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jberryhill

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69. No one has said that

Fri Aug 26, 2016, 02:49 PM

Aug 2016

But there is also no driving permitted on campus sidewalks, nor need driving be permitted everywhere all of the time.

We do test drivers periodically for proficiency.

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You gave me a D?? BANG! [View all] Photographer Aug 2016 OP

How often has it happened? Marengo Aug 2016 #1

Well, we never had a global thermonuclear war. DetlefK Aug 2016 #5

Thank God for Matthew Broderick! pinboy3niner Aug 2016 #14

University of Arizona-- 3 Nursing School Professors killed October 29, 2002 irishlassie Aug 2016 #46

Was that person a legal Duckhunter935 Aug 2016 #52

yES . All the news stories indicate he was ... etherealtruth Aug 2016 #98

That makes 2 incidents indicated so far in this thread. Did the U of A permit firearms on campus... Marengo Aug 2016 #53

No jberryhill Aug 2016 #60

How many shootings have occurred on campuses that permit firearms, and how many of... Marengo Aug 2016 #65

Good point. We don't, nor should we, all lose our ability to drive because a few will drive drunk. jmg257 Aug 2016 #68

No one has said that jberryhill Aug 2016 #69

Agree - AFAIK, no one called for no driving at all. Yes - like no drunk driving, jmg257 Aug 2016 #71

Even one is too many, yeah? procon Aug 2016 #85

Can you provide a cite or link to where I have made "excuses"? Marengo Aug 2016 #89

That's a weak response. procon Aug 2016 #95

You made a claim, now back it up. Where, specifically, have I made excuses? Marengo Aug 2016 #97

That's terrible. procon Aug 2016 #101

Where have I stated that restrictions are unnecessary. Please provide a citation. Marengo Aug 2016 #107

Why do you think that irrelevant semantics are a valid excuse for gun violence? procon Aug 2016 #112

You are claiming I hold a position that I have not articulated. How can this not be considered... Marengo Aug 2016 #117

I'm still waiting on a cite to where I stated restrictions are unnecessary. Or, do we need to open.. Marengo Aug 2016 #125

Yes, daddy. procon Aug 2016 #127

Please cite where I have stated restrictions are unnecessary, and to where... Marengo Aug 2016 #128

I had to read that twice... beevul Aug 2016 #130

I regret that the absurd irony was not as apparent to you as it was to me; my bad! procon Aug 2016 #138

"I am very encouraged that public safety will be restored." Are you talking Texas campuses, or jmg257 Aug 2016 #141

What is your reasoning why one public venue should be different from another? procon Aug 2016 #146

As the practice seems to be a safe one (at least in Texas), where's the problem? friendly_iconoclast Aug 2016 #149

Where is the human "safety" component? procon Aug 2016 #151

Some people carry/want guns so they can feel safer. Other people don't want jmg257 Aug 2016 #153

Generally I don't. I also think that is the same argument many pro-gunners use. jmg257 Aug 2016 #150

I can't criticise scathingly or otherwise, of a figure who isn't what you say... beevul Aug 2016 #152

Ack... please don't tell me about your penis problems. procon Aug 2016 #154

Ack please dont tell me about your control problems. beevul Aug 2016 #155

Still can't comment on the topic? procon Aug 2016 #157

I was just following your lead. beevul Aug 2016 #159

You may also cite where I have stated I open carry in a public space. Marengo Aug 2016 #158

Well, you've had about an hour. Where's the link or cite I asked for? Marengo Aug 2016 #96

Prof. William Klug, UCLA jberryhill Aug 2016 #59

1987, 1993, & 2002. Anything more recent on campuses that permit firearms, or have for some... Marengo Aug 2016 #61

Why? The point was made and you just cannot accept the facts. Rex Aug 2016 #114

Why not? I like to have as much information as possible before staking out a position... Marengo Aug 2016 #118

Only one of those incidents *may* have involved a person with a permit, per a quick... friendly_iconoclast Aug 2016 #135

And none of them happened where carrying a gun was legal friendly_iconoclast Aug 2016 #143

What will stop it from happening? Nuclear Unicorn Aug 2016 #2

Well, we could make it more difficult for nutjobs to get their hands on guns... Photographer Aug 2016 #4

At the expense of seeming cynical I can't help but wonder if the statement Nuclear Unicorn Aug 2016 #8

Yeah, pretty much. Photographer Aug 2016 #12

I assume you're referring exclusively to my intepretation of the presumed subtext. Nuclear Unicorn Aug 2016 #15

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I made several statements in that post. You declined to make a plain reply. Nuclear Unicorn Aug 2016 #18

