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Mon Nov 28, 2016, 09:10 PM Nov 2016

NYTimes: Donald Trumps Lies About the Popular Vote [View all]

One big fear in the weeks leading up to the presidential election was that Donald Trump would try to delegitimize the results by claiming rampant voter fraud — a bogus specter he had raised throughout the campaign, particularly as his polling numbers got worse.

In that scenario, of course, Mr. Trump was the loser. No one imagined he would say the election was rigged if he won. And yet here we are.

On Sunday, President-elect Trump unleashed a barrage of tweets complaining about calls for recounts or vote audits in several closely contested states, and culminating in this message: “In addition to winning the Electoral College in a landslide, I won the popular vote if you deduct the millions of people who voted illegally.”


This is a lie, part of Mr. Trump’s pattern, stretching back many years, of disregard for indisputable facts. There is no evidence of illegal voting on even a small scale anywhere in the country, let alone a systematic conspiracy involving “millions.” But this is the message that gets hammered relentlessly by right-wing propaganda sites like InfoWars, which is run by a conspiracy theorist who claims the Sandy Hook school massacre was a hoax — and whose absurdities Mr. Trump has often shouted through his megaphone, which will shortly bear the presidential seal. Mr. Trump added more fuel to the fire with the false claim of “serious voter fraud” in California, Virginia and New Hampshire — all states that went for Hillary Clinton.

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Now they're calling him on his lies malaise Nov 2016 #1
They started off this morning with the statement that "he was claiming it without proof". Now they still_one Nov 2016 #2
1 Little Star Nov 2016 #3
ya beat me to it oldtime dfl_er Nov 2016 #5
doesn't matter, it is important to point out the distinction. Thanks still_one Nov 2016 #7
1,000 malaise Nov 2016 #9
I am with you, malaise. sheshe2 Nov 2016 #10
This is madness malaise Nov 2016 #11
Mad King Donald, pacing in his golden tower. It helps me a bit to visualize it as a fairy tale. Hekate Nov 2016 #21
LOL malaise Nov 2016 #33
I agree malaise. Hang in there. still_one Nov 2016 #17
It's their game to exasperate and exhaust us. Hang tough. anamandujano Nov 2016 #26
Too little too late. They kissed his arse for ratings. Oneironaut Nov 2016 #25
While I'm glad the NY Times used the word "lie" oldtime dfl_er Nov 2016 #4
exactly still_one Nov 2016 #6
the headline for the 'opinion piece' was on the front page, above the fold. spanone Nov 2016 #12
That is true, and gives it more impact, but its still referred to as an still_one Nov 2016 #18
"Someone who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2016 #8
Timely. Brrr. Hekate Nov 2016 #23
Of that I have NO doubt, whatsoever. BigDemVoter Nov 2016 #24
I'm glad this is keeping Trump up at night. Solly Mack Nov 2016 #13
i expect more tweets aimed at the new york times....expect they do too spanone Nov 2016 #14
Definitely. His minders allow him to tweet and make youtube videos. Solly Mack Nov 2016 #15
grrrr... spanone Nov 2016 #16
Yeah. :( Solly Mack Nov 2016 #19
While he oldtime dfl_er Nov 2016 #30
All while Hillary is out hiking, recuperating after the nightmarishly exhausting campaign. anamandujano Nov 2016 #28
and Trump is driving himself crazy. Solly Mack Nov 2016 #29
i love it also . i was thinking it would be a good idea to come up with a name for him JI7 Nov 2016 #34
He Is A Pathological Liar colsohlibgal Nov 2016 #20
and once again, we see media falling into the "truth trap" 0rganism Nov 2016 #22
Trump doesn't have an eloquent molecule in his body. His trolls repeat the same old lie even anamandujano Nov 2016 #27
he's plenty eloquent, but he's speaking a different language 0rganism Nov 2016 #31
What you're describing is not eloquent. You need a different word. anamandujano Nov 2016 #32
I'm waiting for when he arrests a bunch of Democrats for plotting against him.... Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2016 #35
Best damn reason for a recount.. own it drumpfuck. Cha Nov 2016 #36
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