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The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,669 posts)
4. My theory, for what it's worth,
Thu Dec 15, 2016, 11:41 PM
Dec 2016

is that the ideas that support this behavior - objectivism, supply-side economics and the like - are quite literally, for many conservatives, matters of faith in the religious sense. And by "religion" I mean any belief system that involves accepting certain things as true without any objective proof that they actually are true. Paul Ryan, for example, apparently believes that taking away government-supplied health insurance and replacing it with private insurance and vouchers is a good thing - notwithstanding the fact that an objective analysis of the costs and benefits shows that this would actually harm people.

Of course supply-side economics has been proved over and over not to work, but conservatives are convinced it does, or that it will if it's tried often enough and for long enough. Likewise, Marxists, Maoists and Stalinists believed communism would work, and for decades kept trying to make it work even though it clearly wasn't working at all. And Ryan believes absolutely in his health insurance program in much the same way Christians believe Jesus was resurrected on Easter. Unless we accept the possibility that all Republicans are truly evil so they promote legislation that hurts people because they like hurting people (which may be true in some cases), the only explanation is that they believe their own bullshit and think that eventually the implementation of their theories will actually improve society.

How Do You Get There? [View all] NanceGreggs Dec 2016 OP
I do not understand it at all mcar Dec 2016 #1
if you ever find the answers, please let us know. I, for one, do not understand them at all. niyad Dec 2016 #2
They're predators for now. The Wizard Dec 2016 #3
My theory, for what it's worth, The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2016 #4
interesting. of course, paul ryan DesertFlower Dec 2016 #8
Paul Ryan who is spearheading ... NanceGreggs Dec 2016 #11
Yeah, I know... I'm just trying to figure out what kind of mental gymnastics The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2016 #12
I know. NanceGreggs Dec 2016 #15
Good cadence in your style. The Wizard Dec 2016 #5
How do I become so black-hearted that I look forward to deep-red-state cataclysms and disasters? NBachers Dec 2016 #6
"Welcome to the light." madamesilverspurs Dec 2016 #7
Hey, America, one simple fact about the GOP: they DON'T want to help you. calimary Dec 2016 #9
Nance nails it again! I have HAD IT with fake Christians and fake Patriots. joanbarnes Dec 2016 #10
How indeed. Clear-eyed questions... for doll-eyed dolts. FailureToCommunicate Dec 2016 #13
I don't get it either. I try and try to imagine what it would feel like BlancheSplanchnik Dec 2016 #14
The light is behind us and only darkness ahead. sheshe2 Dec 2016 #16
Ayn f'ing Rand. resistance2016 Dec 2016 #17
You're Whistling In the Wind brooklynboy49 Dec 2016 #18
We seem to have become a very selfish nation. MineralMan Dec 2016 #19
It's because 30 years of hate has spewed out of their tv's, radios, and pulpits NightWatcher Dec 2016 #20
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