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closeupready

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225. It's adult to go back to your abuser and explain why you left?
Fri Jul 1, 2016, 12:27 AM
Jul 2016

Oky, great, thanks - I'll remember you said that. Cheers.

I feel bad metroins Jun 2016 #1
I guess they lean pretty quick when you work for somebody else snooper2 Jun 2016 #10
We coddle them to much and can't handle the real world yeoman6987 Jun 2016 #47
yup. This has gone too far Albertoo Jun 2016 #190
As an intern, you are there to learn about the job and industry, not change the company policy tonyt53 Jun 2016 #2
And learn they did! The hard way. WillowTree Jul 2016 #226
This message was self-deleted by its author rjsquirrel Jun 2016 #3
I particularly love where the kid talks about how he/she "should have been told" why Squinch Jun 2016 #17
This message was self-deleted by its author rjsquirrel Jun 2016 #20
In the article it says that the other employee was a returning soldier who had lost her leg. Squinch Jun 2016 #23
This message was self-deleted by its author rjsquirrel Jun 2016 #40
Typically, exemptions to such policy can be health related. MohRokTah Jun 2016 #192
Exactly. In the case of this letter, ADA tammywammy Jun 2016 #200
The employee who was exempt was exempt because they were a returning soldier who had lost a leg. Squinch Jun 2016 #220
The part that said she had to start crippling herself to comply with a stupid footwear dress code Warpy Jun 2016 #189
I can't wear heels anymore. phylny Jun 2016 #205
The article didn't say anything about closed toe shoes with two inch heels. Squinch Jun 2016 #212
No flats, no open shoes (sandals), nothing but leather... Warpy Jun 2016 #223
Ive seen people wear really low blocky heels- like 3/4-1" bettyellen Jul 2016 #235
The petition specified that they wanted to be able to wear "non-leather flats." That Squinch Jul 2016 #245
This needs more information. Initech Jun 2016 #4
No. It doesn't. None of that matters ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2016 #11
+10000000000 EllieBC Jun 2016 #16
doesn't really matter, probably sales or banking of some sort... snooper2 Jun 2016 #12
No need more information. Drahthaardogs Jun 2016 #59
"Earned the right to be heard" FixTheProblem Jul 2016 #252
Well, I think you should at least know where the bathrooms are Drahthaardogs Jul 2016 #262
No it doesn't! WillowTree Jul 2016 #229
Then how about some more butter? Initech Jul 2016 #230
"I was able to get a summer internship at a company that does work in the industry..." jberryhill Jun 2016 #5
Lol. So much this. nt B2G Jun 2016 #8
Oh, my best laugh of the day! LisaM Jun 2016 #136
It's actually more like a right wing fantasy story. hunter Jun 2016 #150
"Article: Intern learns valuable lesson". n/t PoliticAverse Jun 2016 #6
No. I doubt they learned a single thing ... beyond, of course ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2016 #7
Too bad someone like you wasn't there to tell them this when the issue was first raised. Yo_Mama Jun 2016 #54
LOL ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2016 #56
Well yeah, because there's a whole world out there. It would be a bummer if we peaked at 20. Yo_Mama Jun 2016 #58
Not particularly ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2016 #60
U.S.A. workers are so pathetic. hunter Jun 2016 #9
I don't understand your point? ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2016 #13
What sort of business considers intern talk about shoes a threat? hunter Jun 2016 #30
When they start using up more resources than they can possibly generate, Yo_Mama Jun 2016 #57
I wouldn't consider it a threat whatthehey Jun 2016 #62
The thing that terrified management is that the interns organized. hunter Jun 2016 #65
I am not psychic enough to know they were terrified whatthehey Jun 2016 #73
It's not that they were organized tammywammy Jun 2016 #76
I'd say it was their manager wasting time. hunter Jun 2016 #153
I agree with you to a point. rockfordfile Jun 2016 #83
I have interns, and if they did this, they would be fired, too obamanut2012 Jun 2016 #114
