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Mc Mike

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16. Group dynamics are an important issue, so is the difference between pro-peace and pacifism.
Mon Jan 23, 2017, 10:02 AM
Jan 2017

When a group of people gets thrown together, they seem to crystalize around 2 or 3 strong personalities, people with forceful opinions. The 'more timid' people see the ones who are definitely sure about their opinions, and crystalize around them. Which is bad when the idea is to get together as a group to victimize one or two people.

So the uncommitted ones saw your people with definite opinions and strong committment to the opposite idea. They needed to see some other forceful opinion to crystalize around, and defected once they did.

I'm pro-peace, too, but won't let the bad guys get away with violent attacks, unopposed. I'm not opposed to pacifists who are willing to stick to their non-violence committment to the end, but I don't think that is effective against the nazis. I try to never be in the wrong, never to be an aggressor committing an offense against someone else.

With that approach, it's possible I'll be outmatched, but I don't feel the added sting of getting beat and feeling like I was the bad guy on top of it. I don't want to start trouble with someone who is apparently weaker than me, because that's cowardly, but I don't mind threatening them if they are trying to victimize someone who they think is weaker. I had a good one with a trumper pre-election like that, where he was threatening a young lady with 2 kids, one was an autistic kid about 10 years old.

Never murder mouth them, never run my mouth about how I'm going to kill them or put them into the hospital, etc., which I find is a standard rightie move. I don't like to make predictions. I say 'It sounds like you want to fight me. Go ahead, take a swing. You better kill me.' It's been quite a while since any one of them has taken me up on the invite, they back away gibbering, figure out some reason why they can't do it, etc. They have to think they won before they throw the first punch. Of course with a gang of nazis out together looking for trouble, they already think they won when they come upon a numerically far-inferior opponent.

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