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91. There is a method to the madness - artlcle

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Mon Nov 28, 2016, 12:58 PM

Nov 2016

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"Tony Schwartz, Trump’s ghostwriter for his Art of the Deal best-seller that was the basis for his reality TV show “The Apprentice,” answered Trump’s Sunday tweets with: “Trump loses it whenever he feels vulnerable, which is often. Must recognize reality: We have a president-elect who is mentally unbalanced.”

And Evan McMullin, a Republican who ran as an independent candidate, responded to Trump’s “millions” of illegal votes tweet with the warning: “It should not go unrecognized that @realDonaldTrump’s effort to inflate his election performance without cause is typical of autocrats.”

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Saying What Must Be Said: The President-Elect is MENTALLY ILL [View all] KingCharlemagne Nov 2016 OP

He is starting at the point Nixon ended exboyfil Nov 2016 #1

One of my favorite high school teachers developed Alzheimers before KingCharlemagne Nov 2016 #2

Both grandparents on my dad's side exboyfil Nov 2016 #6

We don't want him to make it to day one. Once he is in office we will end up with Pres Penc Maraya1969 Nov 2016 #172

He's the only thing standing between us and a full on Christian Taliban regime. MadamPresident Nov 2016 #3

This Calculating Nov 2016 #8

No actually MFM008 Nov 2016 #85

I agree, I think Pence is controllable womanofthehills Nov 2016 #97

r u implyng tht kellyann is a smoh taker? pangaia Nov 2016 #145

I don't know if he is "controllable" or not, but if they was an effort to remove trump still_one Nov 2016 #176

My sentiments, exactly... Pence is sane whathehell Nov 2016 #128

I'm not so sure. Pence is a Nazi bigot of the highest order... he scares the living shit out of me! InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2016 #130

I don't see Pence leading an overtly brutal fascist takeover of the country Fast Walker 52 Nov 2016 #183

The Electoral College can choose to seat whomever it KingCharlemagne Nov 2016 #9

They're not going to do that. MadamPresident Nov 2016 #111

the guy is a scumbag... berksdem Nov 2016 #126

...or the US military. roamer65 Nov 2016 #171

You are right, they aren't going to do it. Trump is not an idiot, but he is an evil asshole, and still_one Nov 2016 #177

Welcome to DU, MadamPresident. calimary Nov 2016 #154

Welcome to the Democratic Underground MadamPresident CountAllVotes Nov 2016 #178

But Trump's meanness is hardly new. LisaM Nov 2016 #4

Makes me wonder how the Secret Service exboyfil Nov 2016 #10

George Bush was a "decent guy" who mimicked a woman on Death Row pleading for her life. Nitram Nov 2016 #135

I actually meant exboyfil Nov 2016 #139

Ah. Then I agree. Herbert Walker was in a different league than his son. Nitram Nov 2016 #180

He is definitely not stable. I fear what's going to happen. Initech Nov 2016 #5

I've been suspecting for a long time that Trump has a mild form of schizophrenia. DetlefK Nov 2016 #7

My Mom was diagnosed paranoid schizophrenic and some of Trump's recent KingCharlemagne Nov 2016 #12

I think it's more likely that he's ADHD and narcissistic. Nitram Nov 2016 #136

Adding illiterate, and lacking any compassion, I would agree. lindysalsagal Nov 2016 #149

I'll see your illiteracy and lack of compassion and pass. Nitram Nov 2016 #181

Undiagnosed or hidden for 50 yrs? loyalsister Nov 2016 #150

He is so narsisstic that he Doreen Nov 2016 #173

Oh no. CBS is making too much off the mouthy jackass to ignore or shut him up CousinIT Nov 2016 #11

I woke up this morning to the news and commentary about yesterday's Tweet-storm and KingCharlemagne Nov 2016 #16

I felt the same way - like OMG his mental stability is worse than I thought womanofthehills Nov 2016 #117

I have always thought he was more emotionally disturbed than mentally, but I don't know much world wide wally Nov 2016 #13

Nutter works. lonestarnot Nov 2016 #15

Yeah, me neither. And after Bill Frist's remote diagnostic debacle, I am KingCharlemagne Nov 2016 #18

