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SusanCalvin

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54. I remain convinced, or at least hopeful

Mon Aug 1, 2016, 10:38 PM

Aug 2016

That that was lashing out in frustration.

Hope I am right, or if not that at least a heartfelt lesson was learned.

Yes, some things are heinous, totally agree.

But not many things (some things, granted) are truly, totally unforgivable. In this case, I, personally, forgive. YMMV.

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Jackpine Radicals DEMONIZES Black Lives Matter [View all] bravenak Aug 2016 OP

Then don't go there? NightWatcher Aug 2016 #1

I'll do what i want to do. bravenak Aug 2016 #2

Not being bossy, but I don't like the site so I avoid it. NightWatcher Aug 2016 #3

Recommended. guillaumeb Aug 2016 #4

Black folks have to inform themselves or else bravenak Aug 2016 #12

I know that's right rbrnmw Aug 2016 #31

People act like they dont know bravenak Aug 2016 #35

yeah cause they don't have to worry about who has the knives to their backs rbrnmw Aug 2016 #46

That site is fixated on Hillary Clinton Gothmog Aug 2016 #204

Is the poster, Madhound, the head of JPR or authorized to speak for it? Eleanors38 Aug 2016 #234

I am not sure he is the head of anything. But he sure got recs. bravenak Aug 2016 #247

AMEN! nt SusanCalvin Aug 2016 #61

Reading JPR is informing yourself? About what? cherokeeprogressive Aug 2016 #86

Gotta agree with you there. cwydro Aug 2016 #203

I think some old opponents fled there in defeat Hortensis Aug 2016 #253

My father was very Liberal yet Chevy Aug 2016 #97

2 Georgia State students kicked out of Hillary Clinton rally for 'Black Lives Matter' sign Omaha Steve Aug 2016 #180

So, something that happened in February excuses everything they say or do now? bravenak Aug 2016 #192

I'm not excusing anything that is racist Omaha Steve Aug 2016 #199

Thank you Omaha Steve saidsimplesimon Aug 2016 #263

"Black folks need to inform themselves?" Nonsense! Orrex Aug 2016 #201

I know, right bravenak Aug 2016 #246

Know your enemy. sheshe2 Aug 2016 #21

^THIS^ SusanCalvin Aug 2016 #64

Indeed wysi Aug 2016 #76

Yup! sheshe2 Aug 2016 #81

Then be prepared to get yourself irritated. TheCowsCameHome Aug 2016 #7

Because drama. n/t demmiblue Aug 2016 #10

^THIS^ Turn CO Blue Aug 2016 #13

Heh. (n/t) SMC22307 Aug 2016 #111

Double this ^^ chwaliszewski Aug 2016 #124

No, to promote tolerance. lovemydog Aug 2016 #182

+1 jack_krass Aug 2016 #239

Because words can have consequences. SusanCalvin Aug 2016 #66

Probably because these are the same creeps that KMOD Aug 2016 #67

Yup. zappaman Aug 2016 #94

Yes, because the SAME CREEPS. betsuni Aug 2016 #123

I like that they have their very own place. KMOD Aug 2016 #142

Well done, my girl! NanceGreggs Aug 2016 #177

Why go there? Texasgal Aug 2016 #5

Because bravenak Aug 2016 #18

Okay? Texasgal Aug 2016 #24

Know your enemy. nt SusanCalvin Aug 2016 #72

Isn't "rant and rave" Lilith Rising Aug 2016 #83

Oh good gawd! Texasgal Aug 2016 #112

No. Juust saying that Trump Lilith Rising Aug 2016 #121

"Rant and rave." SMC22307 Aug 2016 #173

why are you so worried about other ppl on another site G_j Aug 2016 #6

Why are you worried about what I'm worried about rather than getting Hillary elected? bravenak Aug 2016 #16

Probably because you posted about it. nt Gore1FL Aug 2016 #40

I respect you G_j KMOD Aug 2016 #80

I am pretty amazed at the extent that some people G_j Aug 2016 #170

Well, perhaps it's because I do hold a grudge of some sort. KMOD Aug 2016 #174

it's all too much for me to keep track of G_j Aug 2016 #176

Or perhaps you weren't persecuted, KMOD Aug 2016 #178

no I haven't been G_j Aug 2016 #179

Yeah it is silly, I have decided to ignore those causing all the drama. Rex Aug 2016 #273

