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Hortensis

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6. Over the past few decades people have been separating out
Wed Nov 16, 2016, 02:52 PM
Nov 2016

ideologically geographically, a majority literally choosing to move to specifically liberal or conservative areas.

We've, of course, also been separating socially as never before courtesy of the internet. The days are mostly gone when local societies developed group attitudes and mores that had a strong cumulative effect on their thinking. Political bigotry is stronger than ever, and revealing one's orientation has gotten a lot of people fired, so even more workplaces are separated out.

All a way of saying, if we want to fight the evil forces on the right, we first of all have to stay connected with those we know and maintain good relationships so that we may be able to influence them, if only to remind them that nice people can disagree.

As we are all appalled to know, the political belief systems required to vote Republican these days are almost entirely built on lies. Lies that have gotten so outrageous that sustaining their beliefs requires them to avoid not just virtually all honest information sources but also the evidence of their own eyes and even the teachings of their religions.

We thought this was the election the leaders lost their committed support. No. It was the election that proved beyond any doubt that their commitment to their political leaders now trumps all previous commitments to decency, morals, intellect, even religion. A scary and dangerous reality; but perhaps holding the door open, not slamming it on them, will hasten the day when enough finally do turn on their evil leaders and push them out of power. We don't need all that many to turn away for it to happen.

