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Akicita

(1,196 posts)
44. Obvious we are not on the same page.
Thu Sep 29, 2016, 08:55 PM
Sep 2016

For you to say that "The only actual fear men have is that women won't think the men are dominant and better, so are scared "to death" of being laughed at" is just pure hogwash and shows that you obviously don't have a clue about what men fear. Most men's biggest fear is for the health, safety and well being of their family just like women. Many fear they will not be able to keep or get the woman they love, fear they may lose their livelihood in the next downturn, fear they are not raising their children right, fear they are not saving enough for retirement. Some men fear they will get caught cheating or caught stealing or committing some other criminal act or that their children may get into trouble. Way down the list, if even on the list, for the vast majority of men is the fear that a woman might laugh at him. Yet you state that is their only actual fear.

Do you really think that a man who is sitting by his daughter's hospital bed while she fights for her life from an accident or disease has only one actual fear and that is that some woman might walk in to the room and laugh at him? Just absurd. There are dregs of society everywhere and if there are men whose only fear is being laughed at by a woman who doesn't think men are dominant, they certainly qualify as dregs. But I guarantee you they are atypical. If you live in an area where all the men seem like that then my advice to you is get the hell out of there. I sure wouldn't want to live in a community like that. I've never seen a community like that.

If you look at your actuarial stats, you'll find that for women ages 18-44, homicide is responsible for less than 4% of deaths. Although I would guess that most of these homicides are committed by men, women do kill women so the chances of a woman getting killed by a man is even less. Of course even one is one too many. Looking at that same actuarial data you are so fond of, homicide is responsible for over 11% of deaths for men in that same age group. Again, I think we can assume that men are doing the vast majority of the killing. So based on the data, men should have a much, much, greater fear of being killed by a man than a woman should be. Almost a three times greater fear.

Hitler was not all that atypical. History is replete with madmen who take power and then have their countries or kingdoms commit horrible acts against other peoples and their own people. Stalin, Mao, Hirohito, Pol Pot, to name a few of the more recent ones. The vast majority of citizens in all those countries were decent people who just wanted to live their lives but instead got caught up in the propaganda and nationalism of the dictator.

Are men actually afraid women (or anyone) will laugh at them though? Loki Liesmith Sep 2016 #1
Deeply so Warpy Sep 2016 #10
Are you sure about that? Seems like you hear of more girls who commit suicide from being laughed at Akicita Sep 2016 #46
Men are more likely to kill someone who laughs at them, not themselves. nt tblue37 Oct 2016 #56
I stopped caring when I was 17 or so. nt Francis Booth Sep 2016 #16
+1 deathrind Sep 2016 #51
Margaret Atwood is one of my favorite authors. guillaumeb Sep 2016 #2
she has long been one of my favouriites. niyad Sep 2016 #3
It is a somewhat older article. guillaumeb Sep 2016 #5
What you need is a man to explain to you why that's wrong. Orrex Sep 2016 #4
ah, yes, of course. if only. . . . niyad Sep 2016 #6
K&R for a classic. Brickbat Sep 2016 #7
K & R SunSeeker Sep 2016 #8
Great Quote. sheshe2 Sep 2016 #9
Was Atwood refering to a Middle Eastern culture? The men and women I know don't typically go through Akicita Sep 2016 #11
there is plenty of dmoestic abuse in this country and all over the world Fast Walker 52 Sep 2016 #12
That's *different* though ck4829 Sep 2016 #18
was hoping that was sarcasm Fast Walker 52 Sep 2016 #27
True. But if you asked typical men and women to list the top ten things they fear I think being Akicita Sep 2016 #20
That's so cute! REP Sep 2016 #31
Thank you so much. Akicita Sep 2016 #47
The statement is "archetypal", and you somehow confused that descriptive word with "atypical". Mc Mike Sep 2016 #42
Obvious we are not on the same page. Akicita Sep 2016 #44
It's fair to say we're not on the same page. Mc Mike Sep 2016 #49
Nice try trying to put words in my mouth. Nowhere did I state that people think they are more likely Akicita Sep 2016 #50
No. I wasn't trying to put words in your mouth. Mc Mike Oct 2016 #53
"I know what she went through" annabanana Oct 2016 #55
Sandra Fluke, not Sandra Bland. Bland died for failing to show sufficient submission tblue37 Oct 2016 #57
Thank you, tblue. Corrected. Mc Mike Oct 2016 #58
Or a sign that shows there are so many outrages and abuses that it gets hard to tblue37 Oct 2016 #62
When Alton Sterling and Philando Castile got murdered, I had to write Mc Mike Oct 2016 #63
Excellent post. annabanana Oct 2016 #54
Thanks, & you're welcome, anna. nt. Mc Mike Oct 2016 #64
+1000 smirkymonkey Oct 2016 #59
Thanks, nt. Mc Mike Oct 2016 #65
A young lady I was steady with when we were 16-21 ended up marrying a Middle Eastern man. Francis Booth Sep 2016 #17
I have a similar story, though as probability would indicate, the husband was a white, Christian mal LanternWaste Sep 2016 #22
Bastards come in all flavors, I guess. Francis Booth Sep 2016 #25
I too pretend to know what the men and women I know are thinking as well. LanternWaste Sep 2016 #21
You and the op apparently Egnever Sep 2016 #24
The OP is not Margaret Atwood. The OP quoted Margaret Atwood. REP Sep 2016 #32
Are you directing that comment at me or the person who pretends to know that women fear being killed Akicita Sep 2016 #48
It is not the fears that are logical or expressed. smirkymonkey Oct 2016 #61
"Perhaps both should stop living in fear." Shandris Sep 2016 #13
For women, that's not really a safe approach to life Patiod Sep 2016 #41
As a woman, I see the truth in this quote. mountain grammy Sep 2016 #14
+1 Betty88 Sep 2016 #19
I am a man and I get it 100%. JanMichael Sep 2016 #26
so does my husband mountain grammy Sep 2016 #33
So do I. To be honest, men terrify me. I don't want to think this way, smirkymonkey Sep 2016 #45
After hearing this, a man tried to Ilsa Sep 2016 #15
correct Skittles Sep 2016 #23
witness some of the replies in this thread alone. niyad Sep 2016 #28
. . . niyad Sep 2016 #29
More than anything, ronnie624 Sep 2016 #30
I was always the anti-male, which earned me quite a bit of bullying Francis Booth Sep 2016 #43
Sorry to hear that. I don't think this hyper-masculine culture is good for smirkymonkey Oct 2016 #60
Thanks - funnily enough, my son turned out exactly as I was; shy, Francis Booth Oct 2016 #66
nearly every woman will tell you that they dont like to go out alone at night. mopinko Sep 2016 #34
and yet, we have people on this thread alone denying the reality of women's existence. niyad Sep 2016 #35
i know. mopinko Sep 2016 #36
I do understand!! niyad Sep 2016 #37
"fight back"--holly near niyad Sep 2016 #38
we need that post like button. mopinko Sep 2016 #39
you are most welcome niyad Sep 2016 #40
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