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62. FUCK NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Thu Dec 1, 2016, 10:16 PM

Dec 2016

Not until all branches of the military treat sexual assualt like the crime it is.

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The White House Says Women Should Be Required to Register for the Military Draft [View all] guillaumeb Dec 2016 OP

I think it's about equality metroins Dec 2016 #1

Agreed. charlyvi Dec 2016 #3

oh I don't know Skittles Dec 2016 #4

Isn't this a step towards it? metroins Dec 2016 #11

no Skittles Dec 2016 #57

Congress metroins Dec 2016 #63

long debate Skittles Dec 2016 #64

Oh, brother. We should have mandatory universal draft. Hortensis Dec 2016 #96

Equal pay first, yes. n/t whathehell Dec 2016 #105

The military already does that "equal pay" thing. MADem Dec 2016 #203

While I get your point. Being a vet, I have to point out NWCorona Dec 2016 #148

Excellent point. cwydro Dec 2016 #174

A better question might be: guillaumeb Dec 2016 #7

It's your thread metroins Dec 2016 #18

I prefer to let it develop. guillaumeb Dec 2016 #40

I'm not sure what I think metroins Dec 2016 #41

Thank you for your contribution. eom guillaumeb Dec 2016 #43

We have grown numb to sending our sons to kill and die.. SQUEE Dec 2016 #15

I don't think that's it metroins Dec 2016 #23

And we should be drafting men and women. Travis_0004 Dec 2016 #31

More likely a war to employ the large number of people guillaumeb Dec 2016 #44

Then pass the fucking equal rights amendment or shut up elehhhhna Dec 2016 #70

Thank YOU! smirkymonkey Dec 2016 #84

I can't pass anything metroins Dec 2016 #142

I am posting once since the primaries were over MuseRider Dec 2016 #155

No one has been drafted since the early seventies. MADem Dec 2016 #202

I know a better way to make it equal. Get rid of it! n/t kcr Dec 2016 #73

Because nobody should be "in the draft." LWolf Dec 2016 #95

Agreed, they have fought to be treestar Dec 2016 #101

I don't know any women who fought to be forced by men to kill and die without their consent. stone space Dec 2016 #182

That's a different thing IMO as women want to be treestar Dec 2016 #199

Very funny Turbineguy Dec 2016 #2

The 1% ALWAYS send the 99% to fight wars for the 1%. eom guillaumeb Dec 2016 #8

I was thinking of Turbineguy Dec 2016 #14

I am unfamiliar with that reference. eom guillaumeb Dec 2016 #16

It was a program to get Recruiters to go to Turbineguy Dec 2016 #20

Far too many recruits? guillaumeb Dec 2016 #27

Okay, now I get it. Iggo Dec 2016 #197

Why did he wait until after the election TheWayitIs Dec 2016 #5

I agree philosslayer Dec 2016 #9

I doubt this issue is high on anyone's list. NobodyHere Dec 2016 #25

I totally support requiring women to register dhol82 Dec 2016 #6

But everybody would not be in the mix. guillaumeb Dec 2016 #10

I think there should be no exclusions dhol82 Dec 2016 #26

Or children of politicians? guillaumeb Dec 2016 #30

They should then be examined by physicians of the opposite party. dhol82 Dec 2016 #33

the draft and registering for the draft are two separate questions. Warren DeMontague Dec 2016 #67

Which simply moves the "unequal treatment" bar down a bit. eom guillaumeb Dec 2016 #115

I would favor universal service limited to domestic areas only. guillaumeb Dec 2016 #19

I had no problem with opening up combat roles for women Flavius Aetius Dec 2016 #13

I'm fine with women in infantry, but they should have to meet the same standard Travis_0004 Dec 2016 #35

In principle i agree Flavius Aetius Dec 2016 #49

You do realize that exoskeleton technology along with MADem Dec 2016 #85

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I think they should take care of the rape problem in the military first gollygee Dec 2016 #17

What if they took care of the "invading problem" with our politicians, guillaumeb Dec 2016 #22

That would be useful gollygee Dec 2016 #29

exactly. bdamomma Dec 2016 #144

I've been in favor of this for decades. Equal rights demand equal responsibilities. MADem Dec 2016 #198

Lets pass the Equal Rights Amendment first of all. milestogo Dec 2016 #21

I remember that one. guillaumeb Dec 2016 #24

We were one state short dhol82 Dec 2016 #32

She might be. guillaumeb Dec 2016 #39

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Except when it affects politicians and rich people. eom guillaumeb Dec 2016 #36

