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alarimer

(16,245 posts)
82. Chris Cilliza is full of shit.
Wed Mar 15, 2017, 01:36 PM
Mar 2017

Bernie Sanders is a better Democrat than almost anyone currently in the party and he certainly understands the predicament most people are in and is most effective when reaching out (see the recent town halls for example). He is likely more effecting doing that than just about anyone else.

But I guess the team labels matter more than anything else. But there is a reason more and more people identify as independents.

So the complaint mainly seems to be that Sanders is not officially a Dem. It's clear that he touches a nerve. Democrats have failed and failed and failed doing the same thing over and over and over again that they might as well try something else.

Gag order. democratisphere Mar 2017 #1
Lets make sure we manage to disengage future voters today Fresh_Start Mar 2017 #2
Disengage future voters? SFnomad Mar 2017 #63
I'm not disengaged...I think that any "democratic leader" saying they don't know Fresh_Start Mar 2017 #68
Seems his default stance is to always attack the party, a big reason we lost IMO. brush Mar 2017 #110
Quotes like that are simply directed at his base. NCTraveler Mar 2017 #3
So was RT. nt JTFrog Mar 2017 #4
Agreed Gothmog Mar 2017 #48
+1 uponit7771 Mar 2017 #53
But sadly "his base" showed little interest in voting last year, at least voting for Clinton. George II Mar 2017 #95
not just Clinton for Democrats...and it seem as if some want to keep it that way. Demsrule86 Mar 2017 #100
Not too sure about that. I don't recall seeing the numbers. NCTraveler Mar 2017 #115
Even after he pushed her left. nocalflea Mar 2017 #127
He's confused. After all he has been working very hard. And he has caroldansen Mar 2017 #5
Yeah and I thought that was a step in the right direction... Demsrule86 Mar 2017 #90
Stop taking corporate money and being beholden to those donors. very simple really. n/t yodermon Mar 2017 #6
I'm not saying I support taking corporate money Proud Liberal Dem Mar 2017 #67
A lot of people want public financing of elections. Blue_true Mar 2017 #74
"What's Bernie's solution" are you serious yodermon Mar 2017 #122
Tell the so called progressives that are so pure that gave us Trump to stop causing us to lose, Demsrule86 Mar 2017 #91
How about we ban *ALL* the fucking money and make elections publicly funded? Blue_Tires Mar 2017 #108
It's too bad BeyondGeography Mar 2017 #7
I've had too many posts hidden for my remarks on Sanders. randome Mar 2017 #8
I love Bernie, I hope I have half his energy when I'm his age. Sunlei Mar 2017 #10
Ditto n/t jrthin Mar 2017 #70
I have had the same thing happen. If you criticize Sanders Blue_true Mar 2017 #76
Same here. Those cliques are still on the prowl. liquid diamond Mar 2017 #105
who's Chris Cillizza? Another divisive person who doesn't believe 'we're stronger together'? Sunlei Mar 2017 #9
He's a Morning Joe crony and not to be trusted. OnDoutside Mar 2017 #12
oh, thanks is that pay TV news show? Sunlei Mar 2017 #26
Well, I don't pay anyway ;) OnDoutside Mar 2017 #46
I'm sure he just picked up a lot of fans here, though. n/t QC Mar 2017 #78
He'll go round again ;) OnDoutside Mar 2017 #125
He's leaving Wash Post and will join CNN. nt kstewart33 Mar 2017 #18
Cilliza is the consumate walking bedsore BannonsLiver Mar 2017 #21
If its pay 'news entertainment' it's not my cup of tea. Guess that's why I didn't know the name. Sunlei Mar 2017 #39
The article is actually quite laudatory of Sanders' efforts. lapucelle Mar 2017 #111
+1000! KPN Mar 2017 #27
Chris thrives on "controversy ", bless his heart. MaeScott Mar 2017 #36
He was Mr. Both Sides Suck during the GE. Starry Messenger Mar 2017 #133
I thought Sanders was running to be president, not leader lapucelle Mar 2017 #11
I can't comment on this OP WhiteTara Mar 2017 #13
I think many of the .. coco22 Mar 2017 #14
+1000 dchill Mar 2017 #51
WE agree, but MOST know how to read the DNC website and pays have ass'd attention to DNC policy uponit7771 Mar 2017 #55
Look, I am not a Bernie fanboy, but Chris Cillizza? The Polack MSgt Mar 2017 #15
Can't agree more. KPN Mar 2017 #28