It's difficult to see how a good manager would let this petty office drama go so far. hunter Jun 2016 #149
"a bum"?? philosslayer Jul 2016 #231
I was trying to write a story like a Trump voter would. hunter Jul 2016 #234
+1 leftstreet Jun 2016 #120
"terrified" is not the same thing as "annoyed." NuclearDem Jun 2016 #126
Management is not "terrified" of anyone they can fire in an instant. Binkie The Clown Jun 2016 #134
I don't think it's a real story. If it is, it reflects badly on management. hunter Jun 2016 #155
But, it's on the Internet. It MUST be true!!! n/t Binkie The Clown Jun 2016 #194
This message was self-deleted by its author rjsquirrel Jun 2016 #43
What the fuck are you talking about? hunter Jun 2016 #61
This message was self-deleted by its author rjsquirrel Jun 2016 #66
They are. This nation will fold to the first fascist who comes along. hunter Jun 2016 #67
This message was self-deleted by its author rjsquirrel Jun 2016 #70
I voted for Clinton in the primary. hunter Jun 2016 #80
This message was self-deleted by its author rjsquirrel Jun 2016 #92
That's not true rockfordfile Jun 2016 #82
This message was self-deleted by its author rjsquirrel Jun 2016 #91
This is DU. Optimism is for the stupid sheeple. Throd Jun 2016 #98
This message was self-deleted by its author rjsquirrel Jun 2016 #100
Oh, I'm pretty sure a fair number of working class Hortensis Jun 2016 #145
I think you are on to something d_r Jul 2016 #233
lol, yes, correct. closeupready Jun 2016 #109
I think we can crash land this fossil fueled civilization and walk away. hunter Jun 2016 #160
You seem to be making a broadbased leftynyc Jun 2016 #46
This message was self-deleted by its author rjsquirrel Jun 2016 #94
I don't think that has anything to do with my point leftynyc Jun 2016 #95
This message was self-deleted by its author rjsquirrel Jun 2016 #96
I see no reason to assume these interns are Hortensis Jun 2016 #154
This message was self-deleted by its author rjsquirrel Jun 2016 #156
THIS kid was talking about himself only, however. Hortensis Jun 2016 #163
"snowflakes"? Wow. That is offensive as hell. Buzz Clik Jun 2016 #14
Not really. This kid thought he/she could dictate terms to the company when he/she didn't Squinch Jun 2016 #18
But it's okay ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2016 #22
And he/she didn't have to do any more nasty work-ey jobs all summer long. Squinch Jun 2016 #24
Exactly. cwydro Jun 2016 #142
I'm hoping people like my parents were there instead. EllieBC Jun 2016 #26
LOL ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2016 #33
I got fired when I was 16 from my first job. EllieBC Jun 2016 #90
My first "real" job was working the stock room of a men's clothing store ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2016 #97
Not if your boss was abusive; THEN, I'd say, fuck it. closeupready Jun 2016 #108
Yes ... Insisting that a young adult (child) own up to their decision ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2016 #113
I don't know, you tell us. I sure wouldn't have done that. closeupready Jun 2016 #122
I'll tell you ... There is nothing wrong with his insisting that I own my decision to quit ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2016 #124
If your boss was abusive and he told you to subject yourself to that abuse further, closeupready Jun 2016 #129
I said the boss was an ass (in the eyes of a 15 year old) ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2016 #135
Okay, you know what, I'm not here to pick a fight with either one of you. closeupready Jun 2016 #137
Sounds like you may be blowing up the "abusive" part Hortensis Jun 2016 #159
I think the father taught him a lesson in responsibility. You don't just walk off a job pnwmom Jun 2016 #128
You do if the workplace is abusive, or unhealthy. closeupready Jun 2016 #130
Not if you're a responsible adult. You at the very least tender your resignation, pnwmom Jun 2016 #132
Nope. Methinks you protest too much. You weren't there; I wasn't there. closeupready Jun 2016 #133
1SBM WAS there and he clearly thinks his father did the right thing pnwmom Jun 2016 #141