I have never felt so alone in all my life. [View all] Are_grits_groceries Nov 2016 OP
I feel your pain. I haven't logged onto Facebook or Twitter since 11/8. I'm so sorry you are catbyte Nov 2016 #1
I hear you. I'm sorry. I have a Trumpkin brother, too. mnhtnbb Nov 2016 #2
You've got us. herding cats Nov 2016 #3
"Butternut turd" works for me.... Wounded Bear Nov 2016 #4
Works for me too. Auntie Bush Nov 2016 #53
Hugs! We are all together in this. McCamy Taylor Nov 2016 #5
Over the past few decades people have been separating out Hortensis Nov 2016 #6
Well said but easier said than done. hay rick Nov 2016 #44
Much the same here. The constant low-grade nausea Hortensis Nov 2016 #54
I am so glad you mentioned the low grade nausea...thought I was the only one. dixiegrrrrl Nov 2016 #67
Deep South here too, Dixiegrrrl, and virtually no yard signs, Hortensis Nov 2016 #75
you assume there will be free and fair elections in the future. Fascists do not, however, KingCharlemagne Nov 2016 #76
We've never been here before, but that also means Hortensis Nov 2016 #79
"Will stories of tens, perhaps hundreds, of thousands of people . . . " -- assumes we KingCharlemagne Nov 2016 #82
Happy birthday wryter2000 Nov 2016 #7
Yup. I have DU friends but no one else. In_The_Wind Nov 2016 #8
I'm there too Bettie Nov 2016 #9
"Butternut Turd": Ben & Jerry, take note! Beartracks Nov 2016 #10
... Afromania Nov 2016 #11
I'm relieved about one thing. mountain grammy Nov 2016 #12
My husband's brother Freddie Nov 2016 #23
... Sophiegirl Nov 2016 #26
Had a friend die suddenly on the 4th dhol82 Nov 2016 #36
Sigh MountainMama Nov 2016 #93
I'm so sorry. mountain grammy Nov 2016 #42
you wonder if the Reich in Germany bdamomma Nov 2016 #13
Yes, some of them did. SharonAnn Nov 2016 #27
The US didn't take him seriously right away loyalsister Nov 2016 #43
Just a suggestion bdamomma Nov 2016 #81
Thanks for the tips loyalsister Nov 2016 #90
it starts at the grassroots level bdamomma Nov 2016 #100
Yes, they did. Read "Defying Hitler" by Sebastian Haffner. nt Nay Nov 2016 #78
I have been really depressed. leftyladyfrommo Nov 2016 #14
I live in a heavy rump area, but luckily no family logosoco Nov 2016 #15
Happy birthday!! gypsy11 Nov 2016 #16
I'm disowning my Trump voting sisters. ErikJ Nov 2016 #17
My first post since coming back. I'm sorry and I understand. There is so much rage. nolabear Nov 2016 #18
Hugs Grits. Courage. mahina Nov 2016 #19
I understand. GoCubsGo Nov 2016 #20
Same situation here, AND we're here together/not alone. n/t UTUSN Nov 2016 #21
i've got about 35% I'd say, barbtries Nov 2016 #22
Aw, grits Hekate Nov 2016 #24
Ha ha Roy Rolling Nov 2016 #25
Made me spit out my tea!! MontanaMama Nov 2016 #28
Family on both sides are Trumpists. Chalco Nov 2016 #29
Most of my stupid-assed relatives are Trump-etts Plucketeer Nov 2016 #30
There have been days when I'm not sure how, or why, I got out of bed Siwsan Nov 2016 #31
I feel the same... Freedomofspeech Nov 2016 #61
Sorry about the timing of your birthday. Wishing you a better rest of the year! deurbano Nov 2016 #32
I never talk politics mainstreetonce Nov 2016 #33
That's hard malaise Nov 2016 #34
All of my in-laws are republicans Mosby Nov 2016 #35
I lost an associate bordering on friend of 20 years heaven05 Nov 2016 #37
I agree with you OP MFM008 Nov 2016 #38
I feel alone but for a different reason Lulu KC Nov 2016 #39
Here's the book -- "Defying Hitler" by Sebastian Haffner. It describes the exact Nay Nov 2016 #77
Thank you! Lulu KC Nov 2016 #94
Could not put it down Lulu KC Nov 2016 #101
It feels like it but you aren't alone... Phentex Nov 2016 #40
Making plans to deal with my family mtngirl47 Nov 2016 #41
I'm all alone too hibbing Nov 2016 #45
I feel you! lark Nov 2016 #46
(((Hugs))) LiberalLoner Nov 2016 #47
Trumpkins is too nice a word. Makes them sound cute CanonRay Nov 2016 #48
I prefer Trumpanzees meow2u3 Nov 2016 #49
I have named our new king Trumpenfuror wordpix Nov 2016 #97
K and R for Butternut Turd. panader0 Nov 2016 #50
Hug shenmue Nov 2016 #51
I am sorry Dorian Gray Nov 2016 #52
You're not alone ailsagirl Nov 2016 #55
So sorry grits mcar Nov 2016 #56
You're not alone. Cried on Monday explaining to sinkingfeeling Nov 2016 #57
You do not have to be specific , but where in general do you plan to go after the sale if I may ask? lunasun Nov 2016 #59
Ireland for summers and southern Italy in winter. sinkingfeeling Nov 2016 #60
I love Trulli s in Puglia not far from Bari . Arbebello Check it out sometime . Happy Trails lunasun Nov 2016 #65
so---why are you crying, again? wordpix Nov 2016 #98
fuck that Skittles Nov 2016 #73
don't leave, this ain't over til it's over and there are lots of people wordpix Nov 2016 #96
Happy Birthday Happy Birthday to You lunasun Nov 2016 #58
Bullshit, you're not alone SCantiGOP Nov 2016 #62
I'm in the same boat with you. Different Drummer Nov 2016 #63
my sister and her family ALL LOVE TRUMP trueblue2007 Nov 2016 #64
I can relate. emmadoggy Nov 2016 #66
Your friends and family do not accurately represent the whole country, BootinUp Nov 2016 #68
We are all together Old Terp Nov 2016 #69
Happy Birthday!!! C Moon Nov 2016 #70
If you could stand to re-activate your FB account pnwmom Nov 2016 #71
Thanks! Are_grits_groceries Nov 2016 #72
I'm sorry. I'm also thankful that my only sibling who I regularly see... Buckeye_Democrat Nov 2016 #74
I know it's hard, but the day will come when they all call you and say you were right. Vinca Nov 2016 #80
I feel you on that treestar Nov 2016 #83
I offer my heartfelt condolences. It is very sad to see friends abandon good values like that. Nitram Nov 2016 #84
My 19 year old niece from Missouri called me in tears last night. MontanaMama Nov 2016 #85
glad your niece reached out wordpix Nov 2016 #99
I'm married to a Trumpkin Rorey Nov 2016 #86
We dropped everyone in the Trump-pa-pa band. Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2016 #87
That describes my brothers left-of-center2012 Nov 2016 #88
All I'll add is the following: calimary Nov 2016 #89
I am standing up to local repukes in court - I've had it with them wordpix Nov 2016 #95
He who gloats last wins lunatica Nov 2016 #91
My sympathy, grits. I luckily have lots of Dem fam and friends wordpix Nov 2016 #92
I feel your pain. I'm in the same state. nt raccoon Nov 2016 #102
i had forgotten the word quisling dembotoz Nov 2016 #103
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