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pat_k

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45. My suggestion is version with public option
Tue Mar 14, 2017, 05:27 PM
Mar 2017

Repubs assert -- falsely -- that their bill will reduce premiums. If we introduce a competing bill with public option that actually WILL bring down rates through pooling and negotiating as does Medicaid/Medicare, we would be in a much stronger position. Now it's "We'll lower your rates" (never mind that it's a lie -- too many will be duped) v. "We want to keep everything the same." We are fighting on "their turf." We need to drag the debate over to "our turf."

I'm composing letters to my Rep and members of House leadership expressing my dismay that they aren't putting a Dem bill out there -- one with the public option; one that they mount a coordinated effort to "sell" to the public. (As opposed to their utter silence on Conyers bill.) If you agree that this is a more effective way to generate the political will to stop R bill and give an issue to run on in 2018, might want to consider doing a little "citizen lobbying" too.

But if we did do that then how would the CEO's be able to get their obscene pay packages? dhol82 Mar 2017 #1
But But But......That's........SO-SHUL-ISMMMMMM!!! (Cue Ominous Music: DUN DUN DUNNNNNNN!!!) ChoppinBroccoli Mar 2017 #2
Yes PatSeg Mar 2017 #22
And the throngs of people who work in the private medical insurance industry? Orsino Mar 2017 #3
The Demand For Treatment Doesn't Go Away; The Mechanism For Payment Just Changes ChoppinBroccoli Mar 2017 #4
We already know from multiple American examples that single-payer works... Orsino Mar 2017 #13
A Dem bill fix that adds "public option." pat_k Mar 2017 #17
Sounds good to me. Orsino Mar 2017 #18
Oh, Now I See ChoppinBroccoli Mar 2017 #23
well, actually a lot of single payers' costs go way down precisely because ProfessorPlum Mar 2017 #25
Yes we DO need a single payer plan IMO mvd Mar 2017 #38
Or introduce a Dem "replacement" bill that adds public option. pat_k Mar 2017 #6
It won't happen...better to spend time defending the ACA ... Demsrule86 Mar 2017 #10
And that is the thinking that makes it impossible to EVER generate the political will. pat_k Mar 2017 #14
Exactly right ProfessorPlum Mar 2017 #26
Dems can introduce a "replacement" bill of their own. pat_k Mar 2017 #5
How would Medicare for all work? yeoman6987 Mar 2017 #7
Here's Conyer's latest version pat_k Mar 2017 #8
Thanks. Tax top 5 percent wage earners yeoman6987 Mar 2017 #12
To be fair I should say that the Democrats didn't have the votes. Demsrule86 Mar 2017 #9
They should still be out there making the case. pat_k Mar 2017 #20
They should be out there saving the ACA...trying to do anything else plays into Demsrule86 Mar 2017 #21
"ACA sucks" v. "No it doesn't" is a losing argument. pat_k Mar 2017 #24
No, in the real world...that is how the GOP gets the aca repealed.... Demsrule86 Mar 2017 #31
Who said "attack it"? pat_k Mar 2017 #39
Of course it can be improved and the should be our Demsrule86 Mar 2017 #40
My suggestion is version with public option pat_k Mar 2017 #45
yeah, yeah ProfessorPlum Mar 2017 #28
consider Lieberman whom I dislike...was primaried Demsrule86 Mar 2017 #33
Who's attacking the ACA? ProfessorPlum Mar 2017 #36
We can't replace it...we must support it and improve it if given the chance...but that Demsrule86 Mar 2017 #44
Intro competing bill w/public option now, and.. pat_k Mar 2017 #46
Privatization guarantees nothing except government-funded corruption Orrex Mar 2017 #11
It can never work for health care because health care isn't a "commodity"... pat_k Mar 2017 #15
That is 100% absolute and perfect truth Orrex Mar 2017 #19
That would be another huge benefit of single payer ProfessorPlum Mar 2017 #29
Preach it! (nt) Orrex Mar 2017 #32
some things are best done by the private sector, others by the public sector. unblock Mar 2017 #37
Follow the lead of every other developed nation. pat_k Mar 2017 #47
Are economy is so strong we actually can afford the waste of subsidizing insurance for everyone Johonny Mar 2017 #16
It's not really about price, it's about social control ck4829 Mar 2017 #27
I've come to believe that as well ProfessorPlum Mar 2017 #30
God damn that's a cold-blooded assessment Orrex Mar 2017 #34
Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2017 #35
OMG!!!!!11 COMMUNISM!1!!!1!! QC Mar 2017 #41
Think of the poor insurance company CEOs without their umpteen million dollar salaries! raccoon Mar 2017 #42
But then how could the rich profit... discntnt_irny_srcsm Mar 2017 #43
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