See my reply to him above, and with that, I wish you a good evening. closeupready Jun 2016 #147
It's called adult. You do things even if they are horrible and awful. alphafemale Jun 2016 #191
It's adult to go back to your abuser and explain why you left? closeupready Jul 2016 #225
Absolutely. You inform them you are quitting. astral Jul 2016 #246
My parents are both "You broke it, you fix it," almost to the extreme. hunter Jun 2016 #164
I might die before 40, but I'll be able to say I was never anyone's slave FixTheProblem Jul 2016 #257
Yes, really. You're just wrong. Proud Public Servant Jun 2016 #27
OH, for fuck's sake. Such drama. The kid was an intern in a job with a dress code. Such Squinch Jun 2016 #29
And the kid did what, exactly? Proud Public Servant Jun 2016 #34
I'd have booted them too. Mostly for stupidity (making demands in a situation in which Squinch Jun 2016 #38
Me too -- I have never had interns do anything this ridiculous obamanut2012 Jun 2016 #118
How about just saying "No, that's not the way we do things here, now get back to smirkymonkey Jun 2016 #168
They DID do that obamanut2012 Jun 2016 #175
You can tell who read the article.. and who didn't.. n/t X_Digger Jun 2016 #208
They did that. It wasn't good enough for the kid. So the kid took work time and Squinch Jun 2016 #209
Then you'd be a bad manager, wasting company time on trivial shit. hunter Jun 2016 #170
I'd see it as saving myself and others from having to waste company time on trivial shit. Squinch Jun 2016 #210
They asked and were told no. Then they created a petition. tammywammy Jun 2016 #42
So? You've always taken no for an answer? Proud Public Servant Jun 2016 #48
Firing seems justified tammywammy Jun 2016 #85
Quite frankly anything is a firing offense the first 90 days. Anything! yeoman6987 Jun 2016 #51
Interns have even less protection Proud Liberal Dem Jun 2016 #68
No, the intern purposefully organized a group to put pressure on management pnwmom Jun 2016 #131
As a business owner... Abq_Sarah Jun 2016 #201
The one who started the petition did go to his/her manager and ask for a revision. The person Squinch Jun 2016 #211
The First Amendment only applies to the government. To some degree, to most union memberships. Yo_Mama Jun 2016 #55
I'm not saying it's a 1st amendment issue Proud Public Servant Jun 2016 #79
There is a difference between questioning authority and just being a brat... Drahthaardogs Jun 2016 #206
THIS!!!!!!! Squinch Jun 2016 #214
A private company is not bound by the First Amendment PJMcK Jun 2016 #78
See my response Proud Public Servant Jun 2016 #81
lolz obamanut2012 Jun 2016 #115
Seriously, I can't even believe this is DU! smirkymonkey Jun 2016 #167
I'm really glad to hear this Proud Public Servant Jun 2016 #179
Really, what is going on when DU sides with the "Man"? smirkymonkey Jun 2016 #193
Well said Iris Jul 2016 #238
Free clue: the constitution and bill of rights doesn't apply to your employer*. X_Digger Jun 2016 #207
Yes. Iris Jun 2016 #217
No sympathy here, sorry. closeupready Jun 2016 #15
After you made a money-saving proposal, you might have tried it splat Jun 2016 #19
And, even then ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2016 #25
I'm going to stick up for the intern here Proud Public Servant Jun 2016 #21
I would feel sorry too, except she said she had already asked her manager about it Arkansas Granny Jun 2016 #28
That's where I disagree Proud Public Servant Jun 2016 #41
Bingo. Iris Jun 2016 #219
As someone who hires at least one intern per summer, and usually two, I disagree. tonyt53 Jun 2016 #31
I can easily imagine Proud Public Servant Jun 2016 #44
The entire intern scheme is a scam for wealthier people to put their own kids ahead. hunter Jun 2016 #36
Not true Proud Public Servant Jun 2016 #45
In Germany apprentices are paid as full time workers... hunter Jun 2016 #49
Agree 100% (nt) Proud Public Servant Jun 2016 #77
same here in Sweden. I had a very well paying intern position AntiBank Jun 2016 #119
Here in the US, a state-registered apprentice is paid while they work. tonyt53 Jun 2016 #152
We pay our interns between 16-18 dollars an hour etherealtruth Jun 2016 #158
