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George Takei vs. Bill Maher [View all] Trumpocalypse Feb 2017 OP
It's very disheartening to see liberals knocking liberals because they are not liberal enough TrekLuver Feb 2017 #1
Bull Maher is not a liberal though. As far as I know he is a libertarian. boston bean Feb 2017 #3
Well he coulda fooled me and yes he's a liberal. TrekLuver Feb 2017 #4
Then he fooled you. Trumpocalypse Feb 2017 #34
I'm not reading all that but because he said some "unliberal" things (I'll assume) he's kicked out? TrekLuver Feb 2017 #36
Kicked out of where? Trumpocalypse Feb 2017 #41
I'm not seeing the bigotry here and please don't judge me since you know nothing about me thanks. TrekLuver Feb 2017 #44
So you are turning a blind eye to bigoty Trumpocalypse Feb 2017 #50
Block my posts because you are too liberal for me. HAHAHHAHAHA TrekLuver Feb 2017 #54
I don't block posts Trumpocalypse Feb 2017 #58
Well then it looks like you're stuck with me...I call it out too and wanting to hang Mahr for this TrekLuver Feb 2017 #63
He also made sure to ask where the "weirdos" should pee. Crash2Parties Feb 2017 #87
Who ever said anything about hanging Maher? Trumpocalypse Feb 2017 #113
He self-describes as a libertarian. Gore1FL Feb 2017 #66
No he does not. He dropped that ages ago. phleshdef Feb 2017 #74
He's a showman. For the last maybe 8 years he was more Dem leaning. Then the WH changed parties. Crash2Parties Feb 2017 #88
Actually its been more like over a decade. phleshdef Feb 2017 #90
in 2011 he renounced any label and described himself as "practical" Gore1FL Feb 2017 #97
Thats pretty vague and offers no video so I can't speak to the context of it. But I would identify.. phleshdef Feb 2017 #99
+1000 smirkymonkey Feb 2017 #105
Thank you! MindPilot Feb 2017 #165
"Yes, he is a bigot" should just end with a period. There's nothing left to be said after that. EffieBlack Feb 2017 #212
I'll decide how my sentences end. I don't need any help. phleshdef Feb 2017 #223
Here we go with the "you called out someone's bigotry so YOU'RE THE BIGOT!" bs EffieBlack Feb 2017 #228
You didn't "call me" on anything. You attempted to. But you failed because I'm no selling it. phleshdef Feb 2017 #231
Words have meaning n/t kcr Feb 2017 #233
He's a self-described libertarian. cannabis_flower Feb 2017 #78
Nope. He's not. TDale313 Feb 2017 #168
He is American Pachamama Feb 2017 #173
Hardly. Bill Maher is indeed liberal. RelativelyJones Feb 2017 #6
He is a libertarian who has many liberal positions Trumpocalypse Feb 2017 #38
Yep, that's about the size of it.. I stand with George, too. Cha Feb 2017 #80
I stand with both of them. TrekLuver Feb 2017 #120
Exactly EffieBlack Feb 2017 #213
He has identified as a liberal for pretty much a decade now. phleshdef Feb 2017 #91
What difference does a label make? It's his positions on major issues that counts, isn't it? Honeycombe8 Feb 2017 #154
If that's true, then I wonder why Sanders campaigned as a Democrat Orrex Feb 2017 #156
You know Vermont politics are different, right? Goblinmonger Feb 2017 #192
Are you saying that labels DO matter in Vermont? Orrex Feb 2017 #193
Oh, man Goblinmonger Feb 2017 #194
Are you saying that labels DO matter in Vermont? Orrex Feb 2017 #195
He had to change the label for the presidential bid because it's a two-party system Goblinmonger Feb 2017 #196
Are you saying that labels DO matter in Vermont? Orrex Feb 2017 #197
Exactly Trumpocalypse Feb 2017 #175
I haven't heard him express bigotry. ??? nt Honeycombe8 Feb 2017 #198
You haven't? Trumpocalypse Feb 2017 #203
