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jmowreader

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40. The Framers never envisioned a scenario where they'd need one

Thu Dec 29, 2016, 02:57 PM

Dec 2016

The poor deluded Framers thought the American people would always put honorable people up for election to the presidency. Imagine their shock if they were told, "in 1980 the American people had to choose between an honorable peanut processor from Georgia who is a smart but quiet man, and a thug from California." After explaining to them what a thug was, the story would continue: "The thug cut a deal with a group of people who'd taken one of our embassies hostage: hold those hostages until I'm elected..."

Sorry folks, but I just figured out all the news about jobs returning to the US, and now I don't feel so good.

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I don't get it, we are punishing Russia for meddling in election, but we have to keep the winner??? [View all] jodymarie aimee Dec 2016 OP

Obama has to show proof atreides1 Dec 2016 #1

He has, there's 17 other agencies that says there's something and something is enough in this case uponit7771 Dec 2016 #9

17 agencies that truebluegreen Dec 2016 #49

That article was written before today's new sanctions announced and declassified reports released wishstar Dec 2016 #63

I don't get it either. Greybnk48 Dec 2016 #2

"why is this election not nullified?" jberryhill Dec 2016 #10

No surprise since neither you nor I are Greybnk48 Dec 2016 #16

The Constitution is an extremely short document. former9thward Dec 2016 #18

Collusion with a foreign govt. to win an election, Greybnk48 Dec 2016 #20

Hell, Trump broke this LAW when he violated Greybnk48 Dec 2016 #21

And so what? jberryhill Dec 2016 #24

Personally I think voting machines in rust belt states were hacked, but Eliot Rosewater Dec 2016 #30

Amen! redstatebluegirl Dec 2016 #51

I guess the founders treestar Dec 2016 #32

You would be wrong to think that what went on here is treason. For myriad reasons. onenote Dec 2016 #39

This message was self-deleted by its author CountAllVotes Dec 2016 #54

The Constitution takes up four pages of parchment jberryhill Dec 2016 #22

there isn't Read it yourself. bowens43 Dec 2016 #35

Barack Obama is a Constitutional Law Scholar milestogo Dec 2016 #38

This message was self-deleted by its author CountAllVotes Dec 2016 #60

I can't claim the mantle of constitutional marybourg Dec 2016 #55

The Framers never envisioned a scenario where they'd need one jmowreader Dec 2016 #40

Nonsense jberryhill Dec 2016 #42

The perception is locked in. Trump was bolstered by Russia. Baitball Blogger Dec 2016 #3

Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2016 #4

read this article bdamomma Dec 2016 #5

I know. ananda Dec 2016 #6

If there were a million people in the streets and if the media covered it we could doc03 Dec 2016 #7

"not until people gave their lives at Kent State did it finnaly get results" jberryhill Dec 2016 #11

I think that turned the tide and it started winding down then or we would doc03 Dec 2016 #19

Well, then, by that standard, MineralMan Dec 2016 #31

There's also the 25th Amendment jmowreader Dec 2016 #43

Two thirds of Congress is a very, very difficult bridge to cross. MineralMan Dec 2016 #44

Under normal circumstances I'd agree with you jmowreader Dec 2016 #47

The Constitution is quite clear. MineralMan Dec 2016 #48

This message was self-deleted by its author CountAllVotes Dec 2016 #61

US involvement in the war ended in 1973 Charles Bukowski Dec 2016 #34

Maybe the public, visible involvement, but dumbcat Dec 2016 #66

the is no provision in the constitution for nulification of an election. bowens43 Dec 2016 #36

A million people is less than 1% of the registered voter population. MineralMan Dec 2016 #45

+1 uponit7771 Dec 2016 #8

Our Constitution is not set up for what we are witnessing, Raine1967 Dec 2016 #12

Sadly true Zambero Dec 2016 #13

I doubt the Founders thought we would ever elect a blue blooded plutocrat to the highest Rex Dec 2016 #57

Exactly. Raine1967 Dec 2016 #58

Most people would think the POTUS would have to give up his holdings. Rex Dec 2016 #59

If after an election an American President wanted to reconcile with the British empire? gordianot Dec 2016 #14

$10.6 Trilllion dollars lost in 8 years under GWB ffr Dec 2016 #15

LOL, I would have liked all those people to stick around or win, too.... LisaM Dec 2016 #17

yes, by space-agey I didn't mean outer space!! jodymarie aimee Dec 2016 #23

Also missing is any talk of cleaning it up for the next election LiberalLovinLug Dec 2016 #25

When there are hearings in Congress they will not be in the open, they will be with those with Thinkingabout Dec 2016 #26

I suppose Obama triron Dec 2016 #27

Not in any stretch of the imagination under these circumstances onenote Dec 2016 #41

War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength and... Javaman Dec 2016 #28

If there's interference on the play, the touchdown is nullified. mac56 Dec 2016 #29

this is not a silly game bowens43 Dec 2016 #37

For pete's sake! This is not a football game. MineralMan Dec 2016 #46

What exactly can Obama do with our current Constitution and laws? nini Dec 2016 #33

He can be President for the next 21 days. MineralMan Dec 2016 #62

Yep, winner is all ours. No returns. LisaL Dec 2016 #50

Ooooh it's just not fair! truebluegreen Dec 2016 #52

The "winner" Turbineguy Dec 2016 #53

I said the same thing in 2000, why did the guy that lost get to become POTUS? Rex Dec 2016 #56

correct; get ready to do it again and again. we need all paper ballots, HAND-COUNTED; TheFrenchRazor Dec 2016 #65

yep; it is BS. we are in uncharted territory. nt TheFrenchRazor Dec 2016 #64

Keeping the ole powder dry, dontchaknow! flvegan Dec 2016 #67