"Bernie Sanders Muddles Allys Message in DNC Race" (Reply #131)

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131. "Bernie Sanders Muddles Allys Message in DNC Race"

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In the inside-baseball struggle to be the next chairman of the Democratic National Committee, Minnesota Rep. Keith Ellison and his biggest supporter, Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders, are sending conflicting signals.

Ellison has made his campaign all about uniting the party, while Sanders keeps highlighting the divide exposed during his presidential primary against Hillary Clinton last year. That more confrontational approach risks undermining Ellison's message and turning off the Democratic insiders who sit on the DNC, which will elect its next leader later this month.

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Ellison himself had nothing but nice things to say about the development.

"I admire and respect Vice-President Biden. He has given great service to our country as a U.S. Senator and in the White House," the congressman said in a statement. "Vice-President Biden is known for loyalty to people he has worked with, and I can certainly appreciate him wanting to support Tom, who worked in the Administration."

http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/bernie-sanders-muddles-ally-s-message-dnc-race-n715651

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Sanders reopens Dem primary wounds [View all]	otohara	Feb 2017	OP
What the what?	LisaM	Feb 2017	#1
If Bernie wants to run the Democratic Party...	kstewart33	Feb 2017	#38
I feel the same way.	LisaM	Feb 2017	#41
I agree. nt	kstewart33	Feb 2017	#45
+1	blue cat	Feb 2017	#277
Sanders needs to change his FEC filings to run as a democrat in 2018	Gothmog	Feb 2017	#77
He won't. He'd look like a hypocrite if he did.	MADem	Feb 2017	#201
From your keyboard ...	NurseJackie	Feb 2017	#291
I checked and his 2018 Senate campaign has him as Independent.	LiberalFighter	Feb 2017	#325
Why does it matter?	billfmsd	Feb 2017	#120
It matters if he wants to control the direction of the party	BainsBane	Feb 2017	#128
Having an opinion doesn't mean he wants to control the party.	billfmsd	Feb 2017	#148
It looks like far more than having an opinion to me	BainsBane	Feb 2017	#151
He's not forcing people to agree with him. It's just an opinion.	billfmsd	Feb 2017	#159
This video makes my point clearly enough	BainsBane	Feb 2017	#163
I didn't change my argument.	billfmsd	Feb 2017	#173
Let me ask you this, Who did CNN ask to debate Ted Cruz about healthcare.	Jim Beard	Feb 2017	#186
How are TV ratings	BainsBane	Feb 2017	#189
That's just political popcorn. It means nothing.	MADem	Feb 2017	#209
Bingo	Justice	Feb 2017	#215
Quite different with GOP.	Demsrule86	Feb 2017	#236
What, exactly, is wrong with wanting to decide who holds the chair?	sammythecat	Feb 2017	#268
Only members of the party are allowed to run for chair.	lapucelle	Feb 2017	#169
You might be right.	billfmsd	Feb 2017	#177
I have a hunch you'd be wrong. As the previous poster said, he couldn't even deliver his own	politicaljunkie41910	Feb 2017	#272
Great point.	LisaM	Feb 2017	#278
Most Dems would likely disagree with that.	kstewart33	Feb 2017	#176
Bernie puts positions on issues before party.	billfmsd	Feb 2017	#181
Let's agree to disagree.	kstewart33	Feb 2017	#182
Agreeing to disagree, but not sure if we are disagreeing on the same things.	billfmsd	Feb 2017	#184