No, I don't think he's bigoted. Honeycombe8 Feb 2017 #209
You don't include remarks Trumpocalypse Feb 2017 #226
THANK YOU!!! EffieBlack Feb 2017 #214
He is liberal/libertarian.... angstlessk Feb 2017 #7
I don't think his views on libertarianism have changed much since this video RelativelyJones Feb 2017 #14
if we define everyone who supports free speech and legal pot as "libertarian", that's what he is. Warren DeMontague Feb 2017 #17
he's a strong supporter of Democrats-- he supported Obama and Hillary Fast Walker 52 Feb 2017 #24
That doesn't excuse his bigotry. Trumpocalypse Feb 2017 #61
No, it certainly does not. I just don't think he's a libertarian at all Fast Walker 52 Feb 2017 #179
Apparently, some Democrats think his bigotry is just fine as long as he supports the positions they EffieBlack Feb 2017 #215
Bill's libertarian credentials begin and end with legalizing weed n/t Azathoth Feb 2017 #202
I think Maher has passed his sell by date. GoneOffShore Feb 2017 #205
this s about bigotry and lies about transgender people JI7 Feb 2017 #11
Did you watch his wink-and-nod encouragement to milo's extremely transphobic remarks? Ms. Toad Feb 2017 #18
I'll have to watch it... TrekLuver Feb 2017 #26
If someone tolerates and encourages blatantly false and transphobic lies, yes. Ms. Toad Feb 2017 #37
After watching it he was not chuckling with him...he was chuckling at him..and he said WHAT TrekLuver Feb 2017 #49
Scroll back to Maher's comment about "weirdos" Ms. Toad Feb 2017 #56
You need to watch the show AND the after show Beaverhausen Feb 2017 #131
Yes I did. It was disgusting. Vile. (I assume he's trying to save or resurrect his show ... NurseJackie Feb 2017 #70
Huh? MindPilot Feb 2017 #121
That figure was clearly off the wall. Didn't he say " involved"? Which might be true, and entirely JCanete Feb 2017 #152
That is likely the statistic he was using - Ms. Toad Feb 2017 #187
So your argument is we should turn a blind eye to bigotry. Trumpocalypse Feb 2017 #32
Did I say that was my argument? TrekLuver Feb 2017 #33
You posted that we shouldn't attack Maher for his bigotry. Trumpocalypse Feb 2017 #35
I said nothing like that you can go reread what I wrote I'm not typing it again. TrekLuver Feb 2017 #39
I read what you wrote Trumpocalypse Feb 2017 #42
You know what I just watched the video and I don't see any "blatant" bigotry portrayed by Mahr. TrekLuver Feb 2017 #53
That says quite a lot, that you don't think this is blatant bigotry Ms. Toad Feb 2017 #69
Except it wasn't unintelligible..Mahr said "I said it to Fuck with Jack" TrekLuver Feb 2017 #73
That makes it less bigoted to call transgender people weirdos? Ms. Toad Feb 2017 #92
He was kidding around...good lord lighten up. I'm done with this nonsense now. TrekLuver Feb 2017 #100
It is not nonsense Ms. Toad Feb 2017 #188
Notice how that inconvenient little fact was left off the posted transcript BannonsLiver Feb 2017 #211
When he started reading the Joan Rivers quotes Trumpocalypse Feb 2017 #115
That's OK I don't need to prove my "liberalness" to you...why you actually likened me to a Trashpot TrekLuver Feb 2017 #118
Yes I'm intolerant of bigotry. Guilty as charged. Trumpocalypse Feb 2017 #123
Fair enough...I'm not a fan of it either...I don't think there are many here who would defend TrekLuver Feb 2017 #126
Who said anything about 'throwing the baby out with the bathwater' Trumpocalypse Feb 2017 #148
Go chase your own tail. I'm done with you...have a nice day. TrekLuver Feb 2017 #149
You keep saying that Trumpocalypse Feb 2017 #151
I'll knock transphobia whenever I see it. Adrahil Feb 2017 #62
