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In reply to the discussion: Is the (D) behind the name more important than the voting record? [View all]guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)219. Let us really simplify the issue here: The Democrats are losing the battle.
They can either change strategies, or they can continue to lose.
Any focus on Sarandon and Ellison is focusing on the wrong things.
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A (D) behind the name means it counts when determining the Majority Party. That's important.
SharonAnn
Feb 2017
#126
If one wants to have a say in party politics and how it is run and control aspects of it....
boston bean
Feb 2017
#2
No that means he caucuses with the Democrats...you can't be a member unless you join.
Demsrule86
Feb 2017
#20
It's not a label. It's a membership. Damn he should just join... but he won't, why?
boston bean
Feb 2017
#94
I am talking about Sanders, but this is applicable to Kshama Sawant and others
guillaumeb
Feb 2017
#180
Your example is fine for a state such as Vermont, or New York, or California, but
still_one
Feb 2017
#6
It used to be blue...then more purple ...we are lucky to get Manchin...and he is endangered...
Demsrule86
Feb 2017
#25
When is comes to party matters, yes. Sanders, by his own choice, is an Independent.
SaschaHM
Feb 2017
#15
His voting record is one of supporting Democratic Party positions 90+% of the time.
guillaumeb
Feb 2017
#99
It is an organization with members who decide to join and those who don't are not Democrats.
Demsrule86
Feb 2017
#44
The "D" is a rough, mostly reliabe, guide. Rule: Just about any Dem is better than any Repuke.
UTUSN
Feb 2017
#45
True, and working with like minded political colleagues to get things done. eom
guillaumeb
Feb 2017
#58
True, but that is because there are no sane GOP politicians in Congress. eom
guillaumeb
Feb 2017
#59
It doesn't give someone Carte Blanche to run roughshod and start calling the shots...
NurseJackie
Feb 2017
#109
Huh? Co-chair? WTF?! There's NO SUCH THING as "co-chair" ... they are NOT equals.
NurseJackie
Feb 2017
#124
There's no such thing as the "Sanders Wing". They're either Democrats or not...
NurseJackie
Feb 2017
#133
I believe that's called a strawman argument. I've never said or suggested such a thing ...
NurseJackie
Feb 2017
#138
This isn't about me. And, the #2 slot is a consolation prize of little authority.
NurseJackie
Feb 2017
#216
Let us really simplify the issue here: The Democrats are losing the battle.
guillaumeb
Feb 2017
#219
Really? How so? To what other parties should I consider giving control of the Democratic party?
NurseJackie
Feb 2017
#144
I'll take you at your word that you are a "lifelong Democrat" ... and therefore
NurseJackie
Feb 2017
#156
You conveniently ignored my implied admission that "offended" was perhaps an inaccurate
KPN
Feb 2017
#221
To regain the majority, the "D is more important. Yes, someties I'd like to see the Dems vote in
napi21
Feb 2017
#79
Nope, it doesn't. It's actually weaker than the symbolic act of not joining. Because it influences
stevenleser
Feb 2017
#92
And that response is indicative you have no counter, so its an acknowledgement that I'm right. nt
stevenleser
Feb 2017
#101
Thread after thread stating essentially that we should like Sanders. We don't.
randome
Feb 2017
#123
Just checking ... You do understand that they are not "co-chairs", right? You kinda ...
NurseJackie
Feb 2017
#148
The voting totals were quite close. Indicating that the Party is supportive of both.
guillaumeb
Feb 2017
#167
It wasn't that close. The same proportions in a national election would be ...
NurseJackie
Feb 2017
#181
The D behind the names shows investment in a political party one we have all signed up at DU
La Lioness Priyanka
Feb 2017
#157
no one is arguing that Sanders is not liberal. what we are arguing is whether he furthers
La Lioness Priyanka
Feb 2017
#166
Agreed. I am not defending everything that Sanders says, or everything that any
guillaumeb
Feb 2017
#168
And I also. I respect your positions, and your (generally) polite style. eom
guillaumeb
Feb 2017
#170
i dunno about the polite. i have been raging quite a bit since the election
La Lioness Priyanka
Feb 2017
#172
Call me when Vermont and W. Va. become ideologically equivalent. Until then, it doesn't....
Tarheel_Dem
Feb 2017
#177
Oh yeah, the "maple sugar" lobby in DC is huge & they have buckets of money to throw at our....
Tarheel_Dem
Feb 2017
#198
Your end point might be a valid one if Sanders were criticizing a winning strategy.
guillaumeb
Feb 2017
#186
It might be relevant but to discuss it would then involve the various claims
guillaumeb
Feb 2017
#207
If Sanders had the W VA electorate he'd be voting more like Manchin or he'd be gone.
delisen
Feb 2017
#205
If we're going for a "Fifty State" strategy, we have to consider the (D) for some states.
moriah
Feb 2017
#214
Overall and almost always, yes. All D's are much better than all R's across the board. nt.
NCTraveler
Feb 2017
#218