He won't be joining it. He's already said so. Unless you think he'll go back on his word.	MADem	Feb 2017	#197
This message was self-deleted by its author	billfmsd	Feb 2017	#200
Not yet, or not at all?	billfmsd	Feb 2017	#203
Never. That's how he's played it to this point, anyway.	MADem	Feb 2017	#207
Point well made and taken. nt	kstewart33	Feb 2017	#260
+1!!! THIS	Dustlawyer	Feb 2017	#229
I support Tom Perez and so I am glad that Sanders is making these comments	Gothmog	Feb 2017	#264
Sanders wants to control the party but not be a part of the party	Gothmog	Feb 2017	#262
I know! Right? I mean, seriously now ... WTF?!	NurseJackie	Feb 2017	#292
I wonder why nobody ever says stuff like this to Republicans.	WinkyDink	Feb 2017	#319
By that logic	LiberalFighter	Feb 2017	#327
Keyword "almost." And he had certainly ran against Democratic candidates in Vermont	question everything	Feb 2017	#179
It matters.	Demsrule86	Feb 2017	#235
Unity, or Uniformity?	billfmsd	Feb 2017	#287
I don't care what you call it...	Demsrule86	Feb 2017	#300
Message auto-removed	Name removed	Feb 2017	#306
Right well we would not want to consider an plan that has netted	Demsrule86	Feb 2017	#310
Message auto-removed	Name removed	Feb 2017	#311
Imagine what if it would have meant in terms of unity had Bernie	Demsrule86	Feb 2017	#234
I agree. I checked the Senate page and he is still listed as an Independent.	LiberalFighter	Feb 2017	#324
I support Tom Perez and so I am glad that Sanders is making these comments	Gothmog	Feb 2017	#263
What's the swipe?	geomon666	Feb 2017	#2
I agree totally	lsewpershad	Feb 2017	#12
They didn't win because of Comey's last minute letter bombs. And Sanders is deluding himself	pnwmom	Feb 2017	#21
BS!	Chasstev365	Feb 2017	#28
That isn't even the issue	BainsBane	Feb 2017	#70
Thank you for reminding us of the FACTS ...	NurseJackie	Feb 2017	#95
The GOP had a lot waiting for Sanders and O'Malley--possibly including a bogus FBI investigation.	StevieM	Feb 2017	#122
That was only one of many factors.	billfmsd	Feb 2017	#126
Exactly	HopeAgain	Feb 2017	#135
And the list would have been long no matter who our candidate was	pnwmom	Feb 2017	#150
If no one single factor was responsible for the loss, then Sanders	lapucelle	Feb 2017	#165
simplistic commercial branding for the lowest common denominator.	LanternWaste	Feb 2017	#322
True. Comey cancelled out the damage done to Trump by the Acccess Holywood tape release	Tom Rinaldo	Feb 2017	#174
The Trump tape was real. The Comey letter was a smoke bomb	pnwmom	Feb 2017	#183
Hillary respects the Constitutuion, Trump doesn't . She is highly qualified, he not at all etc.	Tom Rinaldo	Feb 2017	#232
That talking point is old. The Clinton camp is blaming Obama now.	PotatoChip	Feb 2017	#241
I've heard that talking point a few times this week.	lapucelle	Feb 2017	#266
Here you go...	PotatoChip	Feb 2017	#269
That's what you're talking about? Rumors and gossip?	pnwmom	Feb 2017	#271
"Numerous anguished clitonites"? That's Mike Allen's "source"?	lapucelle	Feb 2017	#280
I don't care what the "Clinton camp" is saying (according to you).	pnwmom	Feb 2017	#270
Was Bernie under investigation by the FBI?	Motown_Johnny	Feb 2017	#296
How would we know? There was that Ponzi scheme related to EB-5 visas in Vermont.	pnwmom	Feb 2017	#299
Agreed	Sherman A1	Feb 2017	#27
Exactly.	dchill	Feb 2017	#32
Biden wasn't on the ticket	mythology	Feb 2017	#40
