Why don't these activists vote? (Reply #126)

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Wed Dec 28, 2011, 02:00 PM

126. Why don't these activists vote?

Republicans- whose "base" votes religiously- would have a much harder time winning elections if people on our side didn't stay home on election day and essentially let them win. Do they ever wonder why so many regressives keep running for office and winning- usually making their jobs (and everybody else's lives) harder, not easier? It makes no sense to me whatsoever. Voting, particularly when relatively so few people actually do so in our country for one reason or another, seems like it would be a no-brainer, particularly among people whom tend to be more politically informed and better educated than your average person. What exactly do they think they are accomplishing by not voting?

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138 replies	Author	Time	Post
Greenwald: Vote Obama – If You Want a Centrist Republican for US President [View all]	Karmadillo	Dec 2011	OP
And who is Greenwald endorsing? -nt	CakeGrrl	Dec 2011	#1
He doesn't vote, himself	frazzled	Dec 2011	#4
When he wrote his 1st book, he hadn't voted in a Presidential election.	Luminous Animal	Dec 2011	#14
So a grown man who has voted in one election?	frazzled	Dec 2011	#28
I do poll watching for the Democratic Party in every election. It is dismaying but a fact of U.S.	Luminous Animal	Dec 2011	#59
Correct, citizenship does not require us to vote.	frazzled	Dec 2011	#66
Actually, I know plenty of good citizens who don't vote.	Luminous Animal	Dec 2011	#74
Why don't these activists vote?	Proud Liberal Dem	Dec 2011	#126
Most vote in local elections but believe "the fix is in" on the	Luminous Animal	Dec 2011	#136
That's too bad	Proud Liberal Dem	Dec 2011	#137
Don't forget ... Limpballs didn't vote for his Lord and Savior, Ronald Reagan ... because	zbdent	Dec 2011	#72
His vote won't and hasn't determined who is elected President. Nor will yours.	Better Believe It	Dec 2011	#95
My vote indeed determines who is elected, and so does yours	frazzled	Dec 2011	#96
So your single vote will determine who is elected President. Sounds like a really close election!	Better Believe It	Dec 2011	#105
Your theory is a self-fulfilling prophecy.	frazzled	Dec 2011	#113
Stay Home!	Bobbie Jo	Dec 2011	#112
Greenwald has some valid points	mazzarro	Dec 2011	#109
People don't need to vote to be able to speak out on things, sure	Proud Liberal Dem	Dec 2011	#138
Gary Johnson, aka Mitt Romney. Glenn's working overtime for that Koch money.	Tarheel_Dem	Dec 2011	#19
that is flat out false	dsc	Dec 2011	#80
Post removed	Post removed	Dec 2011	#88
put up or shut up	dsc	Dec 2011	#89
See ya in Help & Meta, mmmkay?	Tarheel_Dem	Dec 2011	#91
I have to put you on ignore for engaging in personal attacks against DU'ers.	Better Believe It	Dec 2011	#97
I won't tell you what to do with your advice. Didn't you claim to have me on "Ignore"?	Tarheel_Dem	Dec 2011	#101
He said he's "keeping his eye on" former GOPer and now Libertarian Gary Johnson...	jefferson_dem	Dec 2011	#73
Yep, the fact of the matter is that Obama is somewhere to the right of Eisenhower,	MadHound	Dec 2011	#2
Obama is somewhere to the right of George H. W. Bush.	provis99	Dec 2011	#64
Too bad President Obama is so quick to use war as a negotiating tool, unlike Eisenhower	sad sally	Dec 2011	#93
Point of information, Greenwald reported on Twitter that he did not write the headline.	Luminous Animal	Dec 2011	#3
The headline?	Inuca	Dec 2011	#12
Of course he did.	Luminous Animal	Dec 2011	#15
Ignore all of his progressive legislation and you too can live in fantasy-land with Glenn	tridim	Dec 2011	#5
Yes, those months of trying to renegotiate an extension of SOFA was	EFerrari	Dec 2011	#16