Engineering industry here tammywammy Jun 2016 #165
Civil and environmental engineering, for me etherealtruth Jun 2016 #172
It's everything that's not civil or environmental. Heh tammywammy Jun 2016 #182
I am strictly on the environmental side ... etherealtruth Jun 2016 #187
My company pays interns $18 an hour. They earn a living wage. nt hack89 Jun 2016 #102
Are the shoe requirements reasonable? hunter Jun 2016 #140
We require business casual in the office hack89 Jun 2016 #144
Which is entirely reasonable. n/t Aerows Jul 2016 #264
My internship paid $25 an hour... belcffub Jun 2016 #169
Who are you people? hunter Jun 2016 #174
Hi I'm chris belcffub Jun 2016 #180
I'm in a situation like this. christx30 Jun 2016 #148
+1000 Agreed smirkymonkey Jun 2016 #171
Ask a Manager is one of my favorite blogs! tammywammy Jun 2016 #32
I can't believe unpaid labor (or poorly paid labor) is given a dress code fasttense Jun 2016 #35
Not all interns are unpaid labor. tammywammy Jun 2016 #39
Rediculus, if they do the same job they should be paid the same. N/T fasttense Jun 2016 #111
They don't do the same job. tammywammy Jun 2016 #143
They don't do the same job as regular hires. They are baby employees given an opportunity to learn Hekate Jun 2016 #162
In What World Would An Intern Know Enough. . . ProfessorGAC Jul 2016 #241
Go look up the US DOL requirements for unpaid internships R.A. Ganoush Jun 2016 #50
So, low pay and militaristic working conditions are what America is all about? N/T fasttense Jun 2016 #112
Hopefuly the strawman helped you come up with that one, because R.A. Ganoush Jun 2016 #146
Only in some states are these so called protections for interns in place fasttense Jul 2016 #240
They're in place in all 50 states R.A. Ganoush Jul 2016 #242
My company pays interns $18 an hour. hack89 Jun 2016 #103
Why in the world shouldn't interns have a dress code? Orrex Jun 2016 #105
You are snowflake enabler. B2G Jun 2016 #107
Oh for crying out loud. NuclearDem Jun 2016 #117
I feel like I have stumbled on to the wrong board. smirkymonkey Jun 2016 #173
+1,000 n/t LarryNM Jun 2016 #181
This intern learned a valuable lesson. NaturalHigh Jun 2016 #37
I learned a lot from being fired. Throd Jun 2016 #53
Years ago, I met a naturalized American woman, a postwar German ex-pat. closeupready Jun 2016 #86
So did I PJMcK Jun 2016 #176
I should confess too astral Jul 2016 #247
The manager wanted to fire that intern anyway taught_me_patience Jun 2016 #52
How did you reach that conclusion? PJMcK Jul 2016 #256
My experience is that you don't ask managers for approval of something like that, most are going to Hoyt Jun 2016 #63
This is part of the reason for H1Bs alc Jun 2016 #64
I've heard that applied to other industries as well. EllieBC Jun 2016 #71
Isn't it funny - interns from South Asia dress to the nines, even for free, and closeupready Jun 2016 #87
I find the same to be true with my college students. In general, though not always of course, tblue37 Jun 2016 #110
This must have been the intern's first job. What a privileged life to be that old .... Hekate Jun 2016 #69
It was her first job. She says that in her letter. EllieBC Jun 2016 #72
Yeah, I read the whole thing at the link after my post. Jeez. I worked 20 hrs/week.... Hekate Jun 2016 #99
They knew the terms of engagement when they accepted. B2G Jun 2016 #74
somehow I suspect there is more to this story, though a workplace petition is bush-league nt geek tragedy Jun 2016 #75
very strict dress code SoLeftIAmRight Jun 2016 #84
lol closeupready Jun 2016 #88
+1,000 n/t LarryNM Jun 2016 #177
I really like your reply Jim Beard Jun 2016 #183
No shit! smirkymonkey Jun 2016 #213
Dress for the job you want, not the job you have. cbdo2007 Jun 2016 #89
It really does matter SoLeftIAmRight Jun 2016 #93
Right. It needn't be expensive to do so, either. Hekate Jun 2016 #104
Dress for success PJMcK Jul 2016 #253
It is ok to ask your manager, but when told no, then just drop it and move on to uppityperson Jun 2016 #101
Bosses usually don't like having their time wasted. AngryOldDem Jun 2016 #106
The bosses who respond to the letter make a number of excellent points. tblue37 Jun 2016 #116