Ditto on it all	JustAnotherGen	Feb 2017	#137
Did Russia hack the election? Shit kicking is useless with non LIVs	uponit7771	Feb 2017	#60
Trump destroyed the status quo	BainsBane	Feb 2017	#66
++++++++	JHan	Feb 2017	#188
I reread his comments and checked myself to see if my initial impression was an overreaction..	JHan	Feb 2017	#202
Why does he say "we" when he's not actually a part?	AleksS	Feb 2017	#314
👆 This.	Snackshack	Feb 2017	#67
No The DNC needs a refocus of priorities from the BOTTOM up. The top down shit is what	Vincardog	Feb 2017	#281
It's the top...	Snackshack	Feb 2017	#283
+1	leftstreet	Feb 2017	#69
The point is the people voting consider it a swipe	BainsBane	Feb 2017	#75
People voting consider it a swipe? Not true -- a lot of us voted and don't	KPN	Feb 2017	#112
Voting for DNC chair	BainsBane	Feb 2017	#115
I agree with Sanders as well.nt	m-lekktor	Feb 2017	#81
Yup. Not a swipe, but a "perceived swipe" on the part those who refuse to recognize	KPN	Feb 2017	#97
Millions of Democrats	BainsBane	Feb 2017	#107
Oh, so Ellison won't do that?	KPN	Feb 2017	#117
Bernie and you insisted Perez was the status quo	BainsBane	Feb 2017	#125
So why are you pushing Perez if you don't have a position on	KPN	Feb 2017	#261
Yep. It's not a swipe.	Hassin Bin Sober	Feb 2017	#328
Why doesn't Bernie become a Democrat? Keith Ellison, and Tom Perez are Democrats	still_one	Feb 2017	#136
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+1000000!	SammyWinstonJack	Feb 2017	#167
Maybe sometimes it's better to not be so vocal. I do not want to hear opposition against the	TrekLuver	Feb 2017	#3
We need a common front. There is more that unites us than divides us.	DemocratSinceBirth	Feb 2017	#8
I think that movie was Denzel Washington's best performance	NWCorona	Feb 2017	#13
Drumpf's black friends remind me of the soldier Denzel's character called snowflake.	DemocratSinceBirth	Feb 2017	#17
Schumer invited him into Democratic Leadership. This is Bernie leading.	aikoaiko	Feb 2017	#129
Unity for the sake of unity is bullshit.	alarimer	Feb 2017	#275
The only one who is trying to divide and conquer is you. Unrec. n/t	demmiblue	Feb 2017	#4
Indeed...	DURHAM D	Feb 2017	#19
+1	CentralMass	Feb 2017	#20
Amen. n/t	QC	Feb 2017	#61
This!	KPN	Feb 2017	#99
Agree. So sick of seeing this stuff and I voted for Hillary enthusiastically a month early. nt	Quixote1818	Feb 2017	#138
Indeed.	azmom	Feb 2017	#267
Because this is the first unhelpful comment by Sanders? ..... the answer is no	uponit7771	Feb 2017	#286
Keep fighting that primary!	Iggo	Feb 2017	#5
Why should Sanders have ANY say about the DNC Chair?	NastyRiffraff	Feb 2017	#6
k	Go Vols	Feb 2017	#30
That doesn't address her question	BainsBane	Feb 2017	#47
Thems the facts!!	KPN	Feb 2017	#102
k	NastyRiffraff	Feb 2017	#204
Then he should be a Democrat...from what I see...	Demsrule86	Feb 2017	#258
Though he's voted Democrat more often than ANY Democrat throughout his Congressional career..	KPN	Feb 2017	#114
Because of the millions of Democrats who voted for him and donated to him.	Motown_Johnny	Feb 2017	#297
This seems a bit of a reach	gratuitous	Feb 2017	#7
Bernie, commit to the party. Don't just become a Dem to run for president then leave again	delisen	Feb 2017	#9
Bingo. Want to run the Democrat Party? Join the Democratic Party. nt	kstewart33	Feb 2017	#42
He didn't just "leave again". Bernie had always said that if he should lose his Presidential bid,	FourScore	Feb 2017	#294
