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1. Civil rights is about equality, while identity politics is about advantages for specific groups

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Wed Dec 14, 2016, 12:21 PM

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Identity politics is a right-wing slur for civil rights [View all] Fast Walker 52 Dec 2016 OP

Civil rights is about equality, while identity politics is about advantages for specific groups FarCenter Dec 2016 #1

OK, so should Democrats ever use the term? Fast Walker 52 Dec 2016 #4

As a coalition including groups based on racial and gender identities, I doubt they can avoid it FarCenter Dec 2016 #5

It's always about civil or human rights for specific groups so "identity" minimizes the issues. bettyellen Dec 2016 #6

actually Identity Politics is about coalescing as a political force to get civil rights for those La Lioness Priyanka Dec 2016 #9

right, but the question is whether the term is tainted and if there is a better term for it Fast Walker 52 Dec 2016 #18

the term is a right wing term, that the left after this election seems to have taken up La Lioness Priyanka Dec 2016 #32

Thank you for this Uponthegears Dec 2016 #31

it's not a dig to say he did poorly with minorities. it is a fact. La Lioness Priyanka Dec 2016 #33

I kinda meant the dig at his language Uponthegears Dec 2016 #36

It was "identity politics" which gave birth to the civil rights movement.. JHan Dec 2016 #13

I personally think this is important but am wondering about the term itself-- is it tainted Fast Walker 52 Dec 2016 #19

I think that's a good analogy ... JHan Dec 2016 #21

Yep Uponthegears Dec 2016 #35

That sounds very republicanesque...I could not disagree more. Demsrule86 Dec 2016 #16

The right has framed several issues in their favor ck4829 Dec 2016 #2

While I agree the term is pejorative ymetca Dec 2016 #3

Very confusing. Doesn't the other side practice identity politics? Baitball Blogger Dec 2016 #7

While I agree that it's not an ideal term (I'd prefer "social issue politics", Bernie Sanders whathehell Dec 2016 #8

bernie sanders is not right wing but he never has had to cater to nonwhite constituents La Lioness Priyanka Dec 2016 #10

He had to cater to non-whites in the primaries whathehell Dec 2016 #11

no, he did very poorly with non-whites. even young non-whites voted for him at much lower levels La Lioness Priyanka Dec 2016 #12

I think that had less to do whathehell Dec 2016 #20

right. my point is that he didn't do well with minorities, and he will continue to alienate us La Lioness Priyanka Dec 2016 #29

"and he will continue our to alienate us if whathehell Dec 2016 #37

no, it's his distancing from identity politics over all. La Lioness Priyanka Dec 2016 #39

"his inability to tell civil rights coalitions apart from tokenism" whathehell Dec 2016 #41

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maybe in your head, but not in real life. nt La Lioness Priyanka Dec 2016 #27

"'cater to' nonwhite constituents?" What an insulting phrase. nt MadDAsHell Dec 2016 #15

attend to, listen to, deal with, be sensitive to: are all phrases that i can live with La Lioness Priyanka Dec 2016 #23

Is environmentalism an identity politics issue as well? jalan48 Dec 2016 #14

I like your idea. Identity politics sounds too much like "Vote for me because I look like you" yurbud Dec 2016 #17

"Vote for me because I look like you" is what a lot of people think of Dems to Win Dec 2016 #30

Identity Politics can apply to all groups regardless of race or party affiliation DemocraticSocialist8 Dec 2016 #22

K&R betsuni Dec 2016 #24

Of course it is and the ones using it that way are complicit in the alt rightining of america bravenak Dec 2016 #26

May I repeat my humble attempt at a different word? Uponthegears Dec 2016 #28

thanks-- to be clear, I am not against anything you wrote, it's just whether the words Fast Walker 52 Dec 2016 #42

Ok. David__77 Dec 2016 #34

Speak to Uponthegears Dec 2016 #38

Define, without invalidating any other viewpoint. David__77 Dec 2016 #40