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Glassunion

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23. So, instead should a person of color be expected to or forced for the sake of perceved offence
Mon Aug 29, 2016, 06:24 PM
Aug 2016

to stand up for the national anthem?

Forced respect is an oxymoron.

Should a person of color be expected to stand for a national anthem for a country that currently oppresses people of color? Standing or sitting during the anthem does not make one any more or less an American. Because sometimes it is our duty as Americans to say something that people don't necessarily want to hear or do something that people don't necessarily want to see. This is how change starts.

How much disrespect has been heaved on minority groups in this nation? Have we achieved absolute equality for gender, age, sexual orientation, gender identity, etc.? Depending on what glasses one is born with to view the world, views differ greatly. Yours may be a rose colored pair, where America is all good and great, and deserves unfettered respect, while others have a view that's less savory. They live in a nation where their country does not respect them, and in fact works quite diligently to oppress them. But, they should somehow find respect for something that does not respect them back? I don't think so.

Kaepernick has a stage, he has a voice, and he used it. Hopefully as change for the better. Sure he offended some. Good, now they are paying attention. The more folks who have a voice and a stage speak out, the more people will listen.

There are times and places for overt political statements. Usually they are most effective when they are done when it isn't the time or place.

I happen to have great respect for veterans.... chillfactor Aug 2016 #1
We can disagree on this one malaise Aug 2016 #2
When did sitting down during the national anthem = shitting on America? Glassunion Aug 2016 #4
Do you really think disrespecting the national anthem and flag is going to in any way doc03 Aug 2016 #11
So, instead should a person of color be expected to or forced for the sake of perceved offence Glassunion Aug 2016 #23
+1,000 malaise Aug 2016 #25
always will be heroes in my book heaven05 Aug 2016 #43
How else does he draw attention to it? awoke_in_2003 Aug 2016 #56
Meanwhile, we have a few hundred elected officials.... ProudToBeBlueInRhody Aug 2016 #5
And they're making the most noise malaise Aug 2016 #9
Well, Semper Fi, bro, but I disagree... Wounded Bear Aug 2016 #8
After finding out last year that the DOD paid millions of dollars Laurian Aug 2016 #14
I Disagree. I Am A Vietnam Vet And I Support Him. TheMastersNemesis Aug 2016 #17
how is not standing shitting on the country ? supporting trump is shitting on the country JI7 Aug 2016 #18
exactly!!! niyad Aug 2016 #52
"I have great respect for the men and women that have fought for this country." - Colin Kaepernick KeepItReal Aug 2016 #24
In that case, cut out the bogus patriotism. JackRiddler Aug 2016 #36
Koepenick reorg Aug 2016 #50
Subconsciously, yes. JackRiddler Aug 2016 #65
Hear, hear! smirkymonkey Aug 2016 #58
I believe this is exactly the right that soldiers have fought and died for. GreenEyedLefty Aug 2016 #38
Feel the same MarkEzra Aug 2016 #46
Part of being in a free country (what your generations of Marines fought for) FSogol Aug 2016 #47
I honestly don't get the uproar over this. PoindexterOglethorpe Aug 2016 #3
I'm a veteran and I found it incredibly disrespectful. NuclearDem Aug 2016 #6
Well, this veteran took an oath five times sarge43 Aug 2016 #39
I'm aware of that. NuclearDem Aug 2016 #53
I think Kaepernick has the right to choose True Dough Aug 2016 #7
Very well stated. NaturalHigh Aug 2016 #64
We still have freedom of expression here Warpy Aug 2016 #10
If we lack the option to stand or sit, our country's ideals are empty rhetoric lindysalsagal Aug 2016 #16
At least he's not praying to win games like some people. yortsed snacilbuper Aug 2016 #12
Oh their gawd was all over the malaise Aug 2016 #15
Sorry - don't understand........... MyOwnPeace Aug 2016 #22
Too much is right, can blame Tim Tebow who is now Jim Beard Aug 2016 #57
first world problems.... mike_c Aug 2016 #13
I don't give a fuck about overpaid athletes. cwydro Aug 2016 #19
^^^ THIS ^^^ nt jonno99 Aug 2016 #28
Why is not standing for the anthem disrespectful to veterans? Brickbat Aug 2016 #20
"Quarterback says country is a disaster: Ban him.... babylonsister Aug 2016 #21
There it is. Iggo Aug 2016 #63
Bingo! nt JanMichael Aug 2016 #66
He's done with football anyway. So he had nothing to lose. yeoman6987 Aug 2016 #26
From people shouting "Make America Great Again" vi5 Aug 2016 #27
Well said malaise Aug 2016 #29
This is the sort of bullshit that is grist for the rw AM radio crowd. The_Casual_Observer Aug 2016 #30
i careless whether he sits or stands but,,, Cryptoad Aug 2016 #31
you can be proud of your country Skittles Aug 2016 #32
I was under the impression he was protesting by the way he was playing on the field Travis_0004 Aug 2016 #33
It Is His Right colsohlibgal Aug 2016 #34
Kaep is HONORING the TRUE meaning of what the U.S. flag represents. vkkv Aug 2016 #35
I am FAR more offended by those who think they are the arbiters of what is or is not "pariotism." GoCubsGo Aug 2016 #37
if trump is elected, be this guy spike jones Aug 2016 #40
Thanks. Malaise vlakitti Aug 2016 #41
this person who happens to be an athlete heaven05 Aug 2016 #42
Turning their backs to the flag HockeyMom Aug 2016 #44
It was the right thing to do malaise Aug 2016 #45
Do Jehovah's Witnesses stand for the flag etc. Other groups? shadowmayor Aug 2016 #48
Great post malaise Aug 2016 #49
I worked with a JW woman in public school HockeyMom Aug 2016 #61
I do it every time I say it. One nation, indivisible, and justice for all. It's a 1.5 second pause. JanMichael Aug 2016 #67
Free speech does not mean freedom from consequences. AngryAmish Aug 2016 #51
Freedom = conformity and obedience! moondust Aug 2016 #54
K&R Jeffersons Ghost Aug 2016 #55
LOL malaise Aug 2016 #59
Simplest Possible Solution ProfessorGAC Aug 2016 #60
People fought and killed and died so he would have that right. Iggo Aug 2016 #62
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