Good for you - we all know you were stalked and harassed, as were others. You were NEVER.... George II Dec 2016 #296

that's what right wing bigots do JI7 Aug 2016 #8

I know. They just make me sick today. bravenak Aug 2016 #14

So does DU. demmiblue Aug 2016 #9

That is horrible bravenak Aug 2016 #17

Yeah, also were called thugs and accused of extortion here Bradical79 Aug 2016 #281

Sounds to me like right-wing trolls are ratfucking the site. backscatter712 Aug 2016 #11

I do not equate that site with being a Bernie site bravenak Aug 2016 #15

The admins on that site sheshe2 Aug 2016 #25

Yep. It is their fault that it got this way bravenak Aug 2016 #27

One admin said it was okay to CALL HILL THE C WORD.... sheshe2 Aug 2016 #37

Yep. I noticed the hatred of women there. Sick sick sick bravenak Aug 2016 #43

Fuck them! sheshe2 Aug 2016 #48

They are jealous bravenak Aug 2016 #56

jealous assholes! sheshe2 Aug 2016 #58

Of course. They're just whooping it up over what a great idea Dead Woman Card is. kcr Aug 2016 #151

Link please. Scuba Aug 2016 #193

So disgusting, I gotta have another look! Even the link dissolved!! Eleanors38 Aug 2016 #235

That's right. kcr Aug 2016 #242

Who is Madhound? He in charge of JPR? Authorized to speak for them?.... Eleanors38 Aug 2016 #245

Okay, no snark this time. I'm asking this in all seriousness. kcr Aug 2016 #255

Point: His view doesn't necessarily imply an endorsement from the site where posted. Eleanors38 Aug 2016 #259

I don't belong to the site... sheshe2 Aug 2016 #237

Here. I found a long and interesting thread on the topic. There's some reasoned opinions within. Scuba Aug 2016 #240

And there it is kcr Aug 2016 #243

Not the one I was thinking of... sheshe2 Aug 2016 #284

They did? SusanCalvin Aug 2016 #89

You would have to go look. But dont. It's mean. bravenak Aug 2016 #104

Yes they are. KMOD Aug 2016 #77

No surprise. greatauntoftriplets Aug 2016 #19

I am not ever surprised anymore bravenak Aug 2016 #23

15 post dimwit Warpy Aug 2016 #20

They might need a mirt bravenak Aug 2016 #22

The inmates are in charge there. There is no pivoting away from crazy and racist nt geek tragedy Aug 2016 #33

This is the last time I bother even looking bravenak Aug 2016 #47

Best just to stay out of that cess pool, unless... Adrahil Aug 2016 #26

I just hope they feel embarassed and knock it off. bravenak Aug 2016 #28

You hope in vain, I'm afraid. Adrahil Aug 2016 #34

That is sad bravenak Aug 2016 #38

Don't argue with idiots and crazy people. Folks The Second Stone Aug 2016 #29

You are RIGHT bravenak Aug 2016 #30

As always, but especially on this one The Second Stone Aug 2016 #39

The Trumpkins and special snowflakes there aren't worth OPs here. nt geek tragedy Aug 2016 #32

I know. They really get on my nerves though bravenak Aug 2016 #41

They are racists and wingnuts and crazy people. geek tragedy Aug 2016 #45

I'm fine with identifying racism here or elsewhere (JPR, Disc'nist, etc.). Surprised anyone objects. Hoyt Aug 2016 #36

I'm not surprised they object. bravenak Aug 2016 #42

Some people on this site are anti-semetic. panader0 Aug 2016 #44

I remain convinced, or at least hopeful SusanCalvin Aug 2016 #54

OMG Brave. SusanCalvin Aug 2016 #49

Hey. It was nice to see you, even if very briefly bravenak Aug 2016 #51

I'll do what my old, tired nerves allow, SusanCalvin Aug 2016 #57

I Know how you feel bravenak Aug 2016 #63

Disgusting bluestateguy Aug 2016 #50

No surprise. Those folks are openly hostile to black people. nt Cali_Democrat Aug 2016 #52

