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JHan

(10,173 posts)
13. It was "identity politics" which gave birth to the civil rights movement..
Wed Dec 14, 2016, 02:22 PM
Dec 2016

since public policy has historically and continues to affect some groups to the benefit or detriment of others. Pointing this out is something no Liberal should be afraid to do, we should embrace it..

The constitution was originally conceived to benefit white men alone - white identity is central to almost every public policy decision and the response to changes in cultural norms and values throughout our history. As a result, the Civil Rights Movement challenged this white privilege by emphasizing how State Power impacted blacks disproportionately ( because of Identity) and Civil Rights mushroomed into an umbrella for all groups :- women, "native-americans", homosexuals etc etc.

Political fights aren’t won with universal principled arguments alone, and pretending that they are is often a mask for the identity politics of the staatsvolk. As citizens of a liberal state trying to preserve it, we need to be able to hear each other talking about particularized injustices, and to cheer each other on when we seek to overturn them. Members of disadvantaged minorities standing up for themselves aren’t to blame for the turn to populist authoritarianism; and their energy and commitment is a resource that free societies can’t do without in resisting it.


https://niskanencenter.org/blog/defense-liberty-cant-without-identity-politics/
Civil rights is about equality, while identity politics is about advantages for specific groups FarCenter Dec 2016 #1
OK, so should Democrats ever use the term? Fast Walker 52 Dec 2016 #4
As a coalition including groups based on racial and gender identities, I doubt they can avoid it FarCenter Dec 2016 #5
It's always about civil or human rights for specific groups so "identity" minimizes the issues. bettyellen Dec 2016 #6
actually Identity Politics is about coalescing as a political force to get civil rights for those La Lioness Priyanka Dec 2016 #9
right, but the question is whether the term is tainted and if there is a better term for it Fast Walker 52 Dec 2016 #18
the term is a right wing term, that the left after this election seems to have taken up La Lioness Priyanka Dec 2016 #32
Thank you for this Uponthegears Dec 2016 #31
it's not a dig to say he did poorly with minorities. it is a fact. La Lioness Priyanka Dec 2016 #33
I kinda meant the dig at his language Uponthegears Dec 2016 #36
It was "identity politics" which gave birth to the civil rights movement.. JHan Dec 2016 #13
I personally think this is important but am wondering about the term itself-- is it tainted Fast Walker 52 Dec 2016 #19
I think that's a good analogy ... JHan Dec 2016 #21
Yep Uponthegears Dec 2016 #35
That sounds very republicanesque...I could not disagree more. Demsrule86 Dec 2016 #16
The right has framed several issues in their favor ck4829 Dec 2016 #2
While I agree the term is pejorative ymetca Dec 2016 #3
Very confusing. Doesn't the other side practice identity politics? Baitball Blogger Dec 2016 #7
While I agree that it's not an ideal term (I'd prefer "social issue politics", Bernie Sanders whathehell Dec 2016 #8
bernie sanders is not right wing but he never has had to cater to nonwhite constituents La Lioness Priyanka Dec 2016 #10
He had to cater to non-whites in the primaries whathehell Dec 2016 #11
no, he did very poorly with non-whites. even young non-whites voted for him at much lower levels La Lioness Priyanka Dec 2016 #12
I think that had less to do whathehell Dec 2016 #20
right. my point is that he didn't do well with minorities, and he will continue to alienate us La Lioness Priyanka Dec 2016 #29
"and he will continue our to alienate us if whathehell Dec 2016 #37
no, it's his distancing from identity politics over all. La Lioness Priyanka Dec 2016 #39
"his inability to tell civil rights coalitions apart from tokenism" whathehell Dec 2016 #41
Post removed Post removed Dec 2016 #25
maybe in your head, but not in real life. nt La Lioness Priyanka Dec 2016 #27
"'cater to' nonwhite constituents?" What an insulting phrase. nt MadDAsHell Dec 2016 #15
attend to, listen to, deal with, be sensitive to: are all phrases that i can live with La Lioness Priyanka Dec 2016 #23
Is environmentalism an identity politics issue as well? jalan48 Dec 2016 #14
I like your idea. Identity politics sounds too much like "Vote for me because I look like you" yurbud Dec 2016 #17
"Vote for me because I look like you" is what a lot of people think of Dems to Win Dec 2016 #30
Identity Politics can apply to all groups regardless of race or party affiliation DemocraticSocialist8 Dec 2016 #22
K&R betsuni Dec 2016 #24
Of course it is and the ones using it that way are complicit in the alt rightining of america bravenak Dec 2016 #26
May I repeat my humble attempt at a different word? Uponthegears Dec 2016 #28
thanks-- to be clear, I am not against anything you wrote, it's just whether the words Fast Walker 52 Dec 2016 #42
Ok. David__77 Dec 2016 #34
Speak to Uponthegears Dec 2016 #38
Define, without invalidating any other viewpoint. David__77 Dec 2016 #40
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