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You seem to feel lots of thing but Nuclear Unicorn Aug 2016 #25

Yawns. Photographer Aug 2016 #26

"Yawns." Beyond some fatuous animosity towards people in the ether, sounds like you don't care. Eleanors38 Aug 2016 #77

I think you should apologize Duckhunter935 Aug 2016 #28

too late for that pintobean Aug 2016 #35

Indeed so Duckhunter935 Aug 2016 #47

Because it's the "easily replaced tool" that seems result in so many deaths mythology Aug 2016 #139

"We've proven as a species we can't own them responsibly. " Nuclear Unicorn Aug 2016 #140

"Which is why I refuse to be defenseless in an dangerous world." And which is why I... friendly_iconoclast Aug 2016 #144

The usual refrains are -- Nuclear Unicorn Aug 2016 #147

There's a one-sentence reply for that: "Donald Trump and his supporters" friendly_iconoclast Aug 2016 #148

A big part of the issue is that they are not going away. jmg257 Aug 2016 #145

Just needs to happen once. baldguy Aug 2016 #3

Like pit bull maulings? Nuclear Unicorn Aug 2016 #9

3 vs 30,000 baldguy Aug 2016 #20

Just needs to happen once. Nuclear Unicorn Aug 2016 #24

If it only saves one life... ileus Aug 2016 #33

Saw that comin' linuxman Aug 2016 #39

LOL! Well, that was easy. Marengo Aug 2016 #34

Why is it that RWers always try to deflect & distract with non sequiturs baldguy Aug 2016 #103

"deflect & distract with non sequiturs when their argument goes south?" Nuclear Unicorn Aug 2016 #108

Just as bad. baldguy Aug 2016 #122

I would offer it's authoritarianism. Nuclear Unicorn Aug 2016 #123

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Apparently you've abandoned any discussion of facts in order to hide behind labeling me RW Nuclear Unicorn Aug 2016 #126

The extreme left wing and extreme right wing may meet at anarchy, however... beevul Aug 2016 #129

I knew a few people in college that were so obsessed with their GPAs TexasTowelie Aug 2016 #6

The only grade-obsessed "Bang" I knew of was an offer from a student at U. of Texas... Eleanors38 Aug 2016 #78

Is this thread in reference to something in the news this week? linuxman Aug 2016 #7

A federal judge declined to grant an motion to allow a university in Texas to prohibit Nuclear Unicorn Aug 2016 #10

Oh. Seems like a silly OP then. linuxman Aug 2016 #11

While I absolutely agree with your assessment I't think discussion of opposing views is ever silly. Nuclear Unicorn Aug 2016 #13

NRA schill, eh? Photographer Aug 2016 #19

Yep baldguy Aug 2016 #21

You think advocating for discussion is the mark of a shill? Nuclear Unicorn Aug 2016 #22

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You're very uncivil, you know that? linuxman Aug 2016 #40

No doubt, allowing for only one single possibility is certainly the sign of a disciplined mind LanternWaste Aug 2016 #58

Maybe this ? eppur_se_muova Aug 2016 #70

U of Iowa 25 years ago rurallib Aug 2016 #17

A couple of questions Duckhunter935 Aug 2016 #30

far as I know back then guns were banned on campus rurallib Aug 2016 #43

So you are saying it was a person breaking the law Duckhunter935 Aug 2016 #50

most laws are irrelevant if there is no enforcement rurallib Aug 2016 #102

Who wants to put weapons in the hands Duckhunter935 Aug 2016 #105

damned if I know. I thought that's what you were arguing for. rurallib Aug 2016 #106

I have NEVER argued or even spoke of that Duckhunter935 Aug 2016 #111

back in your first couple of responses rurallib Aug 2016 #113

Of course I accept that apology Duckhunter935 Aug 2016 #115

Oh it certainly can...some people are nuts...under pressure to get good grades. jmg257 Aug 2016 #27

Far to often. Photographer Aug 2016 #31

You earn D's...the instructor doesn't "give" anything. ileus Aug 2016 #32

Gunners encouraging young people to arm up. How'd you like folks legally toting in your classrooms, Hoyt Aug 2016 #36

+1 Person 2713 Aug 2016 #37

hahaha Younemeen Aug 2016 #41

That's Dylan Roof. He murdered 9 people in a church in Charleston, SC Nuclear Unicorn Aug 2016 #42

FU*K! that's already not funny Younemeen Aug 2016 #45

That last image is gross. cyberswede Aug 2016 #55

You may want to ask to poster. He seems up on these guys. Eleanors38 Aug 2016 #79