The only transphobia on the show was Milo...and maybe the other southern guy I forget his TrekLuver Feb 2017 #64
Maher gave Milo half-hearted agreement.... Adrahil Feb 2017 #68
And when Maher said "where should the weirdos pee"??? Crash2Parties Feb 2017 #89
It is one thing to believe that there is too much emphasis on a civil rights issue such as dsc Feb 2017 #79
"not liberal enough"? What he said was bigoted & right out of the GOP cue cards. Crash2Parties Feb 2017 #86
A feud with Bill Maher? Who contributed $1 Million to the Obama campaign? Honeycombe8 Feb 2017 #153
Yeah, I feel the same way. More unity is needed in general. Kimchijeon Feb 2017 #200
+1000 BannonsLiver Feb 2017 #210
Would it hurt to provide context to those who didn't watch his show? brooklynite Feb 2017 #2
Mahr was phobic about transgenders angstlessk Feb 2017 #5
Milo made a bigoted and wrong point about transgender people being "dangerous" Warren DeMontague Feb 2017 #15
I dont agree wtih the TERF folks, Ms. Toad Feb 2017 #21
I think the shit Julie Bindel has said on this is uncannily similar to Milo's rhetoric. Warren DeMontague Feb 2017 #22
I don't know Julie Bindel, Ms. Toad Feb 2017 #23
Well if you run down the bigoted bullet points, they're identical. Warren DeMontague Feb 2017 #25
You're missing the most significant difference, Ms. Toad Feb 2017 #27
You're right. And I don't know if that's part of Bindel's assertions, or not. Warren DeMontague Feb 2017 #29
I see both points Lotusflower70 Feb 2017 #8
I like Maher and agree with him on many things, but he's not always right. Warren DeMontague Feb 2017 #12
Agreed Lotusflower70 Feb 2017 #13
Well said Warren! I agree Va Lefty Feb 2017 #16
Exactly! mountain grammy Feb 2017 #76
Anyone who thinks a man in a dress and heels wearing a waist cincher Warpy Feb 2017 #9
That is too hillarious angstlessk Feb 2017 #19
Divide and conquer. theaocp Feb 2017 #30
Hahaha! babylonsister Feb 2017 #20
Yep. Maher was wrong and should be called out on that. Warren DeMontague Feb 2017 #10
I've seen him miss opportunities before...but then I was thinking if I was hosting the show TrekLuver Feb 2017 #28
This one was too offensive, and too blatant. Ms. Toad Feb 2017 #43
Milo didn't get away with anything in that video...so I'm seeing something different. TrekLuver Feb 2017 #48
I never suggested Milo got away with it. We were discussing Maher's behavior - Ms. Toad Feb 2017 #55
Larry jumped in right away. It's a talk show moving along to the next topic. You guys are really TrekLuver Feb 2017 #60
plus infinty! MindPilot Feb 2017 #127
I find Maher a mixed bag. Crunchy Frog Feb 2017 #31
You weren't...Maher's fearless critiques of Republican hypocrisy are a model that all Democrats BeyondGeography Feb 2017 #40
It's called "liberal intolerance". TrekLuver Feb 2017 #122
I though the Magic R segment of New Rules was one of the best ever. Boomerproud Feb 2017 #67
I find Maher a mixed bag. LenaBaby61 Feb 2017 #77
me too.. samnsara Feb 2017 #103
I thought the "Magic R" piece was one of his best. smirkymonkey Feb 2017 #106
caught the repeat and I don't know why Milo was on... I don't know why anyone invites him anywhere.. JHan Feb 2017 #45
I learned that he's an uninteresting asshole. Crunchy Frog Feb 2017 #47
Right?! JHan Feb 2017 #52
My Wife And I FF'd The Last Bit of Him ProfessorGAC Feb 2017 #101
My impression was that he is doing performance art mnhtnbb Feb 2017 #104
Beam Me Up, Mr. Sulu, because this planet sucks n/t Stargleamer Feb 2017 #46
IIRC, Bill told Milo to shut the fuck up tirebiter Feb 2017 #51
