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hack89

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47. UBCs have nothing to do with sales through dealers

Fri Jun 17, 2016, 09:08 PM

Jun 2016

And you know it. Private sales between private citizens are not covered by federal law except if the sale crosses state lines. And you know that

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Alarming fact about background checks. [View all] imanamerican63 Jun 2016 OP

Same to practice as a lawyer jberryhill Jun 2016 #1

Hell, I'm a nobody IT guy at a bank KatyMan Jun 2016 #3

Police also DustyJoe Jun 2016 #56

IT guy at a bank? Straw Man Jun 2016 #60

Cuz gun culture is "special" Dem2 Jun 2016 #2

There is a background check system in place hack89 Jun 2016 #4

I am good with it! imanamerican63 Jun 2016 #6

What is a background law? nt hack89 Jun 2016 #8

A law about the ground in your backyard? (wink, n/t) PJMcK Jun 2016 #26

Only for gun sales through FFL dealers - not private sales or transfers jpak Jun 2016 #16

I am fine with UBCs - my state requires them hack89 Jun 2016 #17

UBC should be federal - otherwise neighboring states could be source of illegitimate guns jpak Jun 2016 #19

Federal government has no power over intrastate commerce hack89 Jun 2016 #20

That is such bullshit jpak Jun 2016 #35

We are talking about private sales of personal property hack89 Jun 2016 #39

Bullshit called and you got nothin' jpak Jun 2016 #40

UBCs have nothing to do with sales through dealers hack89 Jun 2016 #47

You can stretch the commerce clause pretty far metalbot Jun 2016 #63

A federal UBC bill would fail hack89 Jun 2016 #64

It's not unenforceable in the long run metalbot Jun 2016 #66

That assumes people comply with the law hack89 Jun 2016 #67

Depends on your state. Straw Man Jun 2016 #58

Ultimately, because your right to drive a big rig... malthaussen Jun 2016 #5

I understand this, the crux of my thought.... imanamerican63 Jun 2016 #18

But the "general well being" is world wide wally Jun 2016 #24

Neither is anyone's right to buy an automatic rifle Beaverhausen Jun 2016 #49

Automatic rifles have been very heavily regulated Duckhunter935 Jun 2016 #52

But not semi-auto which are damn near as deadly and not that difficult to convert. Hoyt Jun 2016 #53

Not as if finds expedient treestar Jun 2016 #69

Who says expediency can't be rational? malthaussen Jun 2016 #71

I had to get a background check to be a substitute teacher kimbutgar Jun 2016 #7

Most likely you will need a background check. hack89 Jun 2016 #9

In some states you can outright buy a gun without a background check kimbutgar Jun 2016 #10

Yes.They are called private sales hack89 Jun 2016 #11

Just as you can teach a five year-old in a parking lot to read! scscholar Jun 2016 #12

Ignore hack's comments! imanamerican63 Jun 2016 #13

That is really fucked up! Yet you won't see gun humpers complaining Rex Jun 2016 #15

Got any facts to back that up? hack89 Jun 2016 #21

Here is one of several examples I found on the Internet for a tv station kimbutgar Jun 2016 #30

Not true. An occasional seller can set up a table, drape a confederate flag over it Hoyt Jun 2016 #54

Don't need a background check to be a tutor. Igel Jun 2016 #31

It depends ... Straw Man Jun 2016 #61

Well you see...gunz are special...they get to be treated like The Precious. Better not to ask. Rex Jun 2016 #14

Until you have a bad day and run over some children IronLionZion Jun 2016 #22

Because the NRA says so, buddy! world wide wally Jun 2016 #23

Look what you have to do to be a barber or cosmetologist in California! elljay Jun 2016 #25

What laws are the NRA not following? ileus Jun 2016 #27

What I should have said.... imanamerican63 Jun 2016 #28

22.000 Federal, State and Local gun laws and regulations so far DonP Jun 2016 #29

Very likely not effective and not consistent. Crunchy Frog Jun 2016 #48

Good, let us know which ones you're wiling to get rid of before we pass more ineffective laws. DonP Jun 2016 #50

Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2016 #32

I think you're trolling. maxsolomon Jun 2016 #36

The fewer guns, the better. HuckleB Jun 2016 #43

Should be suffecient....unfortunately, they often aren't. jmg257 Jun 2016 #46

i remember WELL REGULATED is in the 2nd amendment as well. WELL REGULATED. pansypoo53219 Jun 2016 #33

ah, i think you forget maxsolomon Jun 2016 #37

Almost 50% of the current Supreme Court doesn't see it your way. Hoyt Jun 2016 #55

i didn't add :sarcasm: maxsolomon Jun 2016 #72

That's true, but.... Adrahil Jun 2016 #65

The Orlando shooter passed two background checks. former9thward Jun 2016 #34

We haven't implemented background checks for guns that mean jack. HuckleB Jun 2016 #42

What are background checks "that mean jack"? former9thward Jun 2016 #44

Of course you have. HuckleB Jun 2016 #45

Not much. Straw Man Jun 2016 #59

I think people don't understand what the background check is. NutmegYankee Jun 2016 #62

Because of the 2nd Amendment Frank Cannon Jun 2016 #38

Tell it to a health care provider, hell, tell it to a day care provider. HuckleB Jun 2016 #41

Every sale of a new gun goes through a FFL and a federal background check. jtx Jun 2016 #51

Actually, Abq_Sarah Jun 2016 #57

hell, i had to get a background check to be a volunteer. mopinko Jun 2016 #68

There is no constitutional right to drive a semi truck. Odin2005 Jun 2016 #70