Hate us with a PURPLE PASSION bravenak Aug 2016 #53

why do you pay any attention to them? Skittles Aug 2016 #55

Because what they spew might have consequences. nt SusanCalvin Aug 2016 #59

I live in Texas Skittles Aug 2016 #68

I agree with the f them. SusanCalvin Aug 2016 #70

go there then Skittles Aug 2016 #71

I don't go there, I go here. SusanCalvin Aug 2016 #74

whatever floats your boat Skittles Aug 2016 #75

Same here. SusanCalvin Aug 2016 #79

Anti black attitudes are a physical danger to my person bravenak Aug 2016 #60

Not alone, hopefully. SusanCalvin Aug 2016 #69

Thank you bravenak Aug 2016 #103

Don't go there anymore. Iggo Aug 2016 #62

I just said upthread that this was my last visit bravenak Aug 2016 #65

not sure why they do it Skittles Aug 2016 #78

I've said it before BainsBane Aug 2016 #73

+++++++ KMOD Aug 2016 #82

Well said. SunSeeker Aug 2016 #84

Hear, hear. Ellen Forradalom Aug 2016 #90

Absolutely. They are nasty and deceptive bravenak Aug 2016 #106

+1 Starry Messenger Aug 2016 #109

^^^^THIS!!!^^^^ is a MUST READ. Thank you for that post! nt AgadorSparticus Aug 2016 #134

OT, but is your user name the character in "The Birdcage"? betsuni Aug 2016 #139

yes it is. It is one of my favorite movies. I chose it because I love humor and it was so freaking AgadorSparticus Aug 2016 #143

I watched it again the other night and it never gets old! betsuni Aug 2016 #144

I have watched it a million times and I agree, it is a classic. Never gets old. AgadorSparticus Aug 2016 #149

Ahahaha! Bradical79 Aug 2016 #282

I LOVE that scene! Nathan Lane is just amazing. Thanks for the video post. AgadorSparticus Aug 2016 #290

Agreed Gothmog Aug 2016 #205

That's interesting... OneGrassRoot Aug 2016 #221

Since Bernie isn't a candidate anymore BainsBane Aug 2016 #225

Excellent points. OneGrassRoot Aug 2016 #230

Dont You Think It's Time To Focus On Trump Instead? billhicks76 Aug 2016 #85

Thank you. roamer65 Aug 2016 #88

dup Skittles Aug 2016 #92

Some On DU Are Intent On Dividing Everyone billhicks76 Aug 2016 #98

Only worthwhile comment on the thread so far. Scuba Aug 2016 #195

^^^THIS^^^ Skittles Aug 2016 #93

That's exactly what conservative groups want. KMOD Aug 2016 #95

Putins Paid Trolls n/t Chevy Aug 2016 #100

Some...And Paid Trolls From Every Interest Group There Is billhicks76 Aug 2016 #102

I Dont Know What JPR Is billhicks76 Aug 2016 #101

I don't look for racists. I look for ignorant and racially tone-deaf folks, KMOD Aug 2016 #110

I have to wonder why this shit is allowed melman Aug 2016 #114

Curious, what suggests to you that DU rules would 'forbid it?' emulatorloo Aug 2016 #251

right here melman Aug 2016 #256

BLM isnt a losing or winning primary candidate. It is a movement that transcends all that. emulatorloo Aug 2016 #261

It has been established that some people here are, self-admittingly, trolling DU. demmiblue Aug 2016 #117

They have a following melman Aug 2016 #128

Don't you think it's a bit of a concern forjusticethunders Aug 2016 #120

Haven't Witnessed Yet Myself billhicks76 Aug 2016 #181

Someone is still smarting over Seattle... SMC22307 Aug 2016 #155

I'm amused by the members of that club. The_Casual_Observer Aug 2016 #87

Hey. I try to read her posts but it is becomming harder and harder to decipher what she is trying to bravenak Aug 2016 #107

That one was always saying farewell The_Casual_Observer Aug 2016 #126

I remember her endless gbcws bravenak Aug 2016 #133

Makes me realize just how long I have been at this site. The_Casual_Observer Aug 2016 #136

I can imagine. The more they hate on them the stronger my conviction to vote for her is bravenak Aug 2016 #137

I don't know which was worse 2008 or this year. The_Casual_Observer Aug 2016 #140

Me too. bravenak Aug 2016 #141

I used to like, SusanCalvin Aug 2016 #291

Me too. I feel the same way bravenak Aug 2016 #292

Thanks, brave. Signing out again. nt SusanCalvin Aug 2016 #295

so did DU when BLM protested Hillary. nt retrowire Aug 2016 #91

Lol the place is getting trolled, many posting w the same style as Hillary's biggest DUers Arazi Aug 2016 #96

Clicked on the link. Jakes Progress Aug 2016 #99

I really used to like a lot of them. Sad bravenak Aug 2016 #105

Post removed Post removed Aug 2016 #156

I think every poster at JPR managed to earn their reputation, msanthrope Aug 2016 #175

