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TexasMommaWithAHat

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21. Then forget about social programs like childcare and healthcare
Mon Feb 13, 2017, 06:13 PM
Feb 2017

We are never going to get them with open borders. Never.

Borders represent a group of people who willingly govern themselves and pay for defense and things like childcare, education, and healthcare. Provide for the common welfare. You know...shit like that.

The 1%ers want a borderless society where we will all be competing for slave wages. Where millions pour in driving down wages, shrinking the middle class even more, and making it impossible to pay for items like childcare and healthcare, and providing our citizens with an adequate safety net.

We're going to devolve into a third-world country with completely open borders.

Immigration Reform A Very Cloudy Issue [View all] The_Voice_of_Reason Feb 2017 OP
These are desperate human beings in search of a better life. libtodeath Feb 2017 #1
I get that they are desperate people... The_Voice_of_Reason Feb 2017 #2
More accurately, 'what about the Americans who are offering them the opportunity LanternWaste Feb 2017 #3
Read my original post.... The_Voice_of_Reason Feb 2017 #5
Then push for their ability to participate in our system so they have a say in their economic libtodeath Feb 2017 #6
Not to be a contrarian... The_Voice_of_Reason Feb 2017 #9
You have hit about all the rw talking points. libtodeath Feb 2017 #10
Truth is Truth. The_Voice_of_Reason Feb 2017 #12
Forget it. They refuse to listen TexasMommaWithAHat Feb 2017 #20
If you wish to understand my perspective... The_Voice_of_Reason Feb 2017 #23
+1 SecularMotion Feb 2017 #4
There are desperate human beings all over the world TexasMommaWithAHat Feb 2017 #7
Sorry,I want less worry about man made borders and more compassion and humanity. libtodeath Feb 2017 #8
More compassion? The_Voice_of_Reason Feb 2017 #11
Then forget about social programs like childcare and healthcare TexasMommaWithAHat Feb 2017 #21
I have to imagine that most of the laws were put in place for good reason. jmg257 Feb 2017 #13
Where is your evidence for immigrants taking jobs from Americans? alarimer Feb 2017 #14
The OP is pretty transparent isnt it? libtodeath Feb 2017 #16
Just because you don't like facts does not make them RW Talking Points. The_Voice_of_Reason Feb 2017 #17
You have yet to list any facts. alarimer Feb 2017 #19
We seem to be arguing two sides of the same coin. The_Voice_of_Reason Feb 2017 #22
It IS complicated but there IS a lie about taking some jobs from Americans... Phentex Feb 2017 #15
Which comes first.... The_Voice_of_Reason Feb 2017 #18
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