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geek tragedy

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35. I've never bought this argument. They moved to the Republican party for cultural reasons.
Tue Feb 21, 2017, 05:50 PM
Feb 2017

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Indeed, it makes no sense to claim that the people who regularly vote for Wall Street's preferred candidates and job outsourcers are primarily motivated by economics instead of by cultural resentments.

The shift in WWC voters began in the Nixon era as they felt alienated not from Democratic free traders and pro-business types but rather because they hated hippies, civil rights "outside agitators" and desegregation.

See, e.g.,

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hard_Hat_Riot

The White Working Class have always been socially regressive, and prone to authoritarianism, male supremacy and ethnonationalism. They've always been part of the problem, not the solution, when it comes to stuff like civil rights.

the unions could have done a lot better for themselves had they resisted the white supremacist power structure by including racial minorities, instead of supporting that same power structure. the ones that did so are the ones that are still around.

Well done WomanWhoRoars Feb 2017 #1
Welcome to DU, WWR. guillaumeb Feb 2017 #2
Not all Trump voters are asshole, but..... world wide wally Feb 2017 #3
I do not know all of them. guillaumeb Feb 2017 #4
Trump voters lack the same sense of morality and decency as we do. geek tragedy Feb 2017 #5
Angry, confused, and thus easily manipulated. guillaumeb Feb 2017 #6
Thanks WomanWhoRoars Feb 2017 #7
They take their persecution issues into the voting booth leftstreet Feb 2017 #9
Their candidate may have won, guillaumeb Feb 2017 #10
Do you think the people you know who voted for him understand they voted for a man who BeckyDem Feb 2017 #8
I do not think that Trump is particularly intelligent, guillaumeb Feb 2017 #13
I was curious if the people you know talk about what is happening BeckyDem Feb 2017 #20
I just talked with a Trump voter over the weekend. guillaumeb Feb 2017 #24
I think what I understand is some will never see past their own bigotry and we must not pander to BeckyDem Feb 2017 #26
It sounds like many of us are doing our best to educate. guillaumeb Feb 2017 #27
I have 3 Trumpers in my FB collective. CrispyQ Feb 2017 #11
A ranking of people to hate? guillaumeb Feb 2017 #15
Oh they will find someone to blame, for sure! CrispyQ Feb 2017 #21
8 years of GOP obstruction was just fine, guillaumeb Feb 2017 #25
Lonesome Dove njhoneybadger Feb 2017 #12
Trump will continue on his way as his supporters become his victims. guillaumeb Feb 2017 #16
Lately I have been thinking that these supporters logosoco Feb 2017 #14
There is a strain of US Christianity that is termed the prosperity Gospel. guillaumeb Feb 2017 #17
The Prosperity Gospel is not just religious, although it might as well be YoungDemCA Feb 2017 #32
They don't want to understand us. Why should we return the favor? Initech Feb 2017 #18
Oh I agree. And my post expands on that. guillaumeb Feb 2017 #22
who said, "the line between voting for a bigot and being one is so fine as to be invisible"? unblock Feb 2017 #19
Agreed. Well said. guillaumeb Feb 2017 #23
The Rude Pundit said that. nt tblue37 Feb 2017 #58
ah, thanks! unblock Feb 2017 #59
Good points to know Kimchijeon Feb 2017 #28
Accessories before the fact to his agenda. guillaumeb Feb 2017 #31
I disagree. jrthin Feb 2017 #29
I believe that some voted for him because they want to believe guillaumeb Feb 2017 #30
I think Conservadems need to "understand" them zipplewrath Feb 2017 #33
Very true. Trade deals without conditions to protect labor guillaumeb Feb 2017 #34
I've never bought this argument. They moved to the Republican party for cultural reasons. geek tragedy Feb 2017 #35
Agreed on you points about GOP working class voters. guillaumeb Feb 2017 #38
The unions managed them zipplewrath Feb 2017 #41
a lot of truth to what you write. geek tragedy Feb 2017 #46
Changing model with changing times zipplewrath Feb 2017 #72
Trump voters I have talked to largely voted for him because he's something different, PatsFan87 Feb 2017 #36
Trump voters fell for Trump's lies. guillaumeb Feb 2017 #39
Bullshit. A Trump voter who is not racist or islamophobic or both is an extremely rare beast. retread Feb 2017 #37
I know a few admitted Trump voters. Most of that few are racist. guillaumeb Feb 2017 #40
Yet it seems that "sample size" was enough to support your op? retread Feb 2017 #44
My post was about support for a racist, etc being a tacit acceptance guillaumeb Feb 2017 #50
Aside from disagreeing with the premise, I found it very thin on substance. retread Feb 2017 #70
I am saying that voting for Trump is acceptance of all that Trump is. guillaumeb Feb 2017 #71
My feeling on Trump voters, agincourt Feb 2017 #42
So you feel that 80% of Trump voters guillaumeb Feb 2017 #43
Some of this support is a media creation as well agincourt Feb 2017 #47
Progressive candidates and their campaigns FogerRox Feb 2017 #45
And progressives must try to appeal to all voters, guillaumeb Feb 2017 #51
A few interactions with the morons DiverDave Feb 2017 #48
You are putting cold water on their warm right wing fantasies. guillaumeb Feb 2017 #52
They knew what they were doing. I will not excuse inexcusable behavior. n/t Coventina Feb 2017 #49
Yes they did. No matter their professed motivation, guillaumeb Feb 2017 #53
They validated him... Freedomofspeech Feb 2017 #54
Agreed. And you should not. guillaumeb Feb 2017 #55
Trump did not hide his fascistic self. MineralMan Feb 2017 #56
A good addition. Agreed. eom guillaumeb Feb 2017 #60
When you say 'progressives', are you implying... Talk Is Cheap Feb 2017 #57
Well, I said progressives. guillaumeb Feb 2017 #61
Well, then I completely don't understand your thread and this post... Talk Is Cheap Feb 2017 #62
What is your understanding of the post? guillaumeb Feb 2017 #63
I go back to my original question... Talk Is Cheap Feb 2017 #64
The post IS the major point. guillaumeb Feb 2017 #65
Ok, one last try... Talk Is Cheap Feb 2017 #66
Now I understand. guillaumeb Feb 2017 #67
Technically, an English teacher or an Editor would instruct you to fix this... Talk Is Cheap Feb 2017 #68
Given that yours was the first comment expressing confusion, guillaumeb Feb 2017 #69
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