Sanders isn't the one picking at scabs. This is much ado about nothing.	DLevine	Feb 2017	#10
Boy, reading the entire comment	Uponthegears	Feb 2017	#22
Yup. nt	DLevine	Feb 2017	#24
Is Bernie Off Limits?	otohara	Feb 2017	#29
Where did he smear the Democratic party? nt	DLevine	Feb 2017	#31
Apparently for SOME	Uponthegears	Feb 2017	#33
I Doubt Anyone From Team Tom	otohara	Feb 2017	#36
Try this on for size	Uponthegears	Feb 2017	#49
So the truth is the truth according to Bernie Sanders...	JHan	Feb 2017	#190
That's garbage and you know it.	Uponthegears	Feb 2017	#239
I will question any person - whether Rep /Dem/Ind - who comes with that kind of smear..	JHan	Feb 2017	#244
Bernie said EXACTLY	Uponthegears	Feb 2017	#245
And Perez is for all the things that you mentioned AFAIK,	JHan	Feb 2017	#246
Well that was disturbingly disarming	Uponthegears	Feb 2017	#247
I love Ellison - I haven't agreed with him on everything but he's a stand up guy..	JHan	Feb 2017	#248
Let me repeat	Uponthegears	Feb 2017	#249
Thank you too :)	JHan	Feb 2017	#256
I'm sure this thread will get alerted. If you mention Bernie and primary in the same sentence	TrekLuver	Feb 2017	#94
Maybe the rule should be that we are allowed to criticize non-Democrats	lapucelle	Feb 2017	#171
Sanders remarks will hurt Ellison's chances	Gothmog	Feb 2017	#78
Oh ffs.	DLevine	Feb 2017	#84
If you read the article	BainsBane	Feb 2017	#93
Did you read what Bernie actually said?	DLevine	Feb 2017	#96
I agree we need to pull together	BainsBane	Feb 2017	#98
That article does not accurately describe what Bernie said.	DLevine	Feb 2017	#104
That's unfortunate	BainsBane	Feb 2017	#108
He actually called them part of "a failed status quo"	ybbor	Feb 2017	#145
Perez isn't the same thing	BainsBane	Feb 2017	#149
Perhaps Bernie should concern himself with fighting Trump and leave the Democratic	Demsrule86	Feb 2017	#259
I agree. In issuing a statement in response to Biden's endorsement,	lapucelle	Feb 2017	#175
+1	uponit7771	Feb 2017	#221
i agree with sanders, joe and the rest should have put	okieinpain	Feb 2017	#11
What an odd comment.	DURHAM D	Feb 2017	#18
thinking about it that might help.	okieinpain	Feb 2017	#25
Too many "memes" in 2016, not enough facts.	emulatorloo	Feb 2017	#39
"All that energy"	BainsBane	Feb 2017	#119
his preference is the same old deal. i was for hillary	okieinpain	Feb 2017	#321
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Bravo Bernie	jodymarie aimee	Feb 2017	#15
So	Jakes Progress	Feb 2017	#111
Nothing against Sanders	Phoenix61	Feb 2017	#16
I support Ellison, too, but Sanders didn't need to	dmr	Feb 2017	#23
This continuation of a primary fight reminds me of the Confederate types who	guillaumeb	Feb 2017	#26
Join the party if you want a voice, Bernie.	MineralMan	Feb 2017	#34
Bingo.	kstewart33	Feb 2017	#44
Curious	jodymarie aimee	Feb 2017	#51
I do not know.	MineralMan	Feb 2017	#57
I also am on my Dem Exec Bd	jodymarie aimee	Feb 2017	#74
I am not mocking him. I'm pointing out	MineralMan	Feb 2017	#80
For how many years has Biden been	MineralMan	Feb 2017	#87
Mineral Man	jodymarie aimee	Feb 2017	#92
I don't see any mocking	BainsBane	Feb 2017	#90
Voting member. Not a paying member.	billfmsd	Feb 2017	#154
+1,000! nt	MADem	Feb 2017	#211
Like, OMG, can you believe what Bernie said about you Tom? Go slap him!	JHB	Feb 2017	#35
He's certainly not helping with comments like that. It makes me wonder ...	NurseJackie	Feb 2017	#37