That's because he's actually a fictional character... Blanks Nov 2016 #33

"but Trump doesn't have the monopoly on crazy." Perseus Nov 2016 #88

They control the media... Blanks Nov 2016 #101

good post, and good points Fast Walker 52 Nov 2016 #166

It seems there are a combination of things going on. It ranges from childlike to incoherent, to RKP5637 Nov 2016 #37

his refusal to take intelligence briefings or state dept advice mopinko Nov 2016 #14

He gets his intelligence briefings from Russia world wide wally Nov 2016 #21

It's as if he can't process that he IS the government now ToxMarz Nov 2016 #22

yup. mopinko Nov 2016 #81

He Has No Concept RobinA Nov 2016 #109

He has traded on his inherited money and his father's reputation to build a con man's ability... Nitram Nov 2016 #134

No political ideology bdamomma Nov 2016 #157

The DSM-IV Diagnostic Criteria for Narcissistic Personality Disorder are: Little Star Nov 2016 #17

Hmm, that's very interesting. Did the criteria change in any significant way with KingCharlemagne Nov 2016 #20

Yes, classic case of narcissism. I'd even say an extreme case Roland99 Nov 2016 #75

A Narcissist cannot have Dementia too? HockeyMom Nov 2016 #90

And remember the debates womanofthehills Nov 2016 #100

You have captured this feeling of discomfiture far better than I could ever hope KingCharlemagne Nov 2016 #188

The DSM-5 criteria for Antisocial Personality Disorder are even better jmowreader Nov 2016 #119

There's no real way to use this to block his election by the EC. MineralMan Nov 2016 #19

OMG, thank you so much for your gracious annotation. I have now edited KingCharlemagne Nov 2016 #25

Mentally ill? Depends on the definition being used. MineralMan Nov 2016 #44

Just out of curiosity, do you happen to remember the specific historical context KingCharlemagne Nov 2016 #56

It's fairly complex, and depends on which section you're talking about. MineralMan Nov 2016 #65

I wondered if Eisenhower's medical problems as president had been a motivator. I"m not KingCharlemagne Nov 2016 #68

Actually, the concern probably started with FDR. MineralMan Nov 2016 #70

My understanding is that it actually started with Woodrow Wilson. cab67 Nov 2016 #94

His wife Edith took messages in and out of his sickroom to such an extent ... Hekate Nov 2016 #120

Thanks for that information. I had forgotten Wilson. MineralMan Nov 2016 #190

I remember reading somewhere, althogh I'll be damned if I can remember where exactly, that KingCharlemagne Nov 2016 #189

FDR was the reason for pres. term limits and Wilson & FDR inspired the disability clause. Yo_Mama Nov 2016 #118

He did. MADem Nov 2016 #162

Why would it be unlikely? treestar Nov 2016 #142

The VP elect and so far all of the Cabinet candidates are also nuts ThoughtCriminal Nov 2016 #127

Nixon thought he was OK because there were enough republicans in congress... Blanks Nov 2016 #39

The Cabinet can remove him. 25th Amendment. Keith Olbermann KittyWampus Nov 2016 #43

The problem is he appointed the cabbinet, and he is their only chance for the job. Nitram Nov 2016 #76

The Cabinet is full of HIS loons. They don't want to vote themselves out of a job. nt MADem Nov 2016 #163

yes, he's either a psychopath or Javaman Nov 2016 #23

Dark Triad sounds about right... good find Fast Walker 52 Nov 2016 #184

oddly, I just found this... Javaman Nov 2016 #187

holy crap, that is creepy as shit Fast Walker 52 Nov 2016 #198

This is so fucking insulting. Act_of_Reparation Nov 2016 #24

Mental illness would explain delusional thinking, not why Trump was and is so hateful. But KingCharlemagne Nov 2016 #27

Because neurotypical people are never delusional, right? Act_of_Reparation Nov 2016 #35

I have a Les Paul knockoff (by Epiphone) but reasonable KingCharlemagne Nov 2016 #38

A neurotypical person displays typical neurological development. Act_of_Reparation Nov 2016 #41

Wow Why are you so nasty? classykaren Nov 2016 #51

I think everyone here is a little on edge right now, no matter what they KingCharlemagne Nov 2016 #60

Because I don't like being stigmatized. Act_of_Reparation Nov 2016 #98

You are being extremely defensive, and lashing out at someone who is being kind in response. Hekate Nov 2016 #121

