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Spider Jerusalem

(21,786 posts)
6. British Medical Journal: Science rules MMR didn't trigger autism
Tue Jun 26, 2012, 02:12 AM
Jun 2012

(reposted from your other, locked thread):

There is no scientific or medical evidence supporting any link whatever between vaccinations and autism. Countless studies have failed to establish such a link. The author of the initial paper positing such a link was found guilty of serious professional misconduct and research fraud and struck off the medical register in the UK. The decisions of an Italian court do not change this basic FACT. See below:

Wakefield’s article linking MMR vaccine and autism was fraudulent
Clear evidence of falsification of data should now close the door on this damaging vaccine scare

“Science is at once the most questioning and . . . sceptical of activities and also the most trusting,” said Arnold Relman, former editor of the New England Journal of Medicine, in 1989. “It is intensely sceptical about the possibility of error, but totally trusting about the possibility of fraud.”1 Never has this been truer than of the 1998 Lancet paper that implied a link between the measles, mumps, and rubella (MMR) vaccine and a “new syndrome” of autism and bowel disease.

Authored by Andrew Wakefield and 12 others, the paper’s scientific limitations were clear when it appeared in 1998.2 3 As the ensuing vaccine scare took off, critics quickly pointed out that the paper was a small case series with no controls, linked three common conditions, and relied on parental recall and beliefs.4 Over the following decade, epidemiological studies consistently found no evidence of a link between the MMR vaccine and autism.5 6 7 8 By the time the paper was finally retracted 12 years later,9 after forensic dissection at the General Medical Council’s (GMC) longest ever fitness to practise hearing,10 few people could deny that it was fatally flawed both scientifically and ethically. But it has taken the diligent scepticism of one man, standing outside medicine and science, to show that the paper was in fact an elaborate fraud.

In a series of articles starting this week, and seven years after first looking into the MMR scare, journalist Brian Deer now shows the extent of Wakefield’s fraud and how it was perpetrated. Drawing on interviews, documents, and data made public at the GMC hearings, Deer shows how Wakefield altered numerous facts about the patients’ medical histories in order to support his claim to have identified a new syndrome; how his institution, the Royal Free Hospital and Medical School in London, supported him as he sought to exploit the ensuing MMR scare for financial gain; and how key players failed to investigate thoroughly in the public interest when Deer first raised his concerns.11

http://www.bmj.com/content/342/bmj.c7452



How the case against the MMR vaccine was fixed

(snip)

Mr 11, an American engineer, looked again at the paper: a five page case series of 11 boys and one girl, aged between 3 and 9 years. Nine children, it said, had diagnoses of “regressive” autism, and all but one were reported with “non-specific colitis.” The “new syndrome” brought these together, linking brain and bowel diseases. His son was the penultimate case.

Running his finger across the paper’s tables, over coffee in London, Mr 11 seemed reassured by his anonymised son’s age and other details. But then he pointed at table 2—headed “neuropsychiatric diagnosis”—and for a second time objected.

“That’s not true.”

Child 11 was among the eight whose parents apparently blamed MMR. The interval between his vaccination and the first “behavioural symptom” was reported as 1 week. This symptom was said to have appeared at age 15 months. But his father, whom I had tracked down, said this was wrong.

“From the information you provided me on our son, who I was shocked to hear had been included in their published study,” he wrote to me, after we met again in California, “the data clearly appeared to be distorted.”


But child 11’s case must have proved a disappointment. Records show his behavioural symptoms started too soon. “His developmental milestones were normal until 13 months of age,” notes the discharge summary. “In the period 13-18 months he developed slow speech patterns and repetitive hand movements. Over this period his parents remarked on his slow gradual deterioration.”

That put the first symptom two months earlier than reported in the Lancet, and a month before the boy received the MMR vaccination. And this was not the only anomaly to catch the father’s eye. What the paper reported as a “behavioural symptom” was noted in the records as a chest infection.

