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Lee-Lee

(6,324 posts)
13. Several things here...
Fri Dec 30, 2016, 08:51 AM
Dec 2016

First, the VA is a civilian agency and in no way part of the DOD.

Most VA doctors and nurses are not veterans. Virtually none of them hold any sort of security clearance or have any training on how to handle classified information. The only ones who would hold an active clearance would be those also in one of the reserve components of the US military in a position that requires it.

The VA computer system is in no way, shape or form set up for not approved to handle "military secrets". No classified information should ever be on there any more than it should be on the systems of any other typical government agency like HHS or HUD.

There is no indication the VA computer systems are in any way more secure than private health care systems. I can tell you for a fact that in virtually every way the VA computer systems lag about 10 years behind in technology and capabilities compared to what you see in the private sector. Heck, it was only very recently that they actually upgraded the VA system to allow codes for female specific diagnoses it was set up assuming all patients were male long ago and never changed.

So, in short, the idea that VA systems or VA doctors are somehow equipped to or more capable of safeguarding any information a patient wrongly passes to them is pretty much totally without merit or any grounding in reality. Being a VA employee gives them zero clearance or training on the matter and VA computer systems are no safer and in fact, due to how poorly run and constantly out of date they are probably more susceptible to compromise.

Now, as a patient who uses VA services I would very much like to be given the option of using VA doctors and services or choosing to go to a private practice or specialist and having the VA pay for it. When I was uncomfortable with the only choice given of an gynecologist at my old VA facility my only option to get another was to drive a 5 hour round trip to the next closest VA hospital. It would have been so much better to just be able to choose one in town.

The VA kind of tried this with the VA choice program but the screwed it up badly. It said if you were over so many miles you could choose a private doctor. But first they made the arbitrary decision at some facilities that the mileage limit Congress set was to be measured in nautical miles straight line to make it as ft as possible, so your actual drive might be 80 miles to go around rivers or mountains but straight line on a map it was 39 nautical miles making you ineligible. Then they badly, badly bungled paying the private doctors causing most to no longer accept the program after a short while and even causing some vets to have bills sent to collections in their name screwing their credit. They fixed the mileage issue to be driving miles everywhere but the damage from late payments remains with most providers no longer willing to take the system and vets with damaged credit.

Not all veterans use the VA radical noodle Dec 2016 #1
Did he have a service related injury jberryhill Dec 2016 #4
He never talked about it radical noodle Dec 2016 #5
I was drafted back during the 'Nam years but no longer use the VA. Elwood P Dowd Dec 2016 #20
Good question. nm AmericanActivist Dec 2016 #2
Privatization of the VA is an evil and insane proposition A-Schwarzenegger Dec 2016 #3
Privatization Equals Death for some of the vets bearssoapbox Dec 2016 #6
I think I will defer to the Vets SleeplessinSoCal Dec 2016 #7
To be honest I have wondered why we need the VA at all because can't they get similar care via cstanleytech Dec 2016 #8
No, how many GP's have experience with Dioxin. denbot Dec 2016 #9
Don't Privatize the VA queentonic Dec 2016 #10
+1000000! SammyWinstonJack Dec 2016 #16
Privatizing the VA Turbineguy Dec 2016 #11
I've never understood how extracting profits from a formerly non-profit agency "reduces costs." hunter Dec 2016 #15
It reduces costs by reducing benefits. Turbineguy Dec 2016 #22
On the other hand madokie Dec 2016 #12
Several things here... Lee-Lee Dec 2016 #13
As a follow up I just asked one of our IT security guys at work Lee-Lee Dec 2016 #14
Thanks. If true then the VA needs to get itself secure. As do all health providers McCamy Taylor Dec 2016 #21
The VA scheduling system went online in 1985 and to this day it is unchanged Lee-Lee Dec 2016 #26
Why do we need to privatize the VA? Iggo Dec 2016 #17
Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2016 #18
Thank you for your valued opinion. smirkymonkey Dec 2016 #23
People forget that Bernie Sanders and John McCain started the privatization in 2014. former9thward Dec 2016 #19
The VA has essentially closed it by not paying providers Lee-Lee Dec 2016 #25
Thanks for the information. former9thward Dec 2016 #29
THE best piece on the Kochs' VA privatization scheme: A-Schwarzenegger Dec 2016 #24
You don't need to privatise it entirely but you could help out a lot of veterans if they were Alekzander Dec 2016 #27
Privatizing will be so much more costly. Trust Buster Dec 2016 #28
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