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LWolf

(46,179 posts)
36. Good points,
Sat Dec 31, 2016, 06:24 PM
Dec 2016

which is why the hate is so strong; we can't have anyone blowing up our myths.

Do you think that the rise of the Bernie campaign could herald a new era in the history of the Democratic Party?

I hope so. Both Trump and Bernie are turning their respective parties upside down. What Bernie is doing is very impressive. I interviewed him a few years ago and have always admired him. I think he’s a great man. To think that he could beat a Clinton in a Democratic primary anywhere in this country, let alone many primaries, was unthinkable a short time ago. And he’s done it without any Wall Street or big-business backing. That is extraordinary. It shows the kind of desperation that’s out there.

He has shown the way, and whether he gets the nomination or not (he probably won’t), there’ll be another Bernie four years from now. And there’ll also be another Trump. The Republican Party is being turned on its head much more violently than the Democrats. Hillary will probably get the nomination. I live in Washington, D.C., and I spend time around Hillary-style Democrats. They really think that they’ve got this thing in the bag. And I don’t just mean her versus Bernie. I mean the Democratic Party winning the presidency for the rest of our lives. From here to eternity. They can choose whoever they want. They could nominate anybody and they would win. They think they’re in charge.
Complete bullshit. Squinch Dec 2016 #1
Agree. I'm a Democrat and this opportunistic polemic Hortensis Dec 2016 #19
It IS interesting how the conservatives are so malleable. There is a psychology Squinch Dec 2016 #40
You know, they believe in nothing they can define in words, but Hortensis Dec 2016 #43
That's the problem Lord_at_War Dec 2016 #47
but they ARE voters. they voted for HIllary . it's how she won Nevada , NY etc JI7 Dec 2016 #50
I am sure they voted in the same percentages as everyone else. Squinch Dec 2016 #51
so Afromania Dec 2016 #2
That is the point: truebluegreen Jan 2017 #59
aye Afromania Jan 2017 #62
The good news is no one can hide anymore. truebluegreen Jan 2017 #63
really? when did that happen? such utter bullshit. spanone Dec 2016 #3
Because the Dems edhopper Dec 2016 #4
You want to use truebluegreen Jan 2017 #60
Sorry I am not pure enough edhopper Jan 2017 #67
The Dems are the party of all people... SidDithers Dec 2016 #5
THIS !!!!!!!!!! nt Maru Kitteh Dec 2016 #55
This. Starry Messenger Jan 2017 #65
What is this tripe even doing here? world wide wally Dec 2016 #6
More carefully concealed Bernie slobbing. Charles Bukowski Dec 2016 #7
Post removed Post removed Dec 2016 #8
Trump lost by nearly 3 million votes. That makes 6 out of 7 Republicans who have lost the popular Charles Bukowski Dec 2016 #10
Not gun bans. benEzra Dec 2016 #45
voter suppression and gerrymander. I find more people on the left act like 2010 never happened and uponit7771 Dec 2016 #12
This message was self-deleted by its author Jake Stern Dec 2016 #14
frig that's a lie bdamomma Dec 2016 #9
There's a grain of truth in it. gulliver Dec 2016 #11
So 90% of PoC voted dem and now we're elites too? I don't see this having any truth unless ... uponit7771 Dec 2016 #13
No, the elitism charge against Dems is asinine. gulliver Dec 2016 #22
Meritocracy has always been problematic. Willie Pep Dec 2016 #17
A meritocracy isn't inherently illiberal if everybody has an equal chance to succeed. DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2016 #24
The argument is not that we discard expertise. Willie Pep Jan 2017 #64
I agree. gulliver Dec 2016 #28
Elite in this case is Liberal. lancelyons Dec 2016 #31
That, and the clickbait site you found it on is MineralMan Dec 2016 #15
I must have missed that memo. n/t Different Drummer Dec 2016 #16
If Obama could have run for a third term he would have beat Trump ... spin Dec 2016 #18
Dems went from being 'party of the people' to the Party of Rich Elites ...... LenaBaby61 Dec 2016 #20
Tell that to the millions of lower-income Americans who voted for the Dems, pnwmom Dec 2016 #21
This is complete 100% bullshit! Initech Dec 2016 #23
Since when is elite a derogatory term? question everything Dec 2016 #25
It's more like Democrats became more interested in money and fund-raising than in its people. kentuck Dec 2016 #26
Fake news scscholar Dec 2016 #27
Thomas Frank has zentrum Dec 2016 #29
He wrote "What's the Matter with Kansas" MountCleaners Dec 2016 #33
That's an excellent book. zentrum Dec 2016 #41
"Listen. Liberal" is an excellent book by him as well. m-lekktor Dec 2016 #57
Yeah i dont agree. lancelyons Dec 2016 #30
just another wrong conclusion or opinion amongst so many recently NRaleighLiberal Dec 2016 #32
And the brainwashing continues. . . . anniebelle Dec 2016 #34
Just stop. hunter Dec 2016 #35
Good points, LWolf Dec 2016 #36
More "Democrats same as Republicans" bullshit. baldguy Dec 2016 #37
+1 uponit7771 Jan 2017 #61
Thomas Frank spent the whole campaign season slagging Hillary Clinton. johnp3907 Dec 2016 #38
DLC moondust Dec 2016 #39
Post removed Post removed Dec 2016 #42
Take away the blue states and America becomes DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2016 #44
I respect the author's point of view but I disagree with the premise that our party is a party whic Naamah Dec 2016 #46
in THomas Frank's world there is no Racism, Sexism, Anti lbgt and other bigotry JI7 Dec 2016 #48
so Blacks, Hispanics, Native Americans, LGBT , Women are the Rich Elites ?????????? JI7 Dec 2016 #49
Bull Shit liberal N proud Dec 2016 #52
I'm sorry but I just don't buy this premise at all. YOHABLO Dec 2016 #53
You have to read Frank with the understanding that he is not an activist SharonClark Dec 2016 #54
Yeah right and the republicans went from the party of rich elites to the party of the people lunasun Dec 2016 #56
Thomas Frank is a prophet in the Dem party Larkspur Dec 2016 #58
GAWD..this crap is getting so boring nini Jan 2017 #66
Many can NOT rationally discuss this obvious fact!! eniwetok Jan 2017 #68
InTheseTimes.com? Seriously?? Blue_Tires Jan 2017 #69
that was a rebuttal? seriously? n/t eniwetok Jan 2017 #70
I'm sorry, just who the fuck are you again? Blue_Tires Jan 2017 #72
The party of rich elites? smirkymonkey Jan 2017 #71
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