http://www.bmj.com/content/342/bmj.c5347.full
Rebuttal in reverse chronology to the stupendously oversimplistic platitudes on that locked thread. proverbialwisdom Jun 2012 #1
Age of Autism? FFS... SidDithers Jun 2012 #2
Actually CNN, CBS, NPR in Boston, WNYC, and PBS are the sources for interviews with - proverbialwisdom Jun 2012 #3
Sorry, this is a stupendous pile of steaming horseshit Spider Jerusalem Jun 2012 #7
Find a source from 2012. Hint: does not exist, the field has evolved. proverbialwisdom Jun 2012 #11
I urge you to please spend some time reading this 2012 HARVARD HEALTH PUBLICATION. proverbialwisdom Jun 2012 #15
Are you a scientologist? snooper2 Jun 2012 #45
Good one. (eom) proverbialwisdom Jun 2012 #53
They must have had some evidence presented in Italian court? Ghost of Huey Long Jun 2012 #16
While I can't answer to the rest of your "debunking" 1monster Jun 2012 #36
There has never been any evidence Sgent Jun 2012 #65
Watch CNN'S interview with former CDC Chief Julie Gerberding on March 31, 2008 (post #1) . proverbialwisdom Jun 2012 #74
I think the transcript is sufficient, but for a copy of the video, instructions follow. proverbialwisdom Jun 2012 #76
Dupe. Deleted. n/t Ms. Toad Jun 2012 #80
You are wrong about the presence of thimerosol in vaccines. Ms. Toad Jun 2012 #81
well said and posters who pile on Tumbulu Jun 2012 #69
The MMR vaccine has never had thimerosal. Spider Jerusalem Jun 2012 #77
Thimerosal is still contained in some childhood vaccines Ms. Toad Jun 2012 #82
"use of inaccurate facts to shut down discussion"? Spider Jerusalem Jun 2012 #84
"thimerosal was totally removed from all childhood vaccines in 2001" Ms. Toad Jun 2012 #87
TL:DR, but the MMR vaccine (which is specifically at issue here).. Spider Jerusalem Jun 2012 #111
I did not bring up thimerosal. Ms. Toad Jun 2012 #112
The original post to which I was responding DID. Spider Jerusalem Jun 2012 #113
If you want to go that direction, Ms. Toad Jun 2012 #114
I thought they stopped using mercury a long time ago ryan_cats Jun 2012 #98
The original paper alleging a link between vaccines and autism is a proven fraud cpwm17 Jun 2012 #21
False. This is in the weeds for me, but if you are seriously interested, examine these with care. proverbialwisdom Jul 2012 #129
This message was self-deleted by its author Luminous Animal Jun 2012 #4
Unlocking. Luminous Animal Jun 2012 #5
Truthfully, posts #6 and #8 are in the weeds for me, but not for the AoA contributors, the majority proverbialwisdom Jun 2012 #9
You bet I have a personal stake SunsetDreams Jun 2012 #38
Truthfully, this subject makes me unspeakably sad and I will be stepping away for awhile. (eom) proverbialwisdom Jun 2012 #63
AoA as a source? obamanut2012 Jun 2012 #54
Post #3 describes the news aggregating function by AoA from mainstream sources. proverbialwisdom Jun 2012 #71
Good. This Italian court ruling is not a conspiracy theory. n/t lumberjack_jeff Jun 2012 #29
British Medical Journal: Science rules MMR didn't trigger autism Spider Jerusalem Jun 2012 #6
Manufacturing a controversy about the MMR vaccine SunsetDreams Jun 2012 #8
You mention Japan: their vaccines have NEVER contained mercury compounds Lydia Leftcoast Jun 2012 #20
Changing diagnoses can only explain about half of the increased prevalence. lumberjack_jeff Jun 2012 #32
Research being done SunsetDreams Jun 2012 #64
Of course its environmental toxins Drale Jun 2012 #126
I have to wonder if it's something that corporations make a lot of money off of Lydia Leftcoast Jun 2012 #128
So one locked thread over anti-vaccine bullshit wasn't enough? GarroHorus Jun 2012 #10
why did you alert on a news story from the Independent, that was a fast reaction too Ghost of Huey Long Jun 2012 #17
I have a special contempt for conspiracy theorists. n/t GarroHorus Jun 2012 #19
Pushing the antivac bullshit is killing people. Warren Stupidity Jun 2012 #33
Post removed Post removed Jun 2012 #52
I have special contempt for anti-vaxxer woo-woo. backscatter712 Jun 2012 #12
I had mumps, measles, and chickenpox as a kid GarroHorus Jun 2012 #13
+1 Chorophyll Jun 2012 #14
Amen! I had measles and chicken pox in the same year, and the secondary infections Lydia Leftcoast Jun 2012 #18
Because Vaccines have been useful in the past, we are all to now blindly believe Big Pharma Ghost of Huey Long Jun 2012 #22
Did you see my post about Japan? Lydia Leftcoast Jun 2012 #23
Maybe there is something else in it causing the problem. How can we fix it if we live in denial? Ghost of Huey Long Jun 2012 #26
just keep all your anti-vac friends away from my newborn granddaughter. n/t progressivebydesign Jun 2012 #37
Try a netti pot. tridim Jun 2012 #28
That's interesting, but remember, the Japanese as a nation eat a lot of fish... 1monster Jun 2012 #39
Every assertion about vaccines has been debunked GarroHorus Jun 2012 #24
Who has an interest in lying? Big Pharma or parents of children who have been harmed? Ghost of Huey Long Jun 2012 #25
Anti-Vaccine people are out to kill everybody. GarroHorus Jun 2012 #31
There are ingredients in vaccines causing autism, denail is a republican tactic Ghost of Huey Long Jun 2012 #34
Full debunked conspiracy theory nonsense GarroHorus Jun 2012 #35