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No, they don't. The penalties you have set up are for ordinary folks. stone space Dec 2016 #94

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You don't have a right to force your guns on women. stone space Dec 2016 #104

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Since they can and do pay out of pocket, they don't face the same requirement. suffragette Dec 2016 #145

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It's not truly the same requirement if consequences differ. suffragette Dec 2016 #163

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When loopholes are available to rich people, but not to poor, then the requirement is not equal. suffragette Dec 2016 #176

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Tying penalties to financial resources necessary to those outside the rich creates an inequal suffragette Dec 2016 #181

Men forcing guns on women is not "equality". stone space Dec 2016 #83

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This is an attempt to deny women an education. That is what this is all about. (nt) stone space Dec 2016 #90

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Can you prpomise that women who refuse to register will be allowed access to education? stone space Dec 2016 #93

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So you fully support denying women access to education if they refuse to pick up a gun, huh? stone space Dec 2016 #103

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You are advocating denying women an education. stone space Dec 2016 #143

C.O. status is still in effect. SQUEE Dec 2016 #156

Simply not true. stone space Dec 2016 #158

But there is for service. SQUEE Dec 2016 #164

You claimed that there was a CO status available for Draft Registration. stone space Dec 2016 #168

No sir, I did not. SQUEE Dec 2016 #171

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By attacking their right to an education. stone space Dec 2016 #165

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Should men be denied an education for not picking up a gun? NickB79 Dec 2016 #150

There's a reason why I still don't have a BA to this day. (nt) stone space Dec 2016 #151

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Fuck that. Pass the ERA and we'll register. smirkymonkey Dec 2016 #34

Not much likelihood of that. guillaumeb Dec 2016 #37

Then fuck women going to war. smirkymonkey Dec 2016 #38

No ERA, high chance of getting raped, but apparently that's no big deal gollygee Dec 2016 #42

And that applies to both sexes. guillaumeb Dec 2016 #46

Women have all of that AND a very high chance of being sexually assaulted gollygee Dec 2016 #48

I have read numerous stories about rape in the military. guillaumeb Dec 2016 #50

The statement "All lives matter" in response to "Black lives matter" gollygee Dec 2016 #51

Please point them out. guillaumeb Dec 2016 #52

thank you Skittles Dec 2016 #59

Some of the best Officers I served under were women.... Nancyswidower Dec 2016 #53

Actually, many still will not. They still haven't figured out how to get men to register. stone space Dec 2016 #82

equality is a good thing, a responsible and overdue goal bigtree Dec 2016 #45

Which effectively closes off this avenue. guillaumeb Dec 2016 #47

well, they'll probably move forward with this bigtree Dec 2016 #54

I would hope that such a move would open a long overdue discussion guillaumeb Dec 2016 #55

Well, Doreen Dec 2016 #56

Agreed, if equal pay and opportunity and treatment were actually offered. guillaumeb Dec 2016 #58

how about equal pay and opportunity first? Skittles Dec 2016 #60

This will deny many women an education, under the ongoing Pacifist Purges of the Solomon Amendment. stone space Dec 2016 #61

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A PhD. That's not an undergraduate degree. stone space Dec 2016 #92

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You guessed wrong. stone space Dec 2016 #136

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Have I suggested denying anybody an education? stone space Dec 2016 #161

FUCK NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 50 Shades Of Blue Dec 2016 #62

I've always thought it would be better to get men out of war, than NRQ891 Dec 2016 #121

So have I. 50 Shades Of Blue Dec 2016 #137

Either everyone registers, or no one does. Warren DeMontague Dec 2016 #65

Not until the ERA passes, giving women equal rights to men. pnwmom Dec 2016 #71

There is a difference between registration and a draft. Warren DeMontague Dec 2016 #72

The ERA will help everyone who doesn't currently benefit pnwmom Dec 2016 #74

Personally, I don't think we should have a registration for the thing, at all. Warren DeMontague Dec 2016 #76

I don't how they're doing it, but they've been handling pnwmom Dec 2016 #77

I suspect that's not entirely true. Warren DeMontague Dec 2016 #78

Im not sure this is really leverage unless there actually is threat of a draft davidn3600 Dec 2016 #79

and WWIII wouldn't be fought with infantry, it would be fought with thermonuclear bombs. Warren DeMontague Dec 2016 #80

I'm with you. Ilsa Dec 2016 #172

It might be a good excuse treestar Dec 2016 #201

Not until the ERA passes, and not until our female troops are protected. n/t demmiblue Dec 2016 #66