I'm a poster at JPR. What's my reputation? Violet_Crumble Aug 2016 #200

Tell me exactly what it is you disagree with? msanthrope Aug 2016 #202

"These aren’t white issues, or black issues, they are human issues." SMC22307 Aug 2016 #108

Yeah, Bernie said he would give them 15 dollar an hour in order KMOD Aug 2016 #116

Wrong. SMC22307 Aug 2016 #125

No, it's not funny at all. KMOD Aug 2016 #129

That their demands mirror much of Bernie's platform... SMC22307 Aug 2016 #132

Black voters are not monolithic KMOD Aug 2016 #138

Neither are participants on JPR. Or DU, for that matter. SMC22307 Aug 2016 #146

I can't help what the ignorant elitists choose to do. KMOD Aug 2016 #150

LOL! Congrats, you've fully embraced right-wing framing... SMC22307 Aug 2016 #153

I did discuss it. KMOD Aug 2016 #157

Parallels between BLM demands and Sanders campaign. SMC22307 Aug 2016 #162

Hillary Clinton addresses many of their wishes as well. KMOD Aug 2016 #166

She was also there for the Iraq War vote, SMC22307 Aug 2016 #210

She was also a Senator in New York after 9/11, but her phony detractors refuse R B Garr Aug 2016 #212

Oh FFS, I'm so sick and tired of this phony and dishonest superiority complex. R B Garr Aug 2016 #208

Take two aspirin and get some rest. SMC22307 Aug 2016 #211

This is the typical personal attack we've grown accustomed to from the losing campaign. R B Garr Aug 2016 #213

Post removed Post removed Aug 2016 #189

The primary is over dude. cwydro Aug 2016 #206

"there is a reason he did not resonate with minorities and women" Omaha Steve Aug 2016 #214

The correct info is that the election results supersede speculative articles from April. R B Garr Aug 2016 #215

Age gap cuts into Clinton’s support among female voters Omaha Steve Aug 2016 #218

LOL, I don't need a link to the election results. They are all over the internet and R B Garr Aug 2016 #219

So why on earth did you bother to waste your time on my reply at all? Omaha Steve Aug 2016 #222

You posted about younger voters. It's only part of the story. The rest of the R B Garr Aug 2016 #223

Another group trying to claim that they are the... TipTok Aug 2016 #118

Are their policy points not valid? SMC22307 Aug 2016 #127

They certainly match... TipTok Aug 2016 #158

ugh Person 2713 Aug 2016 #228

All one has to do to disperse a jackpineradical gathering... Tarc Aug 2016 #113

LOL bravenak Aug 2016 #115

Are you gainfully employed? (n/t) SMC22307 Aug 2016 #130

You're not going to convince us liberals to go into a snake pit like jack pine kimbutgar Aug 2016 #119

Good. I saw it. It was nasty. Don't go!!!! bravenak Aug 2016 #122

The site is designed to fail. JohnnyRingo Aug 2016 #131

You might be right about it being a troll testing the limits bravenak Aug 2016 #135

This message was self-deleted by its author rjsquirrel Aug 2016 #185

I was over having a laugh in another thread about what crackpots they are, but kcr Aug 2016 #145

Crackpots, yep bravenak Aug 2016 #148

I read the OP; I think you're simplifying and overgeneralizing elias7 Aug 2016 #147

Close to 150 replies and zero discussion about BLM's platform... SMC22307 Aug 2016 #152

That's right kcr Aug 2016 #154

"Dead Woman Card carrying hate site members and the crazy things they say" SMC22307 Aug 2016 #160

Why are you doing that? kcr Aug 2016 #161

Please decipher the word salad above. SMC22307 Aug 2016 #164

I don't know. Go to the website and ask the person kcr Aug 2016 #165

BLM is referenced in the OP. Why wouldn't it be discussed? SMC22307 Aug 2016 #168

In the context of the JPer demonizing BLM, sure. kcr Aug 2016 #169

The link provided in the OP is hardly an "attack." SMC22307 Aug 2016 #171

Well, obviously, you have a very different definition of attack than I do. kcr Aug 2016 #172

Inappropriately as well as Over-used internet and phrase #98 --"Word Salad" ismnotwasm Aug 2016 #217