Trying to fix a broken Democratic Party.	Motown_Johnny	Feb 2017	#298
"Actually" ... nothing could be further from the truth. Our party is NOT "broken", and ...	NurseJackie	Feb 2017	#301
Message auto-removed	Name removed	Feb 2017	#307
Using the word "better" is an odd way to describe a message that was soundly rejected.	NurseJackie	Feb 2017	#309
Message auto-removed	Name removed	Feb 2017	#312
Some thoughts ...	NurseJackie	Feb 2017	#313
Message auto-removed	Name removed	Feb 2017	#315
Well...	NurseJackie	Feb 2017	#316
I like Bernie	bdamomma	Feb 2017	#43
Got that right.	kstewart33	Feb 2017	#48
Does he want Ellison to lose?	SaschaHM	Feb 2017	#46
I've seen discussion on Twitter	BainsBane	Feb 2017	#53
It's certainly influencing my decision	kcr	Feb 2017	#240
I think it's unfortunate the race for chair is subject	BainsBane	Feb 2017	#50
This is who he is. Never stops fighting.	NCTraveler	Feb 2017	#52
In this case	BainsBane	Feb 2017	#85
That sounds like politics...	sfwriter	Feb 2017	#54
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You really should read the TOS. nt	DLevine	Feb 2017	#71
I have no problem with either Perez or Ellision, but really Bernie, isn't it time	still_one	Feb 2017	#56
Yeah... Sorry Ellison... Distance yourself from Sanders quick	uponit7771	Feb 2017	#58
Sanders is not a Democrat, but an Independent.	The_Voice_of_Reason	Feb 2017	#59
Can you imagine a republican	liquid diamond	Feb 2017	#62
Cult of Personality	Skittles	Feb 2017	#72
+1	BainsBane	Feb 2017	#79
I wish I knew.	The_Voice_of_Reason	Feb 2017	#142
Bernie, like Hillary represents the PAST...and Democrats need to keep their eye on the FUTURE	NoGoodNamesLeft	Feb 2017	#63
wasn't Biden on the winning national ticket twice ? and Perez served under the popular admin ?	JI7	Feb 2017	#64
President Trumputin Bannon is laughing his ass off right about now	workinclasszero	Feb 2017	#65
+1	DLevine	Feb 2017	#73
I'm not with Bernie on this one..	denbot	Feb 2017	#68
I have some friends who are supporting Ellison	Gothmog	Feb 2017	#76
I agree with Bernie	retrowire	Feb 2017	#82
We already got change	BainsBane	Feb 2017	#89
I am pretty sure that Bernie endorsed Ellison long before	HoneyBadger	Feb 2017	#83
Lots of people have endorsed different candidates	BainsBane	Feb 2017	#86
Former Vice President Biden most certainly does have a right to endorse	Cha	Feb 2017	#140
Dear Bernie, become a DEMOCRAT or STFU.	MoonRiver	Feb 2017	#88
VP BIDEN and President Barack Obama are a successful ADMIN .. they	Cha	Feb 2017	#91
Sanders did not call Obama or Biden the status quo. nt	DLevine	Feb 2017	#101
Just Perez?	BainsBane	Feb 2017	#103
Bernie did say he admired Perez.	DLevine	Feb 2017	#118
Here is a video of him making those comments	BainsBane	Feb 2017	#156
Neither is Tom Perez..	Cha	Feb 2017	#110
Perez sounds awesome.	DLevine	Feb 2017	#121
Perez didn't endorse him	BainsBane	Feb 2017	#191
Yes he did, for a whole fuckin year ... including the "establishment"	uponit7771	Feb 2017	#222
I'm talking about his statement referenced in the article.	DLevine	Feb 2017	#230
Yes he did	Gothmog	Feb 2017	#265
I welcome Bernie's comments and support for Keith Ellison.	aikoaiko	Feb 2017	#100
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#Tom Perez DOES speak for Working People!	Cha	Feb 2017	#109
Sanders is correct: "move beyond the failed status-quo"	Talk Is Cheap	Feb 2017	#113
The election just did that	BainsBane	Feb 2017	#116
The thread is about the Dem status quo...	Talk Is Cheap	Feb 2017	#133