To be fair, they were trying to leave training forces (with immunity)...	joshcryer	Dec 2011	#60
It's amazing. This is information that was well reported and yet	Luminous Animal	Dec 2011	#61
they have to lie about Obama to make him look extreme	Enrique	Dec 2011	#6
Greenwald's defense of Ron Paul in the newsletters situation should be the clue	Bolo Boffin	Dec 2011	#7
+1	Tarheel_Dem	Dec 2011	#22
He defended Paul? OMG.	DevonRex	Dec 2011	#23
Oh yeah...here's a quote	msanthrope	Dec 2011	#30
I've read and reread the article and I can find no defense of the newsletters anywhere.	Luminous Animal	Dec 2011	#36
You missed his palm off this week?	msanthrope	Dec 2011	#65
Maybe because Conor's piece was posted the day before and Alex's piece was posted	Luminous Animal	Dec 2011	#81
"Of course I hate seeing them blame his noble acts on a mental illness..."	Bolo Boffin	Dec 2011	#92
I have read the defense of the Bradley Manning defense strategy	dsc	Dec 2011	#82
Ron Paul as "anti-crony-capitalism"!	joshcryer	Dec 2011	#38
It's a good thing people generally ignore uber partsans who prop up certain politicians	fascisthunter	Dec 2011	#33
You just won the thread. Sorry it's such a crappy little prize.	Number23	Dec 2011	#100
Well said...nt	SidDithers	Dec 2011	#104
Fuck Greenwald - he is not worth rebutting.	banned from Kos	Dec 2011	#8
I Concur!	mckara	Dec 2011	#11
"Fuck him" "fuck her" "fuck this" fuck that"..	girl gone mad	Dec 2011	#85
he has.	Whisp	Dec 2011	#107
Some one needs to send Glenn a life time supply of ...	JoePhilly	Dec 2011	#9
Did I say	ProSense	Dec 2011	#10
Awesome. Lead the lemmings over the cliff.	AtomicKitten	Dec 2011	#13
He can't live in the U.S. because the U.S. bars his partner from U.S. residency.	Luminous Animal	Dec 2011	#18
Greenwald	ProSense	Dec 2011	#26
"I affirm my distaste for photographic leader-glorification, but I'll rescind my invocation of Leni	Luminous Animal	Dec 2011	#41
wrong, wrong, and wrong	Lord Helmet	Dec 2011	#31
Hamsher was a big Hillary shill during the primaries.	joshcryer	Dec 2011	#44
Show me. I once spent 2-3 hours looking for evidence that she supported Hillary and I could find	Luminous Animal	Dec 2011	#48
Sure:	joshcryer	Dec 2011	#51
And when I was doing my research, I found as many "pro-Obama/anti-Hillary" posts.	Luminous Animal	Dec 2011	#67
Read my post, I addressed the telecom and Lieberman posts. They're the only two.	joshcryer	Dec 2011	#70
So, your a PUMA, eh?	Luminous Animal	Dec 2011	#75
What makes you think that?	joshcryer	Dec 2011	#77
Uh, he does not reside in the US due to bigoted immigration laws. No matter what you think of	Bluenorthwest	Dec 2011	#46
Post removed	Post removed	Dec 2011	#84
Within that framework, I do want a Centrist Republican for US President	cthulu2016	Dec 2011	#17
Horror of all horrors! You sound....(gasp)..PRAGMATIC!!!...	Kahuna	Dec 2011	#25
I should post this on some centrist GOP/Indepedent forums	maximusveritas	Dec 2011	#20
Umkay, Glenn. Whatever you say, Centrist Republican it is...	NYC_SKP	Dec 2011	#21
LOL! I love this response!	Kahuna	Dec 2011	#29
PAGING GLENN: And who is our alternative?	BeHereNow	Dec 2011	#24
The article is about the crazy radical Republican field. It is not about	Luminous Animal	Dec 2011	#43
Looks like you and I are the only ones who read the post.	russspeakeasy	Dec 2011	#115
There's been a string of cherrypicking Greenwald articles recently. People taking random paragraphs	Puregonzo1188	Dec 2011	#125
add the fact that there is some criticism of Mr. O. and a lot of people	russspeakeasy	Dec 2011	#127
yeah... Vote for someone else and get...	Ohio Joe	Dec 2011	#27
Not once in the entire article does Greenwald advocate for a far right wing fundy	Luminous Animal	Dec 2011	#47
He does not have to	Ohio Joe	Dec 2011	#50