This OP isn't about the issues Arazi Aug 2016 #163

That's abundantly clear. Name-calling and callouts... SMC22307 Aug 2016 #167

Here's some of BLM's platform: lovemydog Aug 2016 #186

Reasonable? KMOD Aug 2016 #159

That thread reminds me of the Stockholm syndrome lovemydog Aug 2016 #194

They aren't progressive BainsBane Aug 2016 #220

Good riddance lovemydog Aug 2016 #183

I'm kinda glad they have their own place now. bravenak Aug 2016 #191

Me too. lovemydog Aug 2016 #196

I know, the cycle is hilarious bravenak Aug 2016 #198

Why don't you make an account over there and tell them what you think? redgreenandblue Aug 2016 #184

Ew bravenak Aug 2016 #187

This message was self-deleted by its author rjsquirrel Aug 2016 #188

It really is pathetic bravenak Aug 2016 #190

Agree with you on everything lovemydog Aug 2016 #197

there's no demonisation in the extract you posted n/t PaulaFarrell Aug 2016 #207

I didn't quite get that either G_j Aug 2016 #238

Years ago here, a homeless member of DU contacted me, requesting closeupready Aug 2016 #209

Interesting ismnotwasm Aug 2016 #224

I presume that means you are no longer homeless, and if so, closeupready Aug 2016 #236

Not for many years ismnotwasm Aug 2016 #257

+1 n/t lumberjack_jeff Aug 2016 #278

Not surprised ismnotwasm Aug 2016 #216

Post removed Post removed Aug 2016 #226

Just holding feet to the fire. nt msanthrope Aug 2016 #227

"Snitches"??? ismnotwasm Aug 2016 #233

Well it did get a bit fucking ridiculous with all the accusing Sanders supporters of being racists. CBGLuthier Aug 2016 #229

Thosexare not fucking Sanders supporters. Those people hate Sanders now. I must defend him! bravenak Aug 2016 #249

Post removed Post removed Aug 2016 #231

Drama! Egnever Aug 2016 #232

Sure are a lot of people sensitive about what you post. Starry Messenger Aug 2016 #241

Sensitive? melman Aug 2016 #244

Funny thing... They could ignore me but instead they RACE to post on my ops. Funny how important bravenak Aug 2016 #250

Gotta figure out how to monetize that bravenak. fleabiscuit Aug 2016 #254

Oh hell yeah! Get PAID!!! bravenak Aug 2016 #264

I think JustAnotherGen said $500 per post! LOL fleabiscuit Aug 2016 #274

Ohhhh!!! They owe me moooney!! bravenak Aug 2016 #280

Many of us enjoy her posts. Starry Messenger Aug 2016 #270

There sure are. bravenak Aug 2016 #248

How dare you hold up that mirror to white America!!!!!!!!!! guillaumeb Aug 2016 #252

It stresses me out a bit to know how badly they take me criticising bigots bravenak Aug 2016 #266

I agree that those BLM activists who supported Hillary made a mistake. Vattel Aug 2016 #258

let's face it G_j Aug 2016 #260

You don't get to decide what is best for them ir a 'mistake'. Decide for yourself. bravenak Aug 2016 #267

I think that the black lives matter activists who voted for Sanders made the right choice, Vattel Aug 2016 #272

Thats none of your business. bravenak Aug 2016 #279

Sure it is. I can have opinions about who people should vote for. Vattel Aug 2016 #283

You can. And we can tell you it is none of your business. bravenak Aug 2016 #285

and you'd be mistaken Vattel Aug 2016 #286

You would be bravenak Aug 2016 #287

By the way, I think you would be making a mistake if you voted for Trump. Vattel Aug 2016 #288

I dont need to know all of your thoughts about Trump. My voting for him would NEVER be considered. bravenak Aug 2016 #289

Troll ID is in the eyes of the beholder. saidsimplesimon Aug 2016 #262

What the hell does this EVEN MEAN? bravenak Aug 2016 #265

The dozens ismnotwasm Aug 2016 #268

Oh I see. Funny that it must be discussed while discussing anti black attitudes bravenak Aug 2016 #269

Yup ismnotwasm Aug 2016 #271

Jackpine Radical would be laughing his ass off right now... If he wasn't dead Ellipsis Aug 2016 #275

I knew Jackpine Radical. Jackpine Radical was a good man. NuclearDem Aug 2016 #276

A fellow 'Sconi who was indeed a kind man. It saddens me all the way around. Ellipsis Aug 2016 #277

Thanks for the link!, lots good discussion there, and many former DUers! jack_krass Aug 2016 #293

Hope you enjoy it enough to become a regular poster there! bravenak Aug 2016 #294