No, it's not about me. Act_of_Reparation Nov 2016 #124

This message was self-deleted by its author Skittles Nov 2016 #141

1 progressoid Nov 2016 #30

I agree. Mr.Bill Nov 2016 #31

Agree 100%. But has he exhibibited signs of delusional thinking before KingCharlemagne Nov 2016 #34

Perhaps a lifelong asshole... Zoonart Nov 2016 #57

I am so sorry to hear about your father's decline and passing. I have never had any KingCharlemagne Nov 2016 #67

THANK YOU Zoonart Nov 2016 #71

Is the very behavior of being a self-absorbed asshole "neurotypical?" MADem Nov 2016 #62

Yes. Act_of_Reparation Nov 2016 #93

But I am not making mental illness "a convenient scapegoat for any and all bad behavior." MADem Nov 2016 #125

Yeah. Wow. That's fascinating. Act_of_Reparation Nov 2016 #131

That's not what I said, but it's obvious that you want to be confrontational with MADem Nov 2016 #137

Not that it really matters, but that's not even Dark n Stormy Knight Nov 2016 #169

Indeed--and the facial expression of JS is icing on the Slow Clap cake! nt MADem Nov 2016 #170

I agree a risk to himself and a RISK to others. bdamomma Nov 2016 #158

I wish the Electoral College would take a hard look. The man is not stable. nt MADem Nov 2016 #161

Agree!!! And people wonder why Mental Illness has a stigma... RAFisher Nov 2016 #92

If you read the DSM, Trump is definitely mentally ill - he has them all womanofthehills Nov 2016 #105

The DSM doesn't make you a psychologist any more than WebMD makes you a doctor. Act_of_Reparation Nov 2016 #186

1 BainsBane Nov 2016 #143

I don't think he's mentally ill. Baitball Blogger Nov 2016 #26

A cult and a coup! I think there's an awful lot going on, manipulative, power grabbers, RKP5637 Nov 2016 #40

That's a good point and, if true, gives him credit for being a very crafty KingCharlemagne Nov 2016 #52

He did the same thing with the birther issue. Baitball Blogger Nov 2016 #53

Trump has spent his entire life manipulating people for his own purposes radical noodle Nov 2016 #103

manipulation bdamomma Nov 2016 #182

I don't see how anyone can say this guy is not a screaming narcissist womanofthehills Nov 2016 #106

His reactivity is a big sign of a personality disorder womanofthehills Nov 2016 #112

It's no wonder he has to have his kids with him all of the time to help him understand events and to RKP5637 Nov 2016 #28

Those who surround him are following his power but think they can control his madness Hekate Nov 2016 #122

Interesting about the "whispery voice." Bohunk68 Nov 2016 #185

Not until there is a DX loyalsister Nov 2016 #29

Yeah, I debated whether to publish this today, not wishing to add to KingCharlemagne Nov 2016 #32

No need to delete anything. Mr.Bill Nov 2016 #42

Thanks for asking, but it's your decision loyalsister Nov 2016 #114

This n/t BREMPRO Nov 2016 #66

Men in White Suits bucolic_frolic Nov 2016 #36

You think? hamsterjill Nov 2016 #45

Yeah, I'm aware that I'm hardly the first person to voice such concerns. Something about KingCharlemagne Nov 2016 #191

Sorry, I wasn't trying to be snarky! hamsterjill Nov 2016 #193

The development of a logically flawed argument (the classic false dilemma): Buzz Clik Nov 2016 #46

So you think there really were millions of illegal votes? KingCharlemagne Nov 2016 #47

Yes, that is exactly what I said. Buzz Clik Nov 2016 #99

Strictly speaking, he's not mentally ill Boomer Nov 2016 #48

Thank you for that distinction. Not being a professional, I lack a lot of the vocaulary KingCharlemagne Nov 2016 #49

Damn right something isn't quite right Boomer Nov 2016 #54

Good Description RobinA Nov 2016 #113

another response to this:Democrats should take off the gag about GOP vote suppression & vote rigging yurbud Nov 2016 #50

he has to be get the red out Nov 2016 #55

Never met Donald Trump and lack the saltpoint Nov 2016 #58

That's pretty astute. Makes one wonder how the Cuban Missile Crisis would KingCharlemagne Nov 2016 #63

A frightening scenario -- the Cold War roiling saltpoint Nov 2016 #64

tRump's father had Alzheimer's and suffered for 6 years before he died Thekaspervote Nov 2016 #59

