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mopinko

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20. i think it is much deeper.

Wed Dec 14, 2016, 11:44 AM

Dec 2016

personally, i think that putin turned him long ago.
how long has paul manafort lived in drumph tower? i think it all comes back to him.
i not only think there was russian interference from the start, i think putin has had his hand up his shirt, he may or maynot know/acknowledge that. manafort blew up his skirt in the first place. probably rubbed the obama remarks in a bit.

and i think this goes way deeper than money. i think that they have something on him, probably caught him in a honey trap w an underage girl.
i think where the money argument might fail, blackmail will not.
he is a flat out agent, witting or otherwise, and they flat out sent him.
putin would not stick his neck out this far on hopes. he owns him already.

as far as i am concerned the only question is who was in on it. if not cheeto, his kids.

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My theory about Trump and Russia [View all] BainsBane Dec 2016 OP

This really does make all this nightmare hang together. annabanana Dec 2016 #1

And investigate how much trump's people knew and worked with the Russians NightWatcher Dec 2016 #2

It's a good one JustAnotherGen Dec 2016 #3

Me too! get the red out Dec 2016 #5

I think Shitler's planning to pay his debts Cracklin Charlie Dec 2016 #4

Bingo. Putin did the takeover so he could execute the $500 billion deal he made with Tillerson. lagomorph777 Dec 2016 #18

I was thinking the very same thing. Mr. Evil Dec 2016 #65

As evidenced by his actions octoberlib Dec 2016 #6

Trump may indeed become the richest president to feel more comfortable living abroad Baitball Blogger Dec 2016 #7

One can hope madokie Dec 2016 #8

Post removed Post removed Dec 2016 #9

This message was self-deleted by its author JTFrog Dec 2016 #12

Reagan won the Cold War BainsBane Dec 2016 #13

Excellent point. blue neen Dec 2016 #26

agreed NewJeffCT Dec 2016 #34

Reagan didn't win the cold war. eggplant Dec 2016 #46

I get that BainsBane Dec 2016 #47

Yes, Star Wars sped things up, to be sure. eggplant Dec 2016 #64

Recommended. Interesting analysis. guillaumeb Dec 2016 #10

Those are serious, serious problems BainsBane Dec 2016 #11

Agreed. But "reality" for many people is what they see and hear. guillaumeb Dec 2016 #14

However, we learned in this election that many don't BainsBane Dec 2016 #15

Personally I put most of the MSM in with the fake news sites. guillaumeb Dec 2016 #38

I think that's a dangerous approach BainsBane Dec 2016 #43

I agree, in part. guillaumeb Dec 2016 #53

Absolutely BainsBane Dec 2016 #54

And read a variety of sources. guillaumeb Dec 2016 #55

It's always about finances with Don the Con. SHRED Dec 2016 #16

Under this all is Bannon & White Supremacists. Republicans used Southern Strategy as dog whistle KittyWampus Dec 2016 #17

Been thinking this all along... Wounded Bear Dec 2016 #19

I suspect you're right BainsBane Dec 2016 #68

i think it is much deeper. mopinko Dec 2016 #20

It's possible BainsBane Dec 2016 #21

From Pussy Riot to Pussy Grabber ymetca Dec 2016 #35

paradigm shift AlexSFCA Dec 2016 #22

This points out the complete absurdity of the modern republican party Cosmocat Dec 2016 #27

precisely AlexSFCA Dec 2016 #33

Yep Cosmocat Dec 2016 #48

If the situation was reversed.... LakeArenal Dec 2016 #23

definitely. double standards and false equivocations were the theme of this election cycle. JHan Dec 2016 #25

Makes me wonder if we'll ever see his tax returns. JHan Dec 2016 #24

Only if a true blue American JustAnotherGen Dec 2016 #28

He's also heavily in debt to the Chinese WhiteTara Dec 2016 #29

We are the battleground in a proxy war? McKim Dec 2016 #44

We'll see. WhiteTara Dec 2016 #51

I agree, Bains. brer cat Dec 2016 #30

That's been the obvious explanation since he wouldn't release his tax returns underpants Dec 2016 #31

That plus some barely legal teen action Generator Dec 2016 #32

George Will tried to warn of this. 33taw Dec 2016 #36

I didn't see Will's comments BainsBane Dec 2016 #52

It was the "oligarchs" comment 33taw Dec 2016 #62

Republicans and Russia. Sunlei Dec 2016 #37

Russian loving Republicans indeed! ffr Dec 2016 #40

Leadership Republicans don't seem to mind at all, our government stuff is hacked & only 'leaked' Sunlei Dec 2016 #42

Until established, that would be a hypothesis. ffr Dec 2016 #39

I don't think Trump is reliable enough to be a Russian agent NewJeffCT Dec 2016 #41

Right - he is the ultimate "useful idiot" Cosmocat Dec 2016 #50

Follow the money. mnhtnbb Dec 2016 #45

interesting... Joe941 Dec 2016 #49

And there's Manafort blitzburgh55 Dec 2016 #56

And Roger Stone BainsBane Dec 2016 #57

I have been screaming this for months!!! They always asked him what business he had Liberal In Red State Dec 2016 #58

If true Bear Creek Dec 2016 #59

if this were turned around, republicans would cancel Christmas to hold hearings from now till.... spanone Dec 2016 #60

No question BainsBane Dec 2016 #61

I think you are on to something. smirkymonkey Dec 2016 #63

Seems like our Intel folks humbled_opinion Dec 2016 #66

This is totally dead-on thegoose Dec 2016 #67

Rec'd. That's been my main suspicion as well. Buckeye_Democrat Dec 2016 #69

Nixon has his plumbers; Trump had Putin. nt SunSeeker Dec 2016 #70

And the Reich-Wing is in in it... marcopolo63 Dec 2016 #71

I wouldn't be heartbroken if he is BainsBane Dec 2016 #72