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63. I will not sweep stein's responsibiity in this Planetary Crisis under the rug..

Sat Jan 28, 2017, 01:34 AM

Jan 2017

"US Green Party presidential candidate Jill Stein has said that her supporters should "absolutely not" vote for Hillary Clinton to stop a Donald Trump presidency, even in a swing state.

In an interview with Mehdi Hasan, host of Al Jazeera's Upfront, Stein said that Clinton "is not different enough" from the New York real estate businessman, to enable her or the Democratic Party "to save your job, save your life, or save the planet."

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2016/09/jill-stein-hillary-trump-presidency-160928210338543.html

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Jill Stein spoiled the 2016 election for Hillary Clinton [View all] still_one Jan 2017 OP

Please, enough of this. PJMcK Jan 2017 #1

I agree Angry Dragon Jan 2017 #2

Agree... physioex Jan 2017 #3

the Russians were involved with pushing Stein too sarah FAILIN Jan 2017 #29

I think we need to be reminded of this daily since the Dem shaming thing is common bettyellen Jan 2017 #4

Agreed. We need more frequent reminders. nt stevenleser Jan 2017 #40

No, we need the facts ... if the info is factual its good for us... period uponit7771 Jan 2017 #9

Well OK. It was Stein. truebluegreen Jan 2017 #84

No. These are FACTS that will not be swept under the rug. Cha Jan 2017 #19

Why? We keep hearing that we have to "learn from our mistakes". George II Jan 2017 #28

Why? The Greenies gave us both Trump and Bush Gothmog Jan 2017 #43

Why enough? Where is Jill Stein now? Blue_true Jan 2017 #66

And this post is accomplishing what? Chasstev365 Jan 2017 #5

Facts, I'd like to know what happened and why uponit7771 Jan 2017 #20

Actually, it was Trump voters who spoiled the election for Hil. If only enough had voted for Hil ... Mika Jan 2017 #6

Exactly VoicesAcrossAmerica Jan 2017 #21

There was a leadership deficit in one of the major factions, and there were lapucelle Jan 2017 #80

What, are you denying the FACT of the OP? Cha Jan 2017 #24

My icon was intended for the Trump voters who didn't vote for Hillary. Period. Mika Jan 2017 #26

trump voters were never going to vote for Hillary.. they were fed Cha Jan 2017 #54

And let's not leave out the "responsible" Republicans who voted for Johnson... JHB Jan 2017 #36

You got to be kidding Gothmog Jan 2017 #44

True. Snackshack Jan 2017 #76

Even I'm sick of this and I had one big mouth for while over it all nini Jan 2017 #7

And how may votes did the Libertarians get? Tom Rinaldo Jan 2017 #8

Maybe if the DNC chair hadnt been so wildly out of step on locking up medical marijuana users Warren DeMontague Jan 2017 #30

And she had dinner or lunch with Putin in Russia. I wonder if he influenced applegrove Jan 2017 #10

That is not demonstrated by the linked article FBaggins Jan 2017 #11

Gore lost FL by less than 1,000 votes. Nader got way, way more than that. LisaL Jan 2017 #12

If Gore would have won his home state, cloudbase Jan 2017 #79

Tell that to Trump. LisaL Jan 2017 #83

+1 dawg Jan 2017 #90

Gore won after all the votes were finally tallied. Rex Jan 2017 #17

No he didn't. former9thward Jan 2017 #58

One of the reasons we now have tRump. Along with her politically "pure" devotees. Cattledog Jan 2017 #13

The comment section is priceless. Rex Jan 2017 #14

Aww geesh. Not this shit again. madinmaryland Jan 2017 #15

No candidate is owed or entitled to votes. How does anybody know m-lekktor Jan 2017 #16

But every citizen ... NanceGreggs Jan 2017 #72

Message auto-removed Name removed Jan 2017 #92

Aside from being a recurring pita on DU, taking pride in helping to elect Don and uppityperson Jan 2017 #94

total bull shit, keep beating the same drum and lose the next election, and all credibility. juxtaposed Jan 2017 #18

Give it a rest. TheCowsCameHome Jan 2017 #22

Right, our candidate couldn't swing another .3% so a 3rd party's 1% is to blame. RadiationTherapy Jan 2017 #23

".....this time the damage done could very well be unrecoverable." Tarheel_Dem Jan 2017 #25