Wow! Now that I did not know before now, which means I've learned KingCharlemagne Nov 2016 #61

I wish people would stop diagnosing Trump. PoindexterOglethorpe Nov 2016 #69

Yeah, I readily take your point. I hesitated before publishing this and KingCharlemagne Nov 2016 #194

Dementia runs in his family. Historic NY Nov 2016 #72

Step 1 - Have a press who doesn't ignore the obvious - It's almost like they Laura PourMeADrink Nov 2016 #73

Well, there's an example of that going on right here on DU. hamsterjill Nov 2016 #80

It's a small distinction - mental illness or personality disorder womanofthehills Nov 2016 #107

My take exactly. Nitram Nov 2016 #74

Understand How He Thinks RobinA Nov 2016 #116

Very true that Trump hates to lose, especially to a girl. Nitram Nov 2016 #132

The Bill Fristian-style over-the-internet diagnoses made by educated experts LanternWaste Nov 2016 #77

Mentally ill or not, he's saying this to counterbalance the clear evidence of election fraud. byronius Nov 2016 #78

I read somewhere about a professor using him as a case study for narcissistic personality disorder. Vinca Nov 2016 #79

He's a narcissist nini Nov 2016 #82

MY wife & I have been saying he's ill since last year.. why it's not absolutely clear to vkkv Nov 2016 #83

i've been saying this for months. barbtries Nov 2016 #84

if it really is alzheimers, as so many suspect, many based on up close knowledge mopinko Nov 2016 #86

You get a full physical and a tox screen to be an E-1 in the military--you'd think the Commander MADem Nov 2016 #138

Coping with Chaos in the White House elleng Nov 2016 #87

Republicans wanted an unfit, ill person in the presidents chair. So easy to dupe a dummy in a bubble Sunlei Nov 2016 #89

There is a method to the madness - artlcle blueseas Nov 2016 #91

I don't buy your armchair diagnosis Politicub Nov 2016 #95

I'm definitely not qualified, other than from family experience, and that's hardly KingCharlemagne Nov 2016 #195

Trump's entire campaign has been disquieting Politicub Nov 2016 #196

I can easily see Trump becoming a liability. cab67 Nov 2016 #96

He qualifies bdamomma Nov 2016 #102

I know a lot of people who are intellectually lazy loyalsister Nov 2016 #147

You know, a lot of people have mental illness BainsBane Nov 2016 #104

K&R bdamomma Nov 2016 #108

Trump is very unstable and is not fit to be POTUS Gothmog Nov 2016 #110

Mad King Donald in his golden tower, raving at the "unfairness" of it all.... Hekate Nov 2016 #115

Dr Hahn - she sure describes Trump in her videos womanofthehills Nov 2016 #123

You're correct n/t deek Nov 2016 #129

King Lear Dream Girl Nov 2016 #133

The Candidate: What do I do now?? Angry Dragon Nov 2016 #140

Pence still scares me more than Trump rollin74 Nov 2016 #144

I wish I had a dollar for every time I said that Sugarcoated Nov 2016 #146

You're describing my 80 year old mother: lindysalsagal Nov 2016 #148

Rec #100 malaise Nov 2016 #151

He could have this too. bdamomma Nov 2016 #152

Looks like dementia to me itsrobert Nov 2016 #153

He looks like a chimp. AngryAmish Nov 2016 #155

A diagnosis is besides the point, it is his ACTIONS that matter. Barack_America Nov 2016 #156

He doesn't suffer mental illness Generic Brad Nov 2016 #159

I thought that would be obvious to anyone that wasn't mentally ill doc03 Nov 2016 #160

Trump is a narcissist and most likely a sociopath as well Martin Eden Nov 2016 #164

I feel like Trump did what GW Bush did ... CaptainTruth Nov 2016 #165

Rob Reiner agrees with you DesertRat Nov 2016 #167

Trump's father had Alzheimer's, FYI. Liberty Belle Nov 2016 #168

Agree. But it is probably a personality disorder. McCamy Taylor Nov 2016 #174

Naw kebob Nov 2016 #175

I don't know about mental illness Dorian Gray Nov 2016 #179

So, what do we think about the people that elected him... Stellar Nov 2016 #192

That is a damned good question. I think 1/2 are what Hillary diplomatically KingCharlemagne Nov 2016 #197

Kicking for updates from the past 24 hours - nt KingCharlemagne Jan 2017 #199