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pipi_k

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93. Flummoxed as to why people are

Wed Dec 14, 2016, 09:52 AM

Dec 2016

poo pooing this?

Let me turn this around. Imagine this is the Republicans talking about a Democrat. Stopping him or her from being inaugurated...the EC is suddenly going to see the error of their ways and refuse to select him or her.

Wouldn't people here poo-poo that idea? Wouldn't people laugh and call the Republicans idiots for even thinking it would be possible? Would people be biting their nails in fear, believing that if it happened, it would mean the derailing of the whole electoral process? No, very likely they would accuse Republicans trying to do it of being insane.

Would people think it's FAIR?

Oh yeah, I get it.

Things are only "fair" when they benefit ourselves.

And, I probably don't have to remind anyone, but will anyway...be careful of what you try to do to someone else, because there could come a time when what went around came back around.

Trump is a disgusting excuse for a human being, not even worthy of being called a "man" since he's so much like a petulant 5 year old child.

But all these dreams of stopping his inauguration are nothing but dreams.

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Holy shit! Harvard professor says GOP electors are close to blocking Trump win [View all] boston bean Dec 2016 OP

I'd like to believe, but I am skeptical. Chasstev365 Dec 2016 #1

It would be great but here's my concern. The safety of the electors. underthematrix Dec 2016 #29

Right now I think James Comey Mr. Evil Dec 2016 #38

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Comey is Trump's lapdog. lagomorph777 Dec 2016 #82

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I don't think Obama realized Comey was a Russian mole. lagomorph777 Dec 2016 #87

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He suppressed investigation of Russian hacks while publicizing HRC investigation. lagomorph777 Dec 2016 #98

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Welcome to DU, and nice try but around here we check RW talking points. lagomorph777 Dec 2016 #119

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I don't waste my breath on mindless Trumpies. Buh-bye. lagomorph777 Dec 2016 #124

Hint HurricaneWarning Dec 2016 #139

..... ailsagirl Dec 2016 #146

He should have realized awoke_in_2003 Dec 2016 #112

Raeally?, I didn't know that. Thanks for the info! JimBeard Dec 2016 #116

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The older I get awoke_in_2003 Dec 2016 #128

I don't think Comey is a Russian mole underthematrix Dec 2016 #151

This message was self-deleted by its author get the red out Dec 2016 #126

No. Comey knew his statement might well throw the election Hortensis Dec 2016 #64

Same here. Pacifist Patriot Dec 2016 #85

If come Monday and this happens liberal N proud Dec 2016 #2

Pretty much where my head is at. InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2016 #40

56 (plus?) EC members now demanding intel on Russian interference. Hortensis Dec 2016 #66

It means nothing. The vote will go as scheduled. duffyduff Dec 2016 #108

Maybe change nothing. But if nothing else it means Hortensis Dec 2016 #109

This is why the Dems aren't putting up much of a fight right now. duffyduff Dec 2016 #110

A CA Democrat is suing to invalidate the law binding Hortensis Dec 2016 #69

Fuck him. I hate assholes like that. duffyduff Dec 2016 #111

No, no, no. There's no chance the EC would elect Hillary. Hortensis Dec 2016 #113

Seriously..At this point I would welcome Kaisch or Romney... white_wolf Dec 2016 #131

Same here. Kasich is too dumb, bigoted, way too Hortensis Dec 2016 #136

This is how I feel also -- I would be delighted, ecstatic. But I have my doubts at this point anneboleyn Dec 2016 #127

House will ignore electors if they go rogue and install Trump anyway. n/t yodermon Dec 2016 #3

Gee, no kidding. Really? KittyWampus Dec 2016 #9

I agree. No matter outcome this is a good thing. boston bean Dec 2016 #13

if he still has more electoral college votes than anyone else onenote Dec 2016 #24

If fewer than 270 vote for him, then the decision goes to the House pnwmom Dec 2016 #41

A House Republican who would vote for someone other than Trump... spin Dec 2016 #45

Not if enough other people did it. There's no love lost between DT pnwmom Dec 2016 #47

