Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

The2ndWheel

(7,947 posts)
30. We don't accept limits
Wed Aug 24, 2016, 12:31 PM
Aug 2016

I doubt any form of life does or would accept them, but we've gotten to the point where we can attempt to control external forces. The lion and zebra battle it out, and whoever is faster wins a particular fight, but it's still an ongoing struggle between the two. We have domesticated certain species, fenced them in, try and control their DNA, strictly for our benefit.

If the zebras could build a wall to keep the lions away, they probably would. If the lions could built a fence to keep all the zebras inside for much easier access, they probably would.

Everything has a cost. We try our best to essentially privatize the profits of the planet for ourselves, and socialize the costs to the rest of life, but it comes at a cost. If we dropped everything, and all went back to hunting and gathering, giving up some control, it would come at a cost.

Our imagination is basically limitless, but we exist in a limited physical reality. We can do quite a bit, but not without some kind of reaction to our action. It's a tough combination. Especially when we try to account for everything. It's not just humans having all that we want, but we also want to save the polar bear, and the whale, and this ecosystem, and that other species, but eradicate this other one, save that other ecosystem, etc, etc,. We want the best of all worlds, but not the downside of any of them.

"Homo stupidius" isn't very long for the planet, methinks. nt villager Aug 2016 #1
We are the cancer of the planet. Simple as that. n/t dixiegrrrrl Aug 2016 #2
Where's Richmond Valentine when you need him? Initech Aug 2016 #8
Agent Smith said we are a virus. eom fleabiscuit Aug 2016 #16
Sister Sledge said we are family. calendargirl Aug 2016 #21
In The Matrix agent Smith offers valid comparisons between viruses and humans Jeffersons Ghost Aug 2016 #25
And unlike a virus, we're not really killing the planet. Frank Cannon Aug 2016 #26
The planet might last; but most life forms will vanish Jeffersons Ghost Aug 2016 #34
so very true. niyad Aug 2016 #5
"It's Nature's way of telling you something's wrong." Listen to this and believe... Jeffersons Ghost Aug 2016 #35
thank you, that is beautiful. niyad Aug 2016 #36
The thing is, we're not stupid The2ndWheel Aug 2016 #22
We just spend way too much time believing our own PR hatrack Aug 2016 #29
We don't accept limits The2ndWheel Aug 2016 #30
For years, the oil companies said the deforestation of the Amazon rain forest was for corn crops. tonyt53 Aug 2016 #3
Changes in Brazilian laws on deforestation are new and increasingly detramental. reread this: Jeffersons Ghost Aug 2016 #24
The deforestation has slowed because the need for more farming land has slowed. tonyt53 Aug 2016 #28
You do a great job of defending deforestation in Brazil, without presenting any links Jeffersons Ghost Aug 2016 #31
One would think the people and government could make Volaris Aug 2016 #4
It could be a result of aristocratic inbreeding, to keep money in a wealthy family Jeffersons Ghost Aug 2016 #33
I'm NOT happy with the deforestation there, but I think... Buckeye_Democrat Aug 2016 #6
Yup. 50-85 % of the planets oxygen comes karadax Aug 2016 #12
Deforestation has been blamed for Brazil's drought Auggie Aug 2016 #17
Well, the oceans aren't in very good shape. Avalux Aug 2016 #23
Capitalism demands constant growth undergroundpanther Aug 2016 #7
Yep. Buckeye_Democrat Aug 2016 #11
true G_j Aug 2016 #19
Civilization demands constant growth The2ndWheel Aug 2016 #20
That's ok, we're ruining our supply of fresh drinking water fast as well. NightWatcher Aug 2016 #9
But what are we going to do about ISIS and radical Islam? tenderfoot Aug 2016 #10
This... Buckeye_Democrat Aug 2016 #14
Ancient cord of coexistence, Hacked by parasitic greedhead scam Warren DeMontague Aug 2016 #13
Stop eating meat. Or limit it. flvegan Aug 2016 #15
The dramatic dot video of population growth. A world map beginning in 1 A.D. with 1 dot = 1 million progree Aug 2016 #18
In happier news, the anus of the planet is also collapsing Orrex Aug 2016 #27
Only wish I could live to see MFM008 Aug 2016 #32
Latest Discussions»General Discussion»The "Lungs of the Pl...»Reply #30