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Hortensis

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11. He's smiling because he imagines everyone will

Tue Mar 7, 2017, 04:01 PM

Mar 2017

ultimately pay his or her own way or die, a brutal way to what he imagines would be a healthier, more vigorous and worthy society. Without all those worthless, no-longer-productive retired moochers around.

Very stupid imagining. Libertarianism always loses to strongly conservative or even fascistic authoritarian rule. And some of us actually like being part of multigenerational families and taking the new babies over to visit elderly neighbors.

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They just said a short while ago if you did not take the insurance the [View all] Doreen Mar 2017 OP

This is basically like loan sharking...... sunonmars Mar 2017 #1

I do not understand loan sharking but I know what you mean. Doreen Mar 2017 #2

its basically pay up now or the bill get larger and larger and larger sunonmars Mar 2017 #5

Yup. Doreen Mar 2017 #7

i've said all along, they'll keep the mandate, largely just change the name. unblock Mar 2017 #3

30% premium surcharge for a year if there's a 2-month gap Hortensis Mar 2017 #4

If Paul Ryan is smiling, someone is suffering. FSogol Mar 2017 #8

He's smiling because he imagines everyone will Hortensis Mar 2017 #11

And COBRA is rediculously expensive. It eats up 80% Ilsa Mar 2017 #9

COBRA isn't insurance, per say Phoenix61 Mar 2017 #10

Exactly. My point was that you pay out of pocket to Ilsa Mar 2017 #20

Back in the 1990s, my husband changed from being Hortensis Mar 2017 #14

As long as it's only a 1-year surcharge, probably. Ms. Toad Mar 2017 #13

Medicare does the same thing with Plan B..... dixiegrrrrl Mar 2017 #17

Plan D the drug program also charges more if you don't sign up when you are 65. I am 68 and spend doc03 Mar 2017 #28

My question is whether it is a one year surcharge - or a forever surcharge. Ms. Toad Mar 2017 #29

With Part D (prescription drug), you are fined 1% in additional premium moonscape Mar 2017 #32

That's quite different from a 30% surcharge for life Ms. Toad Mar 2017 #36

Absolutely. No comparison. n/t moonscape Mar 2017 #38

The Republicans looked at the healthcare system and decided it needed more usury. FSogol Mar 2017 #6

Well . . . it's not a mandate Ms. Toad Mar 2017 #12

I prefer to pay the government the penalty, Delmette2.0 Mar 2017 #15

I am waiting nervously for my Medicare to end. Doreen Mar 2017 #16

I have paid into SSA and Medicare for 45 years, Delmette2.0 Mar 2017 #21

To bad you can't add it all up and get your mony back. Doreen Mar 2017 #22

You are so very right. Delmette2.0 Mar 2017 #24

Sure Motownman78 Mar 2017 #25

I am truly sorry and glad you have insurance. Delmette2.0 Mar 2017 #39

And that money goes straight to the insurance CEOs dalton99a Mar 2017 #18

Yup Doreen Mar 2017 #19

Just wait until the premium increases on employer-based plans after ACA repeal. roamer65 Mar 2017 #23

Yeah. Like they want to ensure that poor young people never get it. applegrove Mar 2017 #26

They seem to think a young person who just got out of high school and is living Doreen Mar 2017 #27

Well they get to stay on their parents plan till they are 26. But what then applegrove Mar 2017 #30

Yes, but what if their parents can not afford to have them on their plan? Doreen Mar 2017 #31

Very scary. And it looks like they are going to put medicare into a death applegrove Mar 2017 #33

Yeah, they plan on it and that is where I am screwed. Doreen Mar 2017 #34

Don't worry. The Democrats will win huge in 2020. applegrove Mar 2017 #35

I hope so. If we do there is gong to be a lot of Doreen Mar 2017 #37