A high percentage of Republican voters are TOTALLY fed up with Establishment ... spin Dec 2016 #49

Hd won, possibly because there were so many Ilsa Dec 2016 #61

House might choose Jeb or Marco, because they were preferred by most of the big GOP donors. nt tblue37 Dec 2016 #101

They could. But they won't onenote Dec 2016 #72

Can they do that? Hassin Bin Sober Dec 2016 #44

I thought that the House and Senate could only interfere in the event of a tie and only a tie? cstanleytech Dec 2016 #52

No, they can refuse to accept any or all of the electoral votes Grey Lemercier Dec 2016 #59

Oh, this should be amusing to watch then in a "train wreck in action" kind of way as cstanleytech Dec 2016 #142

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But... forgotmylogin Dec 2016 #95

20 is barely half-way there. That's not close at all. 35 would be close. LonePirate Dec 2016 #4

Right. Amd they will own him. 100%. boston bean Dec 2016 #6

Depends on who the third candidate would be... roamer65 Dec 2016 #20

House could pick Pence Liberty Belle Dec 2016 #21

No. They cannot pick Pence. roamer65 Dec 2016 #23

Good will? We can wrap that up, put it in a box and stow it away in the attic. Missn-Hitch Dec 2016 #32

It's already being labeled "Grand Compromise of 2016". roamer65 Dec 2016 #35

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They won't. They need the energy, anger and numbers from the deplorables. LonePirate Dec 2016 #26

Well if they let Hillary become president with Pence as VP then the deplorables will have plenty to cstanleytech Dec 2016 #53

all we need is 37 to flip. Javaman Dec 2016 #80

Except 37 are not going to flip to Clinton and not all Dem electors will flip to a third candidate. LonePirate Dec 2016 #86

they don't need to flip to Clinton, just not to the orange jerk. nt Javaman Dec 2016 #130

Someone besides him needs to win 270 electors or the House picks and they will pick him. LonePirate Dec 2016 #134

no, without enough electorial votes no one becomes pres and we have a new election. Javaman Dec 2016 #137

Unless at least 38 electors switch SickOfTheOnePct Dec 2016 #147

Harvard professor, and former democratic presidential candidate. Nt aidbo Dec 2016 #5

I am not buying it. duffyduff Dec 2016 #7

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The Republicans of 40 or 50 years ago could do this, duffyduff Dec 2016 #107

Bingo Pacifist Patriot Dec 2016 #114

+1 harun Dec 2016 #141

It would take 36 BainsBane Dec 2016 #8

This isn't a pipe dream Or getting hopes up. boston bean Dec 2016 #11

I'm just telling you it takes more than 20 BainsBane Dec 2016 #12

I know the number. And the article is also clear. boston bean Dec 2016 #15

Dominoes fall one at a time. The more that fall, the more that will come after. Tiggeroshii Dec 2016 #37

That's true. A couple weeks ago, most people wouldn't have thought even 5 EC's would flip AgadorSparticus Dec 2016 #60

I still don't think 5 will flip dems_rightnow Dec 2016 #70

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Flummoxed as to why people are pipi_k Dec 2016 #93

Geez how you been? Haven't seen you in ages. I don't give a shit if they use the constitution to boston bean Dec 2016 #102

Well said. cwydro Dec 2016 #121

I suspect I know what's going on but I won't say it. roamer65 Dec 2016 #19

stop talking about it dumbass Jean-Jacques Roussea Dec 2016 #10

Did you just call someone a dumbass? ismnotwasm Dec 2016 #14

the Harvard prof Jean-Jacques Roussea Dec 2016 #16

Okey dokey ismnotwasm Dec 2016 #18

Fingers are crossed. roamer65 Dec 2016 #17

Holy Shit is right.. i hope he's right.. you can't get anymore Blatantly Cha Dec 2016 #22

But he met with Kanye today. That is improvement. Missn-Hitch Dec 2016 #33

No it's not. Cha Dec 2016 #56

I agree. I am still upset what he did to that young girl, Taylor Swift. JimBeard Dec 2016 #120