I read Ask a Manager every day tammywammy Jun 2016 #157
Glad to read so many think He/She handled it wrong. I thought with so many anti-corporate types here Hoyt Jun 2016 #121
I have interns, and if they did this, they would be fired, too obamanut2012 Jun 2016 #123
I've always had a simple work philosophy: I'll push the envelope until the envelope pushes back. brooklynite Jun 2016 #125
In this case, the envelope came with a pink slip enclosed. SwankyXomb Jun 2016 #151
No, the envelope pushed back and the Interns decided to push it again. brooklynite Jun 2016 #166
It was an ill-considered move on the part of the inters, but the comments here DisgustipatedinCA Jun 2016 #127
We have had generally good results with interns etherealtruth Jun 2016 #161
No one is suggesting that young people don't compare favorably to older people. Squinch Jun 2016 #216
Apologies--I hadn't realized you were the spokesperson for those who penned the responses I read. DisgustipatedinCA Jun 2016 #222
I never said I was. But please, do show me one post that suggests young people do not compare Squinch Jul 2016 #244
"I may only be an intern but by gosh and by golly, you're doing it WRONG and things WILL change!" cherokeeprogressive Jun 2016 #138
My niece has had 12 jobs... meaculpa2011 Jun 2016 #139
Lol. When I was hired out of graduate school I was warned to nottry to change anything for 2 years aikoaiko Jun 2016 #178
That is really, really sound advice obamanut2012 Jun 2016 #188
'Trouble makers' elleng Jun 2016 #184
I agree with you 100% Jim Beard Jun 2016 #196
"special snowflakes" derp Warren DeMontague Jun 2016 #185
Good Post, Thanks! Jim Beard Jun 2016 #197
Yep. It's the truth. Warren DeMontague Jun 2016 #199
10 years ago there was a BBC documentary about the history of video games... Odin2005 Jun 2016 #204
Exactly. Warren DeMontague Jul 2016 #237
Yep, that was my guess, too. Odin2005 Jun 2016 #203
I would replace the intern with someone truly motivated to work at the company Haveadream Jun 2016 #186
They are lucky to find out early they wouldn't want to work for that company anyway. Jim Beard Jun 2016 #195
Remember when women were expected to dress feminine and sexy in the office? dilby Jun 2016 #198
Wow, nice ageist slur against young people. Odin2005 Jun 2016 #202
The lack of critical thinking on this thread is mind-boggling. Iris Jun 2016 #221
let us explore this SoLeftIAmRight Jul 2016 #224
Deutchland, Deutchland, Uber Alles! smirkymonkey Jun 2016 #215
Really? You're going to go Godwin on this? On THIS? smh. Squinch Jun 2016 #218
I don't know whether to laugh my ass off or be terrified. I honestly don't. hunter Jul 2016 #227
You're comparing an internship at a private company with being a Nazi soldier? (n/t) PJMcK Jul 2016 #258
Yep. On DU, we actually are told that an office dress code is the same as Nazism. Disgusting. Squinch Jul 2016 #260
They were fired because their group gathering was way too much like a union The Second Stone Jul 2016 #228
Message to Millennials. RandySF Jul 2016 #232
A petition at work, by interns??? romanic Jul 2016 #236
Special snowflakes got their first taste of corporate culture. GOLGO 13 Jul 2016 #239
My "superiors" at work used to make fun or me for wearing sneakers with my suit from Ilsa Jul 2016 #243
I used to do that, shoes for office, shoes for running about. Not in NYC, but similar circumstances. hunter Jul 2016 #249
This message was self-deleted by its author LanternWaste Jul 2016 #248
judging by the responses in this thread ibegurpard Jul 2016 #250
Dress codes are the fundamental foundation of society Warren DeMontague Jul 2016 #251
People like myself don't matter much to anyone, it seems... FixTheProblem Jul 2016 #255
The "special snowflakes" are the East Coast three-piece finance people who make their livings Warren DeMontague Jul 2016 #254
This country (and captalism) are in a rude awakening FixTheProblem Jul 2016 #259
An office dress code is not "being treated like horse shit." Brattines is not "demanding respect." Squinch Jul 2016 #261
When you go to work Aerows Jul 2016 #263
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