How, in anyone's reality, could Greenwald eliminate Obama?	Luminous Animal	Dec 2011	#68
I never said he could	Ohio Joe	Dec 2011	#78
Greenwald only has to work on eliminating voters here and there.......	FrenchieCat	Dec 2011	#79
Vote for Obama.	UnrepentantLiberal	Dec 2011	#121
Your alternative?	Ohio Joe	Dec 2011	#124
I know your point.	UnrepentantLiberal	Dec 2011	#128
He is a Moderate Republican	fascisthunter	Dec 2011	#32
Actually,	ProSense	Dec 2011	#34
And who is advocating voting for a racist lunatic?	Luminous Animal	Dec 2011	#45
Fake Progressives for Racists 2012! n/t	ProSense	Dec 2011	#56
lol... pathetic	fascisthunter	Dec 2011	#116
His ardent supporters are the Democratic Party. Sorry you don't stand with us.	MjolnirTime	Dec 2011	#37
yeah I know... unfortunately they are dems	fascisthunter	Dec 2011	#39
So, you're calling out at lease half of DU posters as republicans????	Kahuna	Dec 2011	#40
And when Kuch announces his support for Obama will you call him a Repub?	great white snark	Dec 2011	#49
What gives you the right to label others, some who have been on this board as long or longer	FrenchieCat	Dec 2011	#76
They're very forgiving "progressives",	UnrepentantLiberal	Dec 2011	#122
Greenwald is a toad.	MjolnirTime	Dec 2011	#35
Thanks for your detailed, reasoned analysis	_ed_	Dec 2011	#114
Oh no Greenwald... you can't be honest here	fascisthunter	Dec 2011	#42
and don't if you want one of the following fucking idiots	spanone	Dec 2011	#52
So, we're back to voting for the "less evil" ?	russspeakeasy	Dec 2011	#129
Greenwald: read me if you like advice from a PUMA tool pathetic man.	great white snark	Dec 2011	#53
I see lots of people calling Glen Greenwald names, and getting on him for his Libertarian slant	DisgustipatedinCA	Dec 2011	#54
Yup . Someone will send Glenn "the list". That ought to shut him up.	russspeakeasy	Dec 2011	#131
...	elleng	Dec 2011	#55
Greenwald. LOL...	SidDithers	Dec 2011	#57
Nailed It Again	bvar22	Dec 2011	#58
Nailling us to a cross.....is what Greenwald is recommending for the American people.....	FrenchieCat	Dec 2011	#62
Want	ProSense	Dec 2011	#63
Dead to rights. n/t	girl gone mad	Dec 2011	#86
Portrait rings more hard-core than centrist to these progressive	indepat	Dec 2011	#69
Glenn Greenwald...	jefferson_dem	Dec 2011	#71
Greenwald - a flaming bag of douche	jpak	Dec 2011	#83
Those who wanted a progressive populist--	eridani	Dec 2011	#87
More USA PATRIOT Act. Less Justice.	Octafish	Dec 2011	#90
Vote Not Obama if you want Right Wing Nutball for President.	BootinUp	Dec 2011	#94
Perhaps Greenwald prefers and will vote for a Centrist Republican President.	Better Believe It	Dec 2011	#98
Eisenhower isn't running this time. lol.	BootinUp	Dec 2011	#99
A good read	quinnox	Dec 2011	#102
Better than the right wing nutjobs the actual (R)'s are running	slay	Dec 2011	#103
He is right, of course.	hifiguy	Dec 2011	#106
^ This sums up my opinion completely, as well. nt	Poll_Blind	Dec 2011	#111
And if you want to vote for a solidly progressive Democrat, vote for...	randome	Dec 2011	#108
That platform has been removed.	russspeakeasy	Dec 2011	#132
You mean it's no longer the Democratic Party's platform.	randome	Dec 2011	#133
Exactly.	russspeakeasy	Dec 2011	#134
K & R!	Wind Dancer	Dec 2011	#110
that's why people here are attacking him personally instead	fascisthunter	Dec 2011	#117
I'd say that's pretty accurate.	Edweird	Dec 2011	#118
This paragraph is absolutely fuckin' true.	blindpig	Dec 2011	#119
I vote for progressives.	Tierra_y_Libertad	Dec 2011	#120
Sad but true	libodem	Dec 2011	#123
Yup, and he doesn't even mention the environmental disaster Obama has been...	joeybee12	Dec 2011	#130
K&R (nt)	T S Justly	Dec 2011	#135

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