That's right.. that's just one of his stupid dumb acts. Cha Dec 2016 #150

I'd like to think positive, but I'm bitter. Everytime this kind of thing comes out, C Moon Dec 2016 #25

THIS! nt SoCalMusicLover Dec 2016 #28

They need to STOP hurple Dec 2016 #27

Good point but I do believe the RNC has been alerted. Missn-Hitch Dec 2016 #34

we'll see AlexSFCA Dec 2016 #30

Do you recall Lessig's inspiring, well-planned Primary campaign? brooklynite Dec 2016 #31

All I want for Christmas is an Electoral College that protects America. nt TeamPooka Dec 2016 #36

+1 nt iluvtennis Dec 2016 #51

The entire GOP is not on board with Trump. melody Dec 2016 #39

I'll take it AlexSFCA Dec 2016 #43

True. Establishment Republicans hate Trump. ... spin Dec 2016 #48

That's not the reaction I've had from a couple of Trumpers melody Dec 2016 #54

I'm in northern Florida. ... spin Dec 2016 #57

Kasich is the name I'm seeing discussed on the web. Hortensis Dec 2016 #68

I'll Believe It When I see It DallasNE Dec 2016 #42

I'll believe it when I see it. Until then, Assfaced Shitgibbon is our president. Feeling the Bern Dec 2016 #46

That doesnt get old :-) CentralMass Dec 2016 #58

Maybe those electors are just "torturing" us on purpose mchill Dec 2016 #50

I doubt it. I hope so, but I doubt it. Kablooie Dec 2016 #55

Lol. cwydro Dec 2016 #62

I don't know about holy pintobean Dec 2016 #63

Hillary should have pushed for the Michigan recount Takket Dec 2016 #65

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He's got a real inside scoop...LOL ileus Dec 2016 #67

Put yourself in the place of an elector. Knowing the cabinet nominees and the general coziness Vinca Dec 2016 #71

I would love to see this happen Gothmog Dec 2016 #74

Until it happens JustAnotherGen Dec 2016 #76

It can't hurt, can it? boston bean Dec 2016 #77

I keep reading these "headlines" JustAnotherGen Dec 2016 #78

Well, something is going on. Whether anything happens with it or not... boston bean Dec 2016 #81

uh huh... Javaman Dec 2016 #79

I'll believe it when it happens Coolest Ranger Dec 2016 #89

But we still get a Republican, possibly even worse than the Tweeter-In- Chief elect, though that's.. Tarheel_Dem Dec 2016 #91

does anyone know if electors can abstain? nt tomp Dec 2016 #94

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Yes. In 2000, a DC elector abstained in protest of DC's lack of Congressional representation. JustinL Dec 2016 #149

I dunno, unable to buy this, unless the nastiness of this December surprise ain't over yet. JHan Dec 2016 #99

close to heaven05 Dec 2016 #100

How the hell is that close when it is barely more than half of what is needed? nt doc03 Dec 2016 #103

The key word here is "stall". This would not prevent anything. guillaumeb Dec 2016 #104

Let me know when 37 Trump electors have switched to Clinton. Coyotl Dec 2016 #105

Will they elect Trump? spinbaby Dec 2016 #118

I will believe it when we hear about this coming Monday 12/19/2016 turbinetree Dec 2016 #106

More than half isn't exactly "close" wryter2000 Dec 2016 #117

I'll place this in the trying bucolic_frolic Dec 2016 #122

This has to happen Dopers_Greed Dec 2016 #132

Seeing is believing JPPaverage Dec 2016 #133

I absolutely detest Trump Got it Dec 2016 #135

The EC should force zippythepinhead Dec 2016 #138

if i was a praying person, barbtries Dec 2016 #140

But for whom? Kasich? Yes, better than Trump, but still not Hillary who is the people's choice.(nt) ehrnst Dec 2016 #143

Maybe there are some humbled_opinion Dec 2016 #144

Wish I could believe that ailsagirl Dec 2016 #145

Oooooooh, too tempting. baldguy Dec 2016 #148

Hard to believe, but it sure would start off the new term with a shit-show of resentments Bucky Dec 2016 #152