No, that was a quote... that's not a "hit" uponit7771 Mar 2017 #57
Not when he calls the Democratic Party the Titanic he is not. Demsrule86 Mar 2017 #93
It may be time for a restraining order. SecularMotion Mar 2017 #16
Against? The Wielding Truth Mar 2017 #83
The Democratic Party is in an abusive relationship with Bernie Sanders. SecularMotion Mar 2017 #124
I don't feel that way. He is a leader for the 99%. He ran with no PAC and no wall street money. The Wielding Truth Mar 2017 #138
The Democratic Party will never be progressive enough for Bernie and his supporters SecularMotion Mar 2017 #141
Those looking to re-fight the primaries need to look deeper than the sound bites... Orsino Mar 2017 #17
This. Great comment, Orsino.n/t ms liberty Mar 2017 #79
Cillizza is a troll budkin Mar 2017 #19
If he doesn't know how can work for the party? Lame. delisen Mar 2017 #20
He should try reading the platform that he helped to negotiate. nt pnwmom Mar 2017 #22
lol JHan Mar 2017 #33
F you Cillizza ProfessorPlum Mar 2017 #23
I wish he was optimistic and postive. More like Keith. #BeLikeKeith NurseJackie Mar 2017 #24
I have met and like Keith Ellison but I did not support his bid for DNC chair Gothmog Mar 2017 #60
Outreach is not one size fits all Tom Rinaldo Mar 2017 #66
You're correct. It's not "one-size-fits-all" ... how can it be? But, it's clearly a mistake... NurseJackie Mar 2017 #80
We see many of the same moving pieces in play but differ in how we weigh them Tom Rinaldo Mar 2017 #96
This message was self-deleted by its author NurseJackie Mar 2017 #129
Keith Ellison is doing it right. He sees the problems and is working Blue_true Mar 2017 #81
Internally... yes, exactly. NurseJackie Mar 2017 #85
What's Chris Cillizza's claim-to-fame? I remember seeing him on Olbermann... NurseJackie Mar 2017 #25
Clizza had a ton of articles attacking Clinton Gothmog Mar 2017 #50
I see what you mean. (Thanks.) NurseJackie Mar 2017 #54
I am not a fan of Clillizza Gothmog Mar 2017 #58
Chris spent his formative years here and it shows. lapucelle Mar 2017 #112
Guess what? choie Mar 2017 #29
For those who can't handle the intellectual rigor of Dead Intern Joe . . . hatrack Mar 2017 #30
Post removed Post removed Mar 2017 #31
His constant "smearing" of the Democratic Party seems to be ... NurseJackie Mar 2017 #59
Cillizza is a dope. KPN Mar 2017 #32
Bernie is working hard for the party flamingdem Mar 2017 #34
He's certainly working hard for Bernie Sanders. WinkyDink Mar 2017 #38
Chuck Schumer agrees with me flamingdem Mar 2017 #41
He's got too much on his plate. He's conflicted in which "job" takes priority (in my opinion.) NurseJackie Mar 2017 #65
I have my own Democartic principles; I don't need to refer to Chuck Schumer's. WinkyDink Mar 2017 #130
I have honestly started to question his endgame. Blue_true Mar 2017 #87
I'd like the status quo under Obama back please. JHan Mar 2017 #35
I would vote for that in a heartbeat! nt brer cat Mar 2017 #47
no one can give a definitive answer, Democratic party has always been a diverse coalition geek tragedy Mar 2017 #37
Is there not a Platform? Are we not the Party of the Social Contract? Of fairness, equality, and WinkyDink Mar 2017 #40
that's not a bad answer, actually nt geek tragedy Mar 2017 #43
That's it exactly. I know it to be so which is why I'm a liberal and a democrat. JHan Mar 2017 #49
God forbid that a progressive activist push any sensitive buttons or get under anyone's skin! lunatica Mar 2017 #42
Post removed Post removed Mar 2017 #99
Democrats need to listen to Sanders and not Corporations lunatica Mar 2017 #104
I would be more than willing to listen if he would join the party... Demsrule86 Mar 2017 #113
So you don't listen even though he has great ideas lunatica Mar 2017 #119
That really is a Heathers level of shallowness, isn't it? n/t QC Mar 2017 #145
I don't know your reference lunatica Mar 2017 #148
A favorite 80s film: QC Mar 2017 #149
Thanks! lunatica Mar 2017 #150
It really is a great film. Very dark takeoff on the John Hughes clichs QC Mar 2017 #151
After Sanders lost the nomination, lapucelle Mar 2017 #117
He's always had that grumpy old man delivery lunatica Mar 2017 #120