The election ended the Democratic status quo	BainsBane	Feb 2017	#146
No he isn't.. Tom Perez is NOT "status quo" BS is wrong.	Cha	Feb 2017	#123
We all have our opinions...	Talk Is Cheap	Feb 2017	#134
And some are not welcome, apparently.	HopeAgain	Feb 2017	#141
Totally agree...	Talk Is Cheap	Feb 2017	#144
the last 24 years have been better for a lot of people than before that	JI7	Feb 2017	#212
WINNER!	nikibatts	Feb 2017	#216
+1	uponit7771	Feb 2017	#223
Well he is right. Blaming Biden I don't know	Thomthom5300	Feb 2017	#124
BERNIE! JOIN THE PARTY!	apcalc	Feb 2017	#127
Whatever helps him sleep at night.	JTFrog	Feb 2017	#130
"Bernie Sanders Muddles Allys Message in DNC Race"	Cha	Feb 2017	#131
The truth hurts but the continuing dismal performance by Democrats nationwide proves Bernie right.	jalan48	Feb 2017	#132
What does that have to do with Perez?	BainsBane	Feb 2017	#153
He's part of the Clinton/Obama wing of the Party. Time to move to the left, not the center.	jalan48	Feb 2017	#155
Says who?	BainsBane	Feb 2017	#158
I think everyone is loyal once the leaders are chosen. The choosing is where the rub is.	jalan48	Feb 2017	#162
Some of us actually think about qualifications	BainsBane	Feb 2017	#168
Unfortunately, I think our Presidential elections have become ones based on personality.	jalan48	Feb 2017	#170
It does.	romanic	Feb 2017	#166
To continue not to recognize Gerrymandering and voter suppression as the MAIN factors	uponit7771	Feb 2017	#224
When millions sit at home rather than vote I'd say we have a problem.	jalan48	Feb 2017	#255
We have a bigger problem making up realities about voter suppression and gerrymandering. Trillions	uponit7771	Feb 2017	#285
I don't know about trillions-that may not be reality. However, millions did stay home this time.	jalan48	Feb 2017	#288
Agreed, voter suppression first... then a message. Stronger Together is unbeatable then and now...	uponit7771	Feb 2017	#289
Totally agree. Suppression cost Gore in 2000 and it's only gotten worse since then.	jalan48	Feb 2017	#290
If I had any words of wisdom for Bernie it would be	elmac	Feb 2017	#139
Bernie mostly throws out buzzwords but there is very little substance there	JI7	Feb 2017	#143
Exactly!	Cha	Feb 2017	#152
That's how he rolls - it's all about him	SharonClark	Feb 2017	#279
Oh ffs, Bernie. Why have you not joined the party? Why nothing EVER but criticism?!	Hekate	Feb 2017	#157
Ohhhhh! How dramatic!	HassleCat	Feb 2017	#160
No Wipe....	LovingA2andMI	Feb 2017	#161
The UFCW, the UFW and the Fire-fighters union endorse Tom Perez for DNC chair!	Cha	Feb 2017	#164
As for advice, if it's a choice between BS & Joe Biden, I know where I come down. No question.	Tarheel_Dem	Feb 2017	#172
+1	bravenak	Feb 2017	#180
Did any of BS' endorsements pan out in the last election?	Tarheel_Dem	Feb 2017	#193
None that I can remember off hand	bravenak	Feb 2017	#196
+1, The "Obama wing" has been able to SHOW progress vs just talk about it	uponit7771	Feb 2017	#225
He is the main reason I support Perez	bravenak	Feb 2017	#178
It's my personal opinion that you're not alone in that line of thinking.	NurseJackie	Feb 2017	#185
I find that many feel as I do.	bravenak	Feb 2017	#187
+++++ Note that Democrats who endorsed Ellison haven't crapped on Perez.	JHan	Feb 2017	#192
I have noticed that too. It's pretty refreshing to not have such a backlash to an endorsement	bravenak	Feb 2017	#195
Ellison himself has not either	JI7	Feb 2017	#208
