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Lancero

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25. Except it's, yet again, a demand problem.
Mon Jun 20, 2016, 01:13 AM
Jun 2016

We had these issues in the past before GMOs, and it was caused by what? Fertilizer runoff, from corn crops, causing extremely high levels of nitrogen in water.

It's not so much 'synthetic' fertilizer being the issue either - the technology behind those predate the Dead Zones by decades too. Nitrogen based fertilizers are created using the Haber-Bosch Process which was created in 1909, while phosphate based fertalizers use the Odda Process created in 1927. While synthetic fertilizers ARE used more then natural ones, switching over to natural/organic nitrogen/phosphate based fertalizers wouldn't help - We'd STILL be having high fertilizer runoff that would cause a nitrogen imbalance.

Attacking GMOs or synthetic fertilizers is a easy thing to do in this case, since it's a nice way to ignore the REAL cause of the issue here - Our ever growing demand for corn.

You get rid of GMO corn? This issue predated GMO's by 25 years. You've switched back to 'natural' corn seeds, and you're still having to grow just as much as before. You've done nothing to resolve the issue.

You get rid of synthetic fertilizers and switch to natural and organic ones? You're still going to be having fertilizer runoff that causes the nitrogen imbalance that causes these Dead Zones - The algae doesn't care if the Nitrogen is 'natural' or 'synthetic', it's going to be using it either way.

The only way this issue gets solved is if our demand for corn goes down. Less corn being grown = less fertilizers (Be they synthetic, natural, or organic) = less runoff.

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the truth G_j Jun 2016 #7
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Apparently, GMOs are to blame despite... Lancero Jun 2016 #18
Biotechnology became commercialized in the early 70s. Rex Jun 2016 #19
Medical yes. But the first agricultural GMOs weren't introduced until the 80's... Lancero Jun 2016 #20
GMOs didn't start the problem, but they have perpetuated it Scientific Jun 2016 #23
Except it's, yet again, a demand problem. Lancero Jun 2016 #25
The Killing Fields: Industrial Agriculture, 400 Dead Zones & GMO Corn Scientific Jun 2016 #24
is it gmos that have been accused of causing this onethatcares Jun 2016 #21
"Industrial scale meat production" the cause, you say? flvegan Jun 2016 #22
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