your jury results (from juror #2) Kali Jun 2012 #43
. GarroHorus Jun 2012 #44
I was juror #3. Still trying to sufrommich Jun 2012 #47
hosts are really limited in what they can lock Kali Jun 2012 #61
delusion is another repuke trait Kali Jun 2012 #42
Wrongo obamanut2012 Jun 2012 #58
Jenny McCarthy and Andrew Wakefield and AoA obamanut2012 Jun 2012 #55
I'm sure Big Pharma makes much more on vaccines Ghost of Huey Long Jun 2012 #68
Hey, pal, it's all good! florida evans Jun 2012 #51
Why is "trusty" in scare quotes? obamanut2012 Jun 2012 #60
What precisely is preventing you from becoming infected with/by various diseases? LanternWaste Jun 2012 #66
That will have to be answered SunsetDreams Jun 2012 #67
Probably not the first time, either...nt SidDithers Jun 2012 #72
Herd immunity. Warren Stupidity Jun 2012 #78
As someone who's liver is shot. ForgoTheConsequence Jun 2012 #27
Ah jeez proud2BlibKansan Jun 2012 #30
The Italian Court got it wrong. hedgehog Jun 2012 #40
Giuliano Mignini must have been on vacation obamanut2012 Jun 2012 #56
For those going "Huh?" hedgehog Jun 2012 #59
+1 obamanut2012 Jun 2012 #62
It's amazing how some on the Left proudly claim to be MicaelS Jun 2012 #41
Just because somebody says they are left of center or a liberal doesn't mean they are smart.. snooper2 Jun 2012 #48
Nice graphic, where did you get that? n/t MicaelS Jun 2012 #49
Just did a google image search for ( political circle ) snooper2 Jun 2012 #50
Jenny McCarthy Body Count... SidDithers Jun 2012 #46
Excellent illustration. backscatter712 Jun 2012 #79
I blame the existence of this thread on MTV obamanut2012 Jun 2012 #57
I blame groupthink on a massive brainwashing effort by the corporate media manufacturing consent Ghost of Huey Long Jun 2012 #70
It is true that without vaccines there would be fewer children with autism. 4th law of robotics Jun 2012 #73
why are the rates rising so fast? Have the pro toxic vaccines people been to a public school lately? Ghost of Huey Long Jun 2012 #85
Many parents *think* they've witnessed the beginnings immediately after receiving vaccines. Posteritatis Jun 2012 #86
It wasn't classified as it's own disorder until the 1960s 4th law of robotics Jun 2012 #88
I attended school then, have you been to a school now? Ghost of Huey Long Jun 2012 #91
It's bogus conspiracy theory neo-Luddite bullshit GarroHorus Jun 2012 #92
And unfortunately they aren't going to be the ones who suffer 4th law of robotics Jun 2012 #94
your reaction proves you have no argument Ghost of Huey Long Jun 2012 #122
Your thread proves you are a conspiracy theorist GarroHorus Jun 2012 #123
This is the very definition of an anecdotal argument 4th law of robotics Jun 2012 #93
Rise in Autism proven by statistics. The rebuttle 'they didn't diagnose it' is a joke Ghost of Huey Long Jun 2012 #96
"Rise in Autism proven by statistics" 4th law of robotics Jun 2012 #103
With the millions of kids getting vaccinated every year some will be diagnosed with autism cpwm17 Jun 2012 #99
I'm sure there were people who got vaccinated, stepped outside the doctors office 4th law of robotics Jun 2012 #104
Courts, even in Italy, do not conduct MineralMan Jun 2012 #75
*facepalm* sakabatou Jun 2012 #83
If we demand that the anti-evolutionists use reasoned, scientific thought processes to refute... randome Jun 2012 #89
Do anecdotes count in place of evidence? 4th law of robotics Jun 2012 #90
Actually, anecdotes SHOULD count. If they numbered in the thousands, maybe. randome Jun 2012 #100
Ok but are we taking in to account cup size? 4th law of robotics Jun 2012 #105
I demand a scientific explanation for the rise in Autism- 'didn't diagnose it' is not scientific Ghost of Huey Long Jun 2012 #97
Global warming is on the rise. Obesity is on the rise. The price of grape jelly is on the rise. randome Jun 2012 #101
Don't give them ideas 4th law of robotics Jun 2012 #107
you might be on to something- Study Finds High-Fructose Corn Syrup Contains Mercury Ghost of Huey Long Jun 2012 #124
Groan . . . 4th law of robotics Jun 2012 #125
Can you acknowledge the fact that it was not defined as a disorder 4th law of robotics Jun 2012 #106
What we have to look forward to due to the idiot anti-vaxxers GarroHorus Jun 2012 #95
Ugh. I feel strange saying 'Thanks' for these photos. randome Jun 2012 #102
Don't understand the hostility to making sure vaccines are safe CleanLucre Jun 2012 #108
That's not really the issue 4th law of robotics Jun 2012 #110
The reality is that there are still some things we don't know Ms. Toad Jun 2012 #115
From your articles: 4th law of robotics Jun 2012 #116
You indicated we know how vaccines work. Ms. Toad Jun 2012 #119
This is the same country charging seismologists with manslaughter for not predicting an earthquake NickB79 Jun 2012 #109
Please stop calling the parents idiots! tova Jun 2012 #117
Egg allergies are the single most common food allergy for infants/toddlers. They are not a factor Godhumor Jun 2012 #118
Reaction to shots tova Jun 2012 #120
There are guidelines for who should not get them Godhumor Jun 2012 #121
Jesus mother fucking christ pscot Jun 2012 #127
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