Given the general level of misogyny, and given the stories about sexua violence in the military, guillaumeb Dec 2016 #116

If you require women to register for the draft... Laffy Kat Dec 2016 #68

Still waiting on that one. Still waiting for the GOP dominated states guillaumeb Dec 2016 #117

I've got a better idea: SomethingNew Dec 2016 #69

Welcome to DU, and I agree. It is nonsense. eom guillaumeb Dec 2016 #118

+1000000! SammyWinstonJack Dec 2016 #147

I'm on board. nt Ilsa Dec 2016 #177

How about fixing the military's rape problem first? LeftyMom Dec 2016 #75

How about fixing the rape problem in the entire country? guillaumeb Dec 2016 #119

Don't register! Refuse and resist! You have a right to say "NO"! stone space Dec 2016 #81

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A lot of us did just that during the Vietnam war. guillaumeb Dec 2016 #120

Christians WILL NEVER ALLOW IT HAB911 Dec 2016 #97

Please qualify that as "Fundamentalist" or RW Christians, whathehell Dec 2016 #106

Nothing wrong with that treestar Dec 2016 #99

And what if the US concentrated on rebuilding itself rather than military force guillaumeb Dec 2016 #123

I agree but that's another issue treestar Dec 2016 #200

No registration for anyone. alarimer Dec 2016 #107

Until the ERA is passed, women do not have a legal basis for joining the military. ancianita Dec 2016 #108

Recommended. guillaumeb Dec 2016 #125

Combine that with universal voter registration at 18, MineralMan Dec 2016 #109

This! LP2K12 Dec 2016 #110

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But that might encourage voting MM!!! guillaumeb Dec 2016 #126

It is every parents dream of burying both their sons and daughters AngryAmish Dec 2016 #112

My personal winner so far. guillaumeb Dec 2016 #128

It will actually have a good effect: make us resistant to wars mainer Dec 2016 #122

However, the US has literally always beens at war. guillaumeb Dec 2016 #129

I've always thought it would be better to get men out of war, than NRQ891 Dec 2016 #124

But war is the most used tactic in the US arsenal. guillaumeb Dec 2016 #130

'you've come a long way, baby' NRQ891 Dec 2016 #127

Equal rights to be used in war, but treated as second class at home? guillaumeb Dec 2016 #131

what I said was 'get people out of war, not into it' nt NRQ891 Dec 2016 #139

Everyone, or no one. Orsino Dec 2016 #132

Agreed. No one. guillaumeb Dec 2016 #133

I would rather build a country... Orsino Dec 2016 #134

A nice observation about "involuntary servitude". guillaumeb Dec 2016 #138

The first 22 female officers sworn in after graduation from WP in June for active combat role... Historic NY Dec 2016 #140

Which is a sign of progress that women are now, in 2016, finally considered "fit" guillaumeb Dec 2016 #141

Sure why not. But first... Nonhlanhla Dec 2016 #146

All excellent points, guillaumeb Dec 2016 #149

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I recommend Ibuprofen for the headache Nonhlanhla Dec 2016 #189

Will they issue camo slings for nursing babies Warpy Dec 2016 #152

The baby in front will balance the pack in the back. guillaumeb Dec 2016 #154

It has never been fair, not since the Middle Ages Warpy Dec 2016 #178

An interesting family story. Thanks. guillaumeb Dec 2016 #183

I agree with this. If we are going to be a warring nation, we should all share the burden. Squinch Dec 2016 #179

Or, we could decide that we wish to follow the example of Sweden and guillaumeb Dec 2016 #184

Yes, but we would need a lot more support for a move to that position than we currently have. Squinch Dec 2016 #185

Yes, that is a possibility. guillaumeb Dec 2016 #186

Because so few really pay for it directly. We just send those kids out to do our dirty work Squinch Dec 2016 #187

And the wounded veterans pay for it with shattered lives, guillaumeb Dec 2016 #188

Yep. But so many of us don't ever have to see that. And we treat them like shit when Squinch Dec 2016 #190

John Mccain recently introduced a bill to voucherize the VA. guillaumeb Dec 2016 #192

While you are, first of all, paying soldiers so little that they qualify for food stamps, and then Squinch Dec 2016 #194

A friend of mine was in the Marine Corps for a few years. guillaumeb Dec 2016 #195

Good! Buckeye_Democrat Dec 2016 #191

I am not as confident as you. guillaumeb Dec 2016 #193

The psychopaths at the top won't care, but more regular citizens won't like it. Buckeye_Democrat Dec 2016 #196