Politicians like Reid and Lewis endorsed Ellison...	joshcryer	Feb 2017	#214
Funny you should mention that ...	NurseJackie	Feb 2017	#233
+1, Sanders "movement" so far has been mostly talk. I've seen LITTLE TO NO ACTION and...	uponit7771	Feb 2017	#226
If Bernie wants to tell the Democratic Party what to do, maybe he should join it.	SunSeeker	Feb 2017	#194
Divide and divide. He's not helping. He needs to sit down.	MADem	Feb 2017	#198
+1, He's not helping... I don't see how he can see that statement as helping either. If he does then	uponit7771	Feb 2017	#227
Ellison has said he will give up his house seat	BainsBane	Feb 2017	#250
Just Part of Their Power Grab	otohara	Feb 2017	#257
I think he's more useful in the House. Of course, I'm not making the decisions....	MADem	Feb 2017	#317
I, for one, would like a little status quo back right about now.	betsuni	Feb 2017	#199
He's got an opinion. Let it go. We have trump because of DNC.	George Eliot	Feb 2017	#205
We have Trump due to the attacks against Dems and the DNC, and a bunch of	synergie	Feb 2017	#210
Hogwash. Those people voted dem before. Face facts.	George Eliot	Feb 2017	#273
I agree, enough of the hogwash, let's look with clear eyes and see what actually happened, face fact	synergie	Feb 2017	#276
So many words blaming everyone but the candidate, the party and the message.	George Eliot	Feb 2017	#282
None that were read it seems, since the vote totals debunk your "hogwash"	synergie	Feb 2017	#284
Razor thin still a loss. Where are your facts?	George Eliot	Feb 2017	#303
In those words you refuse to read.	synergie	Feb 2017	#308
If it's only the candidate	BainsBane	Feb 2017	#318
No Ellison, no Perez. Dems should COMPROMISE and agree to pick	oasis	Feb 2017	#206
Oh? Are we supposed to follow the party conservatives in lock step	Warpy	Feb 2017	#213
Yes you are supposed to follow the Democratic Party in lockstep.	Demsrule86	Feb 2017	#238
Conservatives?	BainsBane	Feb 2017	#251
Biden had a "failed approach?" The only non-Democrats I heard say that up to now were Republicans.	DFW	Feb 2017	#217
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Well, is anyone knows about	Rincewind	Feb 2017	#219
:-D	NurseJackie	Feb 2017	#293
"Do we stay with a failed status-quo approach or do we go forward with a fundamental restructuring..	pat_k	Feb 2017	#220
Its a swipe when there's no mention of gerrymandering, voter suppression or Russia...	uponit7771	Feb 2017	#228
It's a swipe becauase he casts	BainsBane	Feb 2017	#254
Get Lost, old man.	Lil Missy	Feb 2017	#231
Wow. Ageism at DU. Disgusting. n/t	FourScore	Feb 2017	#295
K&R	Gothmog	Feb 2017	#237
This is why he will never be more than he is. He's terrible at politics.	randome	Feb 2017	#242
So much for the dem big tent	dembotoz	Feb 2017	#243
the big tent you refer to	BainsBane	Feb 2017	#253
I voted for Sanders	Trumpocalypse	Feb 2017	#252
Yawn, this again?	alarimer	Feb 2017	#274
Please explain the "Status quo"	JHan	Feb 2017	#302
This message was self-deleted by its author	Gothmog	Feb 2017	#304
Biden endorsement wakes up DNC chair race	Gothmog	Feb 2017	#305
Bernie, you didn't help the Democrats then, and you're not helping now. Bernie-voters need not	WinkyDink	Feb 2017	#320
if people could just train themselves to ignore his latest hissy fit	La Lioness Priyanka	Feb 2017	#323
I've finally decided to reply to this thread.	dchill	Feb 2017	#326

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