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In reply to the discussion: Article: I was fired from my internship for writing a proposal for a more flexible dress code [View all]Hortensis
(58,785 posts)159. Sounds like you may be blowing up the "abusive" part
to something that could be used as an excuse for just walking out. Somehow I doubt this father thought his son should stay and be genuinely seriously abused. But being able to fit calmly and properly into a hierarchical work environment is absolutely necessary for success for virtually anyone, no matter how privileged the upbringing.
In any case, there are right ways and wrong ways to do anything, and this father insisted leaving the job be done a right way--for his son's sake. We would absolutely have insisted on the same. We were far from perfect, but it's about trying to raise a child to be an honorable, responsible adult who can be proud of himself, as opposed just being around while it happens willy-nilly.
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Article: I was fired from my internship for writing a proposal for a more flexible dress code [View all]
Heeeeers Johnny
Jun 2016
OP
As an intern, you are there to learn about the job and industry, not change the company policy
tonyt53
Jun 2016
#2
I particularly love where the kid talks about how he/she "should have been told" why
Squinch
Jun 2016
#17
In the article it says that the other employee was a returning soldier who had lost her leg.
Squinch
Jun 2016
#23
The employee who was exempt was exempt because they were a returning soldier who had lost a leg.
Squinch
Jun 2016
#220
The part that said she had to start crippling herself to comply with a stupid footwear dress code
Warpy
Jun 2016
#189
The petition specified that they wanted to be able to wear "non-leather flats." That
Squinch
Jul 2016
#245
"I was able to get a summer internship at a company that does work in the industry..."
jberryhill
Jun 2016
#5
Too bad someone like you wasn't there to tell them this when the issue was first raised.
Yo_Mama
Jun 2016
#54
Well yeah, because there's a whole world out there. It would be a bummer if we peaked at 20.
Yo_Mama
Jun 2016
#58
It's difficult to see how a good manager would let this petty office drama go so far.
hunter
Jun 2016
#149
Not really. This kid thought he/she could dictate terms to the company when he/she didn't
Squinch
Jun 2016
#18
My first "real" job was working the stock room of a men's clothing store ...
1StrongBlackMan
Jun 2016
#97
Yes ... Insisting that a young adult (child) own up to their decision ...
1StrongBlackMan
Jun 2016
#113
I'll tell you ... There is nothing wrong with his insisting that I own my decision to quit ...
1StrongBlackMan
Jun 2016
#124
If your boss was abusive and he told you to subject yourself to that abuse further,
closeupready
Jun 2016
#129
Okay, you know what, I'm not here to pick a fight with either one of you.
closeupready
Jun 2016
#137
I think the father taught him a lesson in responsibility. You don't just walk off a job
pnwmom
Jun 2016
#128
Not if you're a responsible adult. You at the very least tender your resignation,
pnwmom
Jun 2016
#132
I might die before 40, but I'll be able to say I was never anyone's slave
FixTheProblem
Jul 2016
#257
OH, for fuck's sake. Such drama. The kid was an intern in a job with a dress code. Such
Squinch
Jun 2016
#29
I'd have booted them too. Mostly for stupidity (making demands in a situation in which
Squinch
Jun 2016
#38
How about just saying "No, that's not the way we do things here, now get back to
smirkymonkey
Jun 2016
#168
They did that. It wasn't good enough for the kid. So the kid took work time and
Squinch
Jun 2016
#209
I'd see it as saving myself and others from having to waste company time on trivial shit.
Squinch
Jun 2016
#210
The one who started the petition did go to his/her manager and ask for a revision. The person
Squinch
Jun 2016
#211
The First Amendment only applies to the government. To some degree, to most union memberships.
Yo_Mama
Jun 2016
#55
There is a difference between questioning authority and just being a brat...
Drahthaardogs
Jun 2016
#206
Free clue: the constitution and bill of rights doesn't apply to your employer*.
X_Digger
Jun 2016
#207
I would feel sorry too, except she said she had already asked her manager about it
Arkansas Granny
Jun 2016
#28
As someone who hires at least one intern per summer, and usually two, I disagree.
tonyt53
Jun 2016
#31
The entire intern scheme is a scam for wealthier people to put their own kids ahead.
hunter
Jun 2016
#36
They don't do the same job as regular hires. They are baby employees given an opportunity to learn
Hekate
Jun 2016
#162
So, low pay and militaristic working conditions are what America is all about? N/T
fasttense
Jun 2016
#112
My experience is that you don't ask managers for approval of something like that, most are going to
Hoyt
Jun 2016
#63
Isn't it funny - interns from South Asia dress to the nines, even for free, and
closeupready
Jun 2016
#87
I find the same to be true with my college students. In general, though not always of course,
tblue37
Jun 2016
#110
This must have been the intern's first job. What a privileged life to be that old ....
Hekate
Jun 2016
#69
Yeah, I read the whole thing at the link after my post. Jeez. I worked 20 hrs/week....
Hekate
Jun 2016
#99
somehow I suspect there is more to this story, though a workplace petition is bush-league nt
geek tragedy
Jun 2016
#75
It is ok to ask your manager, but when told no, then just drop it and move on to
uppityperson
Jun 2016
#101
Glad to read so many think He/She handled it wrong. I thought with so many anti-corporate types here
Hoyt
Jun 2016
#121
I've always had a simple work philosophy: I'll push the envelope until the envelope pushes back.
brooklynite
Jun 2016
#125
It was an ill-considered move on the part of the inters, but the comments here
DisgustipatedinCA
Jun 2016
#127
No one is suggesting that young people don't compare favorably to older people.
Squinch
Jun 2016
#216
Apologies--I hadn't realized you were the spokesperson for those who penned the responses I read.
DisgustipatedinCA
Jun 2016
#222
I never said I was. But please, do show me one post that suggests young people do not compare
Squinch
Jul 2016
#244
"I may only be an intern but by gosh and by golly, you're doing it WRONG and things WILL change!"
cherokeeprogressive
Jun 2016
#138
Lol. When I was hired out of graduate school I was warned to nottry to change anything for 2 years
aikoaiko
Jun 2016
#178
I would replace the intern with someone truly motivated to work at the company
Haveadream
Jun 2016
#186
They are lucky to find out early they wouldn't want to work for that company anyway.
Jim Beard
Jun 2016
#195
You're comparing an internship at a private company with being a Nazi soldier? (n/t)
PJMcK
Jul 2016
#258
Yep. On DU, we actually are told that an office dress code is the same as Nazism. Disgusting.
Squinch
Jul 2016
#260
They were fired because their group gathering was way too much like a union
The Second Stone
Jul 2016
#228
My "superiors" at work used to make fun or me for wearing sneakers with my suit from
Ilsa
Jul 2016
#243
I used to do that, shoes for office, shoes for running about. Not in NYC, but similar circumstances.
hunter
Jul 2016
#249
The "special snowflakes" are the East Coast three-piece finance people who make their livings
Warren DeMontague
Jul 2016
#254