporting pnwmom Jun 2016 #108
The islamic texts are violently homophobic Albertoo Jun 2016 #110
He's living in a society where there is so much homophobia that I don't pnwmom Jun 2016 #118
And where do you think the homophobia of islamic societies come from? Albertoo Jun 2016 #120
What I'm saying is that he didn't go on his rampage out of loyalty to ISIS. pnwmom Jun 2016 #122
Right. So you know Islam did not inform his homophobia Albertoo Jun 2016 #127
No, I'm not saying that. I think it was one of the things that did "inform" his pnwmom Jun 2016 #138
Homophobic religions produce homophobes Albertoo Jun 2016 #142
And so do homophobic cultures, and there is plenty of that in Florida pnwmom Jun 2016 #148
There is something called numbers Albertoo Jun 2016 #149
You can't say Islamic terrorism... ileus Jun 2016 #105
I can. 840high Jun 2016 #137
LOL, ok, you are clueless. You really want me in a room with a knife or a AR-15 and start killing? Logical Jun 2016 #112
Off topic: islamists get both irrespective of local legislations, and that's the point Albertoo Jun 2016 #117
Derp. Derp. Derp. HuckleB Jun 2016 #115
So there's no terrorism and all is well, right? Albertoo Jun 2016 #119
And more derp. HuckleB Jun 2016 #121
Well, you look like the expert on derp Albertoo Jun 2016 #128
You keep posting it, so you might be the expert. HuckleB Jun 2016 #130
derp Albertoo Jun 2016 #147
When a terrists can kill & injure 100 people with a knife... leeroysphitz Jun 2016 #140
Save the Guns! Iggo Jun 2016 #141
Well, that was one of the stupidest statements I've ever seen on DU. CanonRay Jun 2016 #151
Yeah, but...but...well, you know. Bensonhurst_braciole Jun 2016 #153
Two deaths vs. 49 is the difference between being armed with a knife pnwmom Jun 2016 #154
Terrorists always manage to find assault weapons, regardless of gun laws Albertoo Jun 2016 #159
And burglars break into buildings. But you can keep many out by simply pnwmom Jun 2016 #160
Your parallel fails Albertoo Jun 2016 #161
Maybe we in the West can stop bombing their countries and malaise Jun 2016 #155
What has it got to do with the OP? Albertoo Jun 2016 #158
Post removed Post removed Jun 2016 #157
I see your slip. Darb Jun 2016 #166
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