If that was going to happen michreject Aug 2016 #38

If this is in reference to the decision regarding the Texas Professors, does it really make a Waldorf Aug 2016 #44

No need to make it legal and endorse immoral behavior, which is what NRA and other gunners want. Hoyt Aug 2016 #49

Theres nothing immoral about lawfully and peacably carrying a gun. Nothing. beevul Aug 2016 #86

That's the philosophy of the notorious right wing reactionary, Robert Bork: friendly_iconoclast Aug 2016 #133

Well "gunz are good" is philosophy of Trump and the white wing yahoos that support him. Hoyt Aug 2016 #137

Disapproval, however strongly felt, is not sufficient reason to ban anything friendly_iconoclast Aug 2016 #142

No. But being LEGAL means more people are likely to do it. Adrahil Aug 2016 #51

EXACTLY! Just what we need, a gun store or two popping up next to pizza joints and clubs near Hoyt Aug 2016 #56

I imagine you would get a lot more trouble from the bars nearby than a gun store or two Waldorf Aug 2016 #63

Especially if they go from class to the bar with their gun tucked in their pants. Might be illegal, Hoyt Aug 2016 #73

Apparently a felony...let's hope they learn that one when they get their permit. jmg257 Aug 2016 #74

How about the grow up, and act like an adult by leaving the friggin things at home. Hoyt Aug 2016 #75

In Texas?? Not sure "adult" has much to do with it. The adult legislature passed the law after all. jmg257 Aug 2016 #76

Heh. McBride's Guns is on the edge of U.T.'s West Campus Neighborhood, down the street Eleanors38 Aug 2016 #80

They will be glad of extra gun stores if UBC passes. Added convenience for all the private transfers jmg257 Aug 2016 #84

Probably would be convenient. But that store's stuff is high. Eleanors38 Aug 2016 #90

They look more like a true sportsman store, but customer base still lacks diversity. Hoyt Aug 2016 #88

"Personally," I don't remember me describing it at all. Believe me it's a big store... Eleanors38 Aug 2016 #92

What's the issue with "diversity"? Marengo Aug 2016 #94

I believe the vast majority of gunners, gun profiteers, NRA, etc., are white wingers. Hoyt Aug 2016 #99

How often do you go to the range, gun store, or gun show? How many CCW classes have you attended? Marengo Aug 2016 #100

Ypy are free to post photos, start with a Massad Ayoob graduating class Hoyt Aug 2016 #104

Thats not an answer Hoyt. How about some numbers? How many times? Marengo Aug 2016 #109

Search under "gun shows." Post first few photos that show the croud. Do same for NRA meeting. Hoyt Aug 2016 #116

How many times have YOU visited a shooting range, gun show, or cow permit class? I want numbers. Marengo Aug 2016 #119

Many times in my younger years, the gun nut yahoos became disgusting quickly. They were Hoyt Aug 2016 #120

I'm not the one making any claims, you are. What did you visit many times? How many years... Marengo Aug 2016 #121

This doesn't look like the McBride's store to me. Hangingon Aug 2016 #156

You're slipping. You left out Chuck E Cheeze. beevul Aug 2016 #87

Glad you noticed. Guess that post won't go into your file. Hoyt Aug 2016 #91

File? Its called a brain. beevul Aug 2016 #93

There is plenty of historic precedent. Texas is not the first to allow this on campus hack89 Aug 2016 #57

My wife has had a few students who were nuts... Adrahil Aug 2016 #48

+1 Hekate Aug 2016 #66

Exactly. neeksgeek Aug 2016 #72

It is more likely to "improve" grades. RadiationTherapy Aug 2016 #54

Strange, with all this grade inflation I thought everyone was bordering on Phi Beta Kappa. Eleanors38 Aug 2016 #81

At the local campus of University of California a grad student's thesis was rejected.... Hekate Aug 2016 #62

Its true that some people should just not have (access to) guns...if their state of mind so easily jmg257 Aug 2016 #64

I cannot give a B- in a Grad class... brooklynite Aug 2016 #67

Sounds like a much wider problem than gun laws, howeverwell-meaning, which are easily evaded. Eleanors38 Aug 2016 #83

"I was going to murder you with a gun, but then I remembered they are banned on campus." Throd Aug 2016 #82

Could happen whether it was legal or not to carry on college campuses aikoaiko Aug 2016 #110

I've had a few students who are seriously... a la izquierda Aug 2016 #131

"Do I want them armed? Fuck no." Then arrange for metal detectors where you teach... friendly_iconoclast Aug 2016 #134

You do know that in Texas oneshooter Aug 2016 #136

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