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In reply to the discussion: How is it NOT a display of white privilege to mock the idea of "Safe Spaces"? [View all]Ken Burch
(50,254 posts)38. You can gain that mental strength without being subjected to delegitimization.
You and I are straight white men. For people like us, fear of being silenced or worse is merely an abstraction. We can't BE persecuted by anyone.
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How is it NOT a display of white privilege to mock the idea of "Safe Spaces"? [View all]
Ken Burch
Aug 2016
OP
The professor who did that apologized and resigned. That wasn't a "safe space" issue.
Ken Burch
Aug 2016
#12
Except challenging ideas shuts down ideas counter to the rulers of the university...
scscholar
Aug 2016
#151
You can gain that mental strength without being subjected to delegitimization.
Ken Burch
Aug 2016
#38
It goes without saying that neither of us ever have or ever will experience persecution.
Ken Burch
Aug 2016
#109
every square inch of a college campus is supposed to fit your definition of a safe space.
geek tragedy
Aug 2016
#2
No slurs. No hostility or delitimization An absolute guarantee of no violence.
Ken Burch
Aug 2016
#22
There is nothing OK about punching someone in the face resulting in a bloody nose either in a
Person 2713
Aug 2016
#58
Safe spaces aren't for the priveliged-they're for the powerless, for the dispossessed.
Ken Burch
Aug 2016
#16
Who says someone from a small town, never exposed to gay people....
ProudToBeBlueInRhody
Aug 2016
#18
Not rich, but privileged in the sense that straight male people always have more power
Ken Burch
Aug 2016
#21
If someone possesses the power to exclude, discriminate, segregate and deny physical passage to
Nuclear Unicorn
Aug 2016
#257
Having one bit of "power" in one area does not give you power others do not posess....
bettyellen
Aug 2016
#274
You keep repeating yourself as if that suddenly makes you correct. Lol, nope.
bettyellen
Aug 2016
#278
LBGT and POC have been sheltered from negativity all their lives? Are you fucking joking?
bettyellen
Aug 2016
#258
Yep, you seem blissfully unaware as to why there is a need for safe spaces.
bettyellen
Aug 2016
#263
I want to talk about equality. We NEED equality. At the moment, we're nowhere near it.
Ken Burch
Aug 2016
#26
Sound like you miss the "good old days" when people had less knowledge and understand of social
bettyellen
Aug 2016
#250
Those who complain about PC just wish they can say "N*gger" in polite company. n/t
Humanist_Activist
Aug 2016
#163
You mean like all those men offended by an innocent comment by Rebecca Watson?
Humanist_Activist
Aug 2016
#176
Just an observation of those who complain the loudest about "Political Correctness"...
Humanist_Activist
Aug 2016
#167
Black churches were traditionally thought of as a "safe space" for black Americans. That is until...
Liberal_Stalwart71
Aug 2016
#27
Those 4 little girls who died in the church in the south disagree big time with that.
yeoman6987
Aug 2016
#55
Of course. But even after that tragedy, the black church continues to be an institution for
Liberal_Stalwart71
Aug 2016
#61
Thanks for that. You've described the situation more concisely and effectively than I did.
Ken Burch
Aug 2016
#41
That may have happened, but you weren't going to be drummed out of the service
Ken Burch
Aug 2016
#144
A grope on a buttock is not the equivalent of being beaten up for marching in a parade.
Ken Burch
Aug 2016
#160
Actually, whites are often stopped for travelling through the non-white neighborhoods
Nuclear Unicorn
Aug 2016
#287
Are you not a member of the dominant group deciding whether oppression has been dealt with?
lumberjack_jeff
Aug 2016
#51
All I've "decided" is that I'm NOT entitled to have the last word on the subject.
Ken Burch
Aug 2016
#111
Yep. And a lot of us black DUers have been trying, unsuccessfully, to point this out.
Liberal_Stalwart71
Aug 2016
#71
It is enough to be safe. It is an impossible goal to require that everyone feel safe. n/t
lumberjack_jeff
Aug 2016
#48
Is it the purpose of higher education to equip people to handle adversity?
MsJaneFuzzyWuzzy
Aug 2016
#192
Yep hate is now just a point of view one needs to be comfortable with for freedumb
Person 2713
Aug 2016
#202
Any therapist worth their salt would know that the desire for a "safe space" is not
Dark n Stormy Knight
Aug 2016
#73
Ugh this "authoritarian" bullshit again.... Seriously the resentment toward women and POC here since
bettyellen
Aug 2016
#251
Go bury your head in more Orwell. I'm sure no one has been going after your civil rights ....
bettyellen
Aug 2016
#260
And this person identifies as a teacher , so it is not just students who think verbal abuse is OK
Person 2713
Aug 2016
#203
Are you suggesting I am like this professor because I question the use of safe spaces at colleges?
TeacherB87
Aug 2016
#213
Kids creating safe spaces on college campuses are not doing so because they are being abused.
TeacherB87
Aug 2016
#211
Uhm, safe spaces were CREATED by LGBT and people of color as a means of protection...
Humanist_Activist
Aug 2016
#223
The leader of the Mizzou protests where all this safe space nonsense started
NuclearDem
Aug 2016
#247
"Safe spaces" exist for people who want to turn wider scrutiny of their ideas
NuclearDem
Aug 2016
#81
because you learn to defend your opinion and position by being exposed to different ones.
Warren DeMontague
Aug 2016
#100
you want I should kick your stubby, long-winded, Ipad-ing ass, Warren Demontague?
Skittles
Aug 2016
#104
I think it's important to distinguish bullying/harassment from someone having a different opinion
Warren DeMontague
Aug 2016
#209
Most offices I've known discourage the simple free excange of ideas/argue with those you disagree
Chathamization
Aug 2016
#249
So-called "safe spaces" are a ridiculous notion and the result of overprotective parents and schools
Lee-Lee
Aug 2016
#133
No filters? Of course there are filters. The person looking at the screeen being the biggest one.
The2ndWheel
Aug 2016
#171
I always took safe spaces to be groups, clubs, and discussion forums....
Humanist_Activist
Aug 2016
#162
"but, frankly, most of it is hyperbole from anti-PC "bigots" who hate diversity in general."
NuclearDem
Aug 2016
#168
I'm sorry, that's bullshit, what ideas are labeled as bigotry that aren't actually bigotry?
Humanist_Activist
Aug 2016
#169
Oh my fucking god, really? Rebecca Watson makes a mild complaint about being...
Humanist_Activist
Aug 2016
#174
I'm frankly amazed at the level of tone-deafness you have just posted...
Humanist_Activist
Aug 2016
#185
The FIRST sentence out of that woman's mouth about micro-aggressions was differentiating...
Humanist_Activist
Aug 2016
#187
"What are you?" tends to be mostly aimed at certain types of people. The same with "Where are you
Chathamization
Aug 2016
#255
I would agree that turning a campus into a "safe space" is a misuse of the term...
Humanist_Activist
Aug 2016
#204
Would you apply the same regimen if a progressive group wanted a progressive speaker to appear?
Seeking Serenity
Aug 2016
#220
It depends on whether they express beliefs that attack the existence of people's identities...
Humanist_Activist
Aug 2016
#222
Ok, here's one, not only from someone who was routinely asked to speak at colleges
Seeking Serenity
Aug 2016
#224
And I would apply the same standard as I would to a misogynist. Question is, does she still...
Humanist_Activist
Aug 2016
#225
Wouldn't it be great if real life had a TOS / Jury system where one could alert on language
R. Daneel Olivaw
Aug 2016
#189
I can imagine the howls if I had demanded SAFE SPACE as a gal in the military in the 70's
Skittles
Aug 2016
#214
I listen to POC, LGBTQ people, women, Muslims, other groups subject to abuse and bigotry.
Ken Burch
Aug 2016
#244
What about black folks that make fun of safe spaces, are they're displaying white privilege?
ileus
Aug 2016
#229
Just saying I have seen some lingering resentment and I wonder if it figures into the hostility I
bettyellen
Aug 2016
#273
It may play something of a role, but I don't think it's a direct correlation.
Ken Burch
Aug 2016
#277
I supported Bernie. My point in not using names was to avoid "refighting the primaries".
Ken Burch
Aug 2016
#294
You keep linking to conservative websites to prop up your positions....
Humanist_Activist
Aug 2016
#291
Are you disputing whether or not the assaults occurred or are you just upset someone else noticed?
Nuclear Unicorn
Aug 2016
#293
No. Just no. What those people are doing is not Progressivism. It isn't acceptable.
Nuclear Unicorn
Aug 2016
#292