I listened to him every Friday for years lapucelle Mar 2017 #121
Maybe one day Perez will let us know. (nt) bekkilyn Mar 2017 #44
You seem concerned. Please feel free to air more of your concerns, and enjoy your stay. nt msanthrope Mar 2017 #103
Not really the place for it, but thank you. (nt) bekkilyn Mar 2017 #107
Post removed Post removed Mar 2017 #45
REALL !?!?!?!??!? uponit7771 Mar 2017 #52
I'm not surprised at all by the reponse you've imagined. LanternWaste Mar 2017 #56
I was following Cillizza on Twitter, recently noticed more support/positive push for Donnie. sarcasmo Mar 2017 #61
How is this outreach? Seriously sad to see this. bettyellen Mar 2017 #62
I appreciate what Sanders contributes to progressive causes Proud Liberal Dem Mar 2017 #64
He had to earn it the old fashioned way. Demonstrating support for his ideas Tom Rinaldo Mar 2017 #72
With Responses Like This Me. Mar 2017 #69
I am in the Democratic Party. Blue_true Mar 2017 #71
Change comes from within. Not because someone shouts at us from the sidelines. NurseJackie Mar 2017 #88
Chris Cillizza is a snake and trying to cause discord within the party. SharonClark Mar 2017 #73
Bernie is Not a Democrat dlk Mar 2017 #75
So true Trumpocalypse Mar 2017 #144
Bernie is a legit spokesman for one wing of the Democrats. LisaM Mar 2017 #77
Chris Cilliza is full of shit. alarimer Mar 2017 #82
He's not wrong. Goblinmonger Mar 2017 #84
Gosh of course we must cut our candidates Demsrule86 Mar 2017 #97
So, one vote for continuing the status quo. Noted. Goblinmonger Mar 2017 #101
No the purity crowd gave us Trump...I am for winning / now that would a change for the better and Demsrule86 Mar 2017 #102
The non-unicorn candidate lost. Goblinmonger Mar 2017 #114
I am one of the people who feel silenced NastyRiffraff Mar 2017 #86
I recently self-deleted and ended what could have been an interesting exchange... NurseJackie Mar 2017 #134
I have self-deleted and backed out of a post NastyRiffraff Mar 2017 #147
Not just that, but apparently actual Sanders quotes are considered to be alert-bait... NurseJackie Mar 2017 #139
And this is why I don't like Bernie Sanders and do not think he is good for the Democratic Party. Demsrule86 Mar 2017 #89
At least those going down with the Titanic (a grossly exaggerated platitude) are on the Titanic.... George II Mar 2017 #92
Well.....there was no "shore." No one to watch. Hubris sunk it, far from help. nt msanthrope Mar 2017 #109
I'm not a Sander's fan but Bernie is his own man TNLib Mar 2017 #94
No big surprise. George II Mar 2017 #98
Would it kill him to say something positive just once? Blue_Tires Mar 2017 #106
I don't like or trust Bernie Sanders and at the same time Cilizza is a slimey POS (this is known). seaglass Mar 2017 #116
What a truly stupid response lunamagica Mar 2017 #118
He doesn't know what the Democratic Party stands for, but he's insisting on changing it anyway. George II Mar 2017 #123
Why should he get a free pass? Nobody else gets one. Why should he? NurseJackie Mar 2017 #136
Years ago when I first put my name in for nomination to a specific office here in town... George II Mar 2017 #146
I know discussing Sanders can be volatile, GallopingGhost Mar 2017 #126
Before Bernie Sanders, my county DP meetings had 6 or 7 in attendance, and Ron Green Mar 2017 #128
I'm not whining at all, for I don't care what he does. Join; don't join. Just don't pretend. WinkyDink Mar 2017 #132
We are seeing the same thing with our meetings where I am also n/t Tom Rinaldo Mar 2017 #135
Loads more people bekkilyn Mar 2017 #137
Yeah, we know. NurseJackie Mar 2017 #140
:) Go Vols Mar 2017 #155
The passengers of the Titanic would've preferred a status quo voyage across the Atlantic ocean. betsuni Mar 2017 #131
For effect, not affect. He is supposed to be a professional writer. nt tblue37 Mar 2017 #142
Maybe if he joined the party, he would find out. Trumpocalypse Mar 2017 #143
He's not a Democrat - why should we care? Lil Missy Mar 2017 #152
If the Democratic ship is the Titanic ymetca Mar 2017 #153
So what does the Democratic Party stand for? truebluegreen Mar 2017 #154
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