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160. to some extent yes, but there are several major differences:
Mon Mar 20, 2017, 09:27 PM
Mar 2017

first, watergate involved only domestic partisans. the involvement of russia raises this scandal to a whole new level.

second, nixon faced a democratic congress in a less partisan era, so impeachment and removal some measure of justice was plausible enough to force nixon out. in donnie's case, he has a hyper-partisan republican congress who is extremely unlikely to impeach and remove him. they likely would much rather simply distance themselves from donnie, give up the white house but keep their seats in congress by avoiding pissing off their hyper-partisan republican constituents.

third, nixon was quite popular, having won re-election with 49 states(!) the downfall and humiliation from such a lofty height to utter disgrace was the stuff of legend. donnie's reputation is already in the crapper.

I mentioned it felt like the beginnings of Watergate several weeks ago. Kablooie Mar 2017 #1
Huge difference. Nixon had a democratic congress yeoman6987 Mar 2017 #188
His supporters are hoping there is no action, that's for sure yeoman6987. Kingofalldems Mar 2017 #189
No. WillowTree Mar 2017 #2
Yes Glitterati Mar 2017 #3
For the past month... jaysunb Mar 2017 #4
not over 60 but read about it and this is a lot worse JI7 Mar 2017 #5
One aspect feels very similar. kentuck Mar 2017 #6
Your 13 words say what I feel and believed then, and now !!!! Stuart G Mar 2017 #9
I was only 8 volstork Mar 2017 #29
Me, too! Cosmocat Mar 2017 #43
THIS oldtime dfl_er Mar 2017 #77
I lived in a Repub area but the kids I went to HS with either hated Nixon or shut up. kerry-is-my-prez Mar 2017 #126
I think trump is much worse than a crook radical noodle Mar 2017 #179
Yes... and no. lapfog_1 Mar 2017 #7
Excellent summary. CrispyQ Mar 2017 #55
I think Rachael Maddow will be that person and jaysunb Mar 2017 #92
My view, too. JohnnyLib2 Mar 2017 #103
What you said. Yes. Much worse crimes and much more complicit and partisan congress. Amaryllis Mar 2017 #131
This is a good summary! calimary Mar 2017 #180
I was very young during Watergate (sigh) but this sure seems worse. skylucy Mar 2017 #8
It's worse. Skidmore Mar 2017 #10
I'll second that! dhol82 Mar 2017 #84
I agree. This is worse. Also, more people are willfully clueless now. yardwork Mar 2017 #129
Much, much worse. Mme. Defarge Mar 2017 #177
Part of me feels like Watergate -- although a bigger crime. Other part hopes it's not Fitzmas. Hoyt Mar 2017 #11
Damn ! you just HAD to go there: Fitzmas. :) n/t jaysunb Mar 2017 #96
No LeftInTX Mar 2017 #12
I was a kid, watched every day, after school.. furtheradu Mar 2017 #13
Sort of, but Watergate took a lot longer. The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2017 #14
It was slow in the beginning Zorro Mar 2017 #15
The reason Butterfield's revelation was so explosive is that, before that, John Dean KingCharlemagne Mar 2017 #53
It's bigger. berni_mccoy Mar 2017 #16
Tricky Dick authorized the CIA to interfere with and obstruct an KingCharlemagne Mar 2017 #56
Yes obstruction. It's still not Treason. berni_mccoy Mar 2017 #71
I think it is treason. classykaren Mar 2017 #117
Yes, it is bigger, but that wasn't the question. Does it FEEL LIKE IT yet? I maintian no. WinkyDink Mar 2017 #127
I agree DUgosh Mar 2017 #161
I watched the Watergate hearings The Blue Flower Mar 2017 #17
Yep. The stakes are much higher jberryhill Mar 2017 #30
I nearly vomited at several points today. msanthrope Mar 2017 #169
No. ananda Mar 2017 #18
It feels different to me. lapucelle Mar 2017 #19
They were sorta on board. truebluegreen Mar 2017 #40
You're probably right...my recollection is hazy. lapucelle Mar 2017 #48
Imo obstruction of justice and propaganda is what they do, now. truebluegreen Mar 2017 #59
Yes, there was a time when obstruction of justice Alice11111 Mar 2017 #82
Mentioned that on a thread this morning malaise Mar 2017 #20
More differences than similarities grantcart Mar 2017 #21
very interesting. The press has already compelled Flynn to resign and KingCharlemagne Mar 2017 #66
This was my thinking as well. Alice11111 Mar 2017 #86
yes. barbtries Mar 2017 #22
the difference is jodymarie aimee Mar 2017 #23
Yep. These are not Gerald Ford Repubs. Professional liars. Alice11111 Mar 2017 #90
Yes, I agree, and this is a BIG difference. Silver Gaia Mar 2017 #116
+1, on the other hand the Ruskies have something on the KGOP leadership I believe... they're lookin uponit7771 Mar 2017 #136
no the con party of today is nothing compared to that con party Ohioblue22 Mar 2017 #24
I'm not over 60 but did study Watergate gopiscrap Mar 2017 #25
No, but it depends on what you mean by "Watergate" jberryhill Mar 2017 #26
We were dealing with a lot saner president in Nixon. Paladin Mar 2017 #27
I am 67 and yes we were. He needs to go. classykaren Mar 2017 #122
Saner offspring as well! WinkyDink Mar 2017 #128
Today did. Chasstev365 Mar 2017 #28
Exactly. These are not responsible, ethical people. Alice11111 Mar 2017 #98
I also listened to Iran/Contra and WhiteTara Mar 2017 #31
Will President Pence pardon Ex-President Trump? NurseJackie Mar 2017 #32
Yes...No doubt if it gets to that point The empressof all Mar 2017 #39
That's an intriguing possibility. But would that end any criminal investigations? NurseJackie Mar 2017 #41
If he is of sound mind it should of course continue The empressof all Mar 2017 #51
He would probably be pardoned. The Repubs won't want investigations and trials goung on forever. Alice11111 Mar 2017 #99
Don't assume Pence will be president Renew Deal Mar 2017 #85
Rachel def proved Pence knew about Flynn-Russia-Turkey wordpix Mar 2017 #89
I listened to the hearings with Butterfield, MyOwnPeace Mar 2017 #33
Its Watergate at light speed. procon Mar 2017 #34
No. Seems, feels, appears worse. n/t sprinkleeninow Mar 