Yes. Along with a host of others. democratisphere Jan 2017 #27

Glad to see this is back ALIVE! We can certainly discuss Cha Jan 2017 #31

You're never going to hold together the Democratic party by vote shaming third party candidates meadowlander Jan 2017 #32

This false equivalence Jamaal510 Jan 2017 #46

+1 bravenak Jan 2017 #73

Putin's puppetta Generator Jan 2017 #33

The thing that enrages me is she has vanished. Blue_true Jan 2017 #67

Thanks. So the Green party tossed the win to the Rethugs -- AGAIN. pnwmom Jan 2017 #34

The thing that gets me is that except for Blue_true Jan 2017 #68

What was her motivation? Surely she's intelligent enough to know she couldn't win... NurseJackie Jan 2017 #35

I am pretty sure it is the same logic that Ralph Nader, that a trump election still_one Jan 2017 #37

She made money for herself and her party, especially afterwards with pnwmom Jan 2017 #69

Did you miss your chance to post this Dec 2016 article in post-mortem or are you resurrecting it? aikoaiko Jan 2017 #38

December 2016 was just a few weeks ago. George II Jan 2017 #39

The article is 8-weeks old and it was hashed out ad nauseam if you recall. aikoaiko Jan 2017 #48

Oh it's very compelling.. jill stein said there was no difference Cha Jan 2017 #47

That might be interesting article to discuss, but that's not what this is OP is about. aikoaiko Jan 2017 #49

It does need to be pointed out that stein got that Cha Jan 2017 #51

Sure, if you think Jill Stein voters would have pull Hillary through had the Green party not existed aikoaiko Jan 2017 #56

It's not "my world" I'm talking about. It's the Planet.. the Cha Jan 2017 #59

Sure those two facts are true but the 1st doesn't necessarily cause the 2nd aikoaiko Jan 2017 #61

I will not sweep stein's responsibiity in this Planetary Crisis under the rug.. Cha Jan 2017 #63

Actually it is, when Jill Stein said that her supporters should absolutely not vote for Hillary still_one Jan 2017 #55

Thank you for this OP nt stevenleser Jan 2017 #41

Stein helped elect Trump Gothmog Jan 2017 #42

No kidding! And, under false pretenses too... her and sarandon. Cha Jan 2017 #45

Post removed Post removed Jan 2017 #50

Let's give credit to my favorite group. HassleCat Jan 2017 #52

There is a special place in hell for Jill Stein! hrmjustin Jan 2017 #53

Why people were motivated to vote for her loyalsister Jan 2017 #86

So? What's your point? Captain Stern Jan 2017 #57

good point, but it is your last sentence, that drives the point home. That a group still_one Jan 2017 #60

Trumpists spoiled the election bhikkhu Jan 2017 #62

Swing state voters who DID NOT vote for Hillary bear responsibility oasis Jan 2017 #64

Jill Stein was Putin's OTHER useful fucking IDIOT in the 2016 elections. Maru Kitteh Jan 2017 #65

Yes. And last year she had dinner in Russia, seated at the same table with Putin. pnwmom Jan 2017 #70

Putin sure looked happy about it, that's for sure! Home run for him. Maru Kitteh Jan 2017 #71

Well, fucking plan for it n2doc Jan 2017 #74

No. People willing to listen to her did. MineralMan Jan 2017 #75

It's everyone's fault but the Clinton campaign. killbotfactory Jan 2017 #77

Well, finally rock Jan 2017 #78

Codswollop. truebluegreen Jan 2017 #81

I worried about it starting with the primary...I had hoped...but Demsrule86 Jan 2017 #82

I wonder how it might work if the Dems invite the Greens to be part of the administration? California_Republic Jan 2017 #85

No candidate is entitled to votes. They have to earn them. n/t Throd 2.0 Jan 2017 #87

Post removed Post removed Jan 2017 #88

Have you tried origami? uppityperson Jan 2017 #91

No Republican Governors blocked the ability for Democratic voters to vote. UCmeNdc Jan 2017 #89

She was certainly a factor. dawg Jan 2017 #93

Plenty of Democrats didn't actually turn out. alarimer Jan 2017 #95

Stein scammed donors with her bogus recount Gothmog Jan 2017 #96

Yes, she did.. she owns trump.. she's part owner of this planetary crisis. Cha Jan 2017 #97

Everyone knew the stakes Wabbajack_ Jan 2017 #98

They should have known, but not unlike those who watch fox news, they were still_one Jan 2017 #99