Then why did Maher give him a platform in the first place Trumpocalypse Feb 2017 #57
I stand with both Demonaut Feb 2017 #59
I thought he was too. Bill Maher is dead to me now. Some of his biggest defenders BEFORE the show... NurseJackie Feb 2017 #65
K & R SunSeeker Feb 2017 #71
The Black Bloc in Berkley made Milo a hero to the Right tirebiter Feb 2017 #72
Bill Maher is human thbobby Feb 2017 #75
I like them both. logosoco Feb 2017 #81
I would love to see George Takei debate Maher sometime. Initech Feb 2017 #82
WOW! Can anybody say overreaction njhoneybadger Feb 2017 #83
welcome to du trumpocalypse orleans Feb 2017 #84
What did he say? liberalnarb Feb 2017 #85
Bill Maher has consistently been a failure at defending LGBT rights. Oneironaut Feb 2017 #93
He's trying to "save" his failing show. It's the Springer / Maury approach. NurseJackie Feb 2017 #96
wait a second, that just isn't true. I just looked up the ratings. This is his most watched season JCanete Feb 2017 #158
Apparently it's working. NurseJackie Feb 2017 #159
good lord, it isn't defending his bigottedness. He's ignorant on shit. I'd rather people be upright JCanete Feb 2017 #94
You act as if he's been living inside some sort of GOP bubble. He hasn't. He knows better ... NurseJackie Feb 2017 #95
you may very well be right that he doesn't care. I'm not going to get into his motivations. But JCanete Feb 2017 #98
Sigh... NurseJackie Feb 2017 #107
I don't particularly disagree with anything you said here. It makes sense to choose where JCanete Feb 2017 #147
Bill Maher is not our enemy.....nt HAB911 Feb 2017 #102
Politically correct people are. bathroommonkey76 Feb 2017 #109
Bullshit! This was not some unguarded "off-hand remark" ... NurseJackie Feb 2017 #111
The comment sure as heck didn't bother me. bathroommonkey76 Feb 2017 #112
there is a very sensitive thread HAB911 Feb 2017 #117
Yes...this....BIG TIME. TrekLuver Feb 2017 #119
Few are100pc correct liberal, plus WHO is the DECIDER of what 100 pc is? Maher goes off the rails Alice11111 Feb 2017 #174
Don't be afraid. bathroommonkey76 Feb 2017 #130
What was funny about what either Milo said or Maher agreed to? Humanist_Activist Feb 2017 #177
Maher's being lynched by melodramatic libs. bathroommonkey76 Feb 2017 #182
"Lynched?" EffieBlack Feb 2017 #216
So does being politically correct. bathroommonkey76 Feb 2017 #217
Calling out bigotry is "political correctness" only to those who aren't its target EffieBlack Feb 2017 #219
Widdle feewings bathroommonkey76 Feb 2017 #222
Well their hair trigger HAB911 Feb 2017 #180
Perhaps you should not violate the rules so much, just a suggestion... Humanist_Activist Feb 2017 #183
stating an opinion HAB911 Feb 2017 #184
Depends on the opinion, generally attacking Democrats is frowned upon, as is attacking people... Humanist_Activist Feb 2017 #190
Do folks use the alert button against you often? bathroommonkey76 Feb 2017 #185
LOL, on the topics HAB911 Feb 2017 #186
Frankly speaking, if you find that you are afraid to voice an opinion because you... Humanist_Activist Feb 2017 #176
sorry, nothing to do with being labeled anything HAB911 Feb 2017 #181
Depends who you define 'our' Trumpocalypse Feb 2017 #116
Milo is an asshole. Duppers Feb 2017 #108
Huh-wha-what?! WTF are you talking about? NurseJackie Feb 2017 #110
Milo isn't trans. JenniferJuniper Feb 2017 #114
Milo was trashing trans people Trumpocalypse Feb 2017 #124
Wow, thanks. Duppers Feb 2017 #128
I'm one more..Maher is not a bigot. MindPilot Feb 2017 #125
Unless you're Transgendered or Muslim. (That is all.) NurseJackie Feb 2017 #132
