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Response to Mc Mike (Reply #87)

Wed Dec 21, 2016, 09:43 PM

88. identity politics...


You You start out with "Right wing "news" liars have a point, our side is acting like Alex Jones", it should be called out on this behavior. And end with "Dems should jettison "identity politics". "

WTF are you talking about? I didn't mention Alex Jones. There are 6-7 mentions of AJ... none of those posts are mine. Please retract.

As for another of your points you seem to be butchering... I wrote "But then, maybe that's just me. I'm concerned about the big, strategic issues... like finally making the Constitution democratic... and the big economic issues... not identity politics."

I never said the Dems should abandon them. Did I? There still are issues, social justice, economic, whatever, linked to one's identity. But I want to see energy going into developing a vision of where Dems want to take the nation in 20-50-100 years. Without a vision, there will be no strategy. And without either... we're back to the Dems being myopic.... just looking towards that new presidential election. I don't want to ever lose site of that vision of that better society where many of those identity politics questions might take care of themselves.

As for herd behavior... it should be obvious... and it's caused by ideological drift away from principle as a party changes it's positions. It happens all the time. Bill Clinton stole issues from the GOP. Trump stole issues from the Dems. In large part they both reshaped their parties. Back in 2000 liberal Dems were against Bush's irresponsible tax cuts and for debt paydown as necessary to strengthen Social Security. 12-13 years later when Obama proposes keeping most of Bush's irresponsible tax cuts but raising them on the rich... liberal Dems supported him. Gone is talk of debt paydown. Partisans tend to drift with these changing positions. I still see growing debt to be a problem regardless of what Obama did.

As for this thread... I didn't care about any posts about E's other reporting. I was only commenting ON THE INTERVIEW. I do have that right... you agree? And surely E knows how to answer a question in 30 sec... and yet he blabbered on about the CIA. It was presented as E kicking Carlson's ass and in the end the entire video was a waste of time... not some mighty triumph over Fox.

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