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Rex

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23. When there own top folks quit and turn against then to the point of advocating how to hide drugs
Thu Aug 11, 2016, 03:11 PM
Aug 2016

if you just a working stiff...you know the agency itself must be worthless.

"DEA couldn't get any dope from Miguel (not his true name) not even a sample. So they charge the poor bastard with a no-dope Conspiracy did you ever hear of anything like that? A parking lot attendant on a no- dope Conspiracy? Then they bring in a DEA expert from Washington to testify that a true Class One doper doesn't give samples. You and I both know that's bullshit, don't we?"

His words flashed me back to an incident I described in The Big White Lie. It was July 4, 1980, and I was in a suite at the Buenos Aires Sheraton, sitting across a table from one of the biggest dopers alive, Hugo Hurtado Candia, as he handed me a one ounce sample of his merchandise ninety-nine percent pure cocaine as a prelude to a huge cocaine deal. The man was part of a cartel that was two weeks away from taking over his whole country.

The lawyer was right: it was pure bullshit, but it was the kind of bullshit I had always been aware of. There's enormous career pressure on street agents to make as many Class One cases as they can, for a simple reason: Federal agencies justify their budgets with statistical reports to Congress and Congress loves to see Class Ones. The agents with the highest percentage of Class Ones are the guys who get money awards and promotions. And over the years the professional rats, who originate more than 95 percent of all drug cases, had learned that selling a Class One to the government was worth a much bigger "reward" payment. A lot of them knew the DEA Agents Manual criteria for a One better than a lot of the agents."

http://www.lectlaw.com/files/cjs13.htm

Kick and rec. n/t ms liberty Aug 2016 #1
Like all bureaucratic entities: Once you establish your fiefdom, you struggle to maintain funding. TheBlackAdder Aug 2016 #63
Grrr. How fucking backward. cali Aug 2016 #2
Yep. babylonsister Aug 2016 #3
What a bunch of buzzkills. kysrsoze Aug 2016 #52
+100 librechik Aug 2016 #67
Idiocracy! GeorgeGist Aug 2016 #4
The DEA has a vested interest in keeping marijuana illegal... Raster Aug 2016 #5
Wouldn't the federal government bring in more tax money on the sale of Marajuana? yeoman6987 Aug 2016 #8
it could potentially... HOWEVER, the DEA is only concerned about maintaining the status quo... Raster Aug 2016 #10
And the status quo is high alcohol taxes scscholar Aug 2016 #53
yes, but the DEA is protecting their own turf. Warren DeMontague Aug 2016 #30
I don't think the DEA should make this decision bluedye33139 Aug 2016 #6
Congress doing something? Calculating Aug 2016 #11
Yes, after a majority of states have legalized cannabis bluedye33139 Aug 2016 #12
it's not 'sneaking' anything. People get medical benefit from it AND people should be able to Warren DeMontague Aug 2016 #31
I have always supported full legalization bluedye33139 Aug 2016 #42
I think the moral point was that one could easily argue to voters that sticking Warren DeMontague Aug 2016 #44
Hence the campaign to sneak cannabis into use as a poorly regulated medicine bluedye33139 Aug 2016 #48
I think we're gonna get there. Warren DeMontague Aug 2016 #49
DEA worried about losing it's funding. Time for an executive order. sarcasmo Aug 2016 #7
God bless Obama for standing up to the pothead wing 6chars Aug 2016 #9
Hillary, to her credit, has come out for rescheduling it to II. Warren DeMontague Aug 2016 #32
that is to her credit 6chars Aug 2016 #34
Nah, she took that position a while back, in the primaries Warren DeMontague Aug 2016 #37
Executive order from whom? The sitting President who appointed the last two Chakab Aug 2016 #16
Many of his appointments have been absolute shit. villager Aug 2016 #51
Hillary? SammyWinstonJack Aug 2016 #56
Cannabis remaining a Schdeule 1 drug is how DEA agents keep their jobs. MohRokTah Aug 2016 #13
What does Hillary think of this issue? Calculating Aug 2016 #14
Her position is that there should be "more research" on marijuana before anything Chakab Aug 2016 #17
I see Calculating Aug 2016 #21
Pretty much. Chakab Aug 2016 #46
to quote the great Upton Sinclair: TheSarcastinator Aug 2016 #15
Fuck the DEA, their own people say it is a horrible organization that needs to go away. Rex Aug 2016 #18
nailed it! thank you and fuck the DEA! N/T wildbilln864 Aug 2016 #20
Fuck the DEA Calculating Aug 2016 #22
When there own top folks quit and turn against then to the point of advocating how to hide drugs Rex Aug 2016 #23
reefer madness at it's highest level spanone Aug 2016 #19
By that logic my Mom's grilled cheese sandwiches should be banned. MindPilot Aug 2016 #24
This is going to come to a head during Clinton's presidency. Egnever Aug 2016 #25
Oregon is having success with legal marijuana, too. Warren DeMontague Aug 2016 #28
Did not intend to leave anyone out Egnever Aug 2016 #61
How likely is it to gain an accepted medical use if it remains enforced by the DEA Johonny Aug 2016 #26
there are multiple ways to reschedule or deschedule it. Congress can do it, the executive can do it Warren DeMontague Aug 2016 #27
Indeed, the DEA doesn't want to lose their status quo. joshcryer Aug 2016 #40
I think if CA legalizes, that alone will force some kind of change. I hope. Warren DeMontague Aug 2016 #43
I forget CA is like the world's second largest economy. joshcryer Aug 2016 #45
they also say it has "no safety level". BULLSHIT. DEA jude Francis Young, 1988: Warren DeMontague Aug 2016 #29
How progressive... PoutrageFatigue Aug 2016 #33
Thanks Obama. aikoaiko Aug 2016 #35
He doesn't Calculating Aug 2016 #36
He's also the one appointing these agency heads that have policy positions that are totally contrary Chakab Aug 2016 #47
"no currently accepted medical use in treatment in the United States," nationalize the fed Aug 2016 #38
Such bullshit. There are plenty of clinical studies that prove the AgadorSparticus Aug 2016 #39
Surprise, administration that gets loads of funding for prohibition wants it to stay. joshcryer Aug 2016 #41
Yeah, I read recently that the last year of alcohol prohibition saw as many raids and arrests as all Warren DeMontague Aug 2016 #68
The DEA guy said it was 'based on science'. Shandris Aug 2016 #50
more like math. Warren DeMontague Aug 2016 #55
Interesting article in High Times SticksnStones Aug 2016 #54
I haven't read HT regularly for a long time Nevernose Aug 2016 #57
Yeah, their site has really evolved technically SticksnStones Aug 2016 #59
Their mistake is assuming Calculating Aug 2016 #64
Agreed, although SticksnStones Aug 2016 #65
Well that would make their jobs obsolete malaise Aug 2016 #58
What do you want to do, take profits away from the Prison Industrial Complex? Oneironaut Aug 2016 #60
fascinating medical research outside the u.s. 6chars Aug 2016 #62
When it comes to illegal drugs, Obama and Clinto need to look at the evidence. Vattel Aug 2016 #66
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