Oh god now I need eye bleach!! MindPilot Feb 2017 #135
Did you watch the show and after show? Beaverhausen Feb 2017 #133
I did. MindPilot Feb 2017 #134
He isn't??? Trumpocalypse Feb 2017 #150
I agree. Maher is not a bigot, that I know of. Honeycombe8 Feb 2017 #199
I have always found that Maher is a self-important, smarmy little libertarian shit. demmiblue Feb 2017 #129
Isn't it a pity that Wilmore's take-down was during the UNAIRED "Overtime" segment? NurseJackie Feb 2017 #136
For as much as you loathe the guy, you sure seem to be hooked on the show. MindPilot Feb 2017 #137
Why does my scorn for him make you so angry? It's as if you're taking it personally. NurseJackie Feb 2017 #138
I'm not one who's angry... MindPilot Feb 2017 #140
So you're not angry, but *do* take it personally ... that's good to know. NurseJackie Feb 2017 #142
Careful Orrex Feb 2017 #139
Probably because criticism of Maher MicaelS Feb 2017 #141
And they seem to forget that people on TV are entertainers, not political operatives. MindPilot Feb 2017 #143
Yes, that's the other predictable Maher defense Orrex Feb 2017 #146
Then get your own show. MindPilot Feb 2017 #155
Yes, criticism can only be voiced by those who can do better Orrex Feb 2017 #163
The other dismissive variation they're using is "Don't like him? Don't watch him!" Of course ... NurseJackie Feb 2017 #207
Yes, that is always and invariably the pro-Maher response Orrex Feb 2017 #144
Well your first sentance is clearly inaccurate... MindPilot Feb 2017 #160
Glad to see that you agree with the rest Orrex Feb 2017 #161
What tweet are you talking about? There's no tweet. MindPilot Feb 2017 #164
Curious--your in-thread link brought me to the OP Orrex Feb 2017 #166
Ah yes, the "bigot" claim because he dares MicaelS Feb 2017 #170
No, that's not it. Orrex Feb 2017 #171
That is not why he's called a bigot, Jesus, get a fucking grip... Humanist_Activist Feb 2017 #178
Oh no, you can't say that around here. MicaelS Feb 2017 #189
You are being called out for falsely suggesting that Muslims are the only ones who... Humanist_Activist Feb 2017 #191
Did we accidentally stumble onto a Breitbart comment section? EffieBlack Feb 2017 #220
No idea, I'm really puzzled by this tremendous concern about Islam in the West... Humanist_Activist Feb 2017 #227
I'm not so puzzled that this concern exists among certain people in the West . . . EffieBlack Feb 2017 #229
Thank you! TrekLuver Feb 2017 #145
Dollars to donuts, many of them are probably also Stern fans. n/t demmiblue Feb 2017 #167
Not a fan of Maher at all. hrmjustin Feb 2017 #157
This message was self-deleted by its author melman Feb 2017 #172
Maher is also a misogynist. wryter2000 Feb 2017 #162
Yes, on both counts. TDale313 Feb 2017 #169
So demanding purity of our politicians who we actually elect to represent us is bad.... vi5 Feb 2017 #201
Not demanding purity but calling out bigotry Trumpocalypse Feb 2017 #204
Interesting how folks circle the wagon at the mere suggestion that one of their own might be a bigot EffieBlack Feb 2017 #218
"we" don't elect all politicians to represent us JI7 Feb 2017 #206
He's a lot more liberal melman Feb 2017 #224
That doesn't excuse his bigotry. Trumpocalypse Feb 2017 #225
Be careful . . . EffieBlack Feb 2017 #232
LOL! Trumpocalypse Feb 2017 #234
And some of the policies many on here are o.k. with... vi5 Feb 2017 #230
Bill Mahar is an entertainer and I watch people who please me when I consume my time with them. Jim Beard Feb 2017 #208
Pfft...Maher can only dream of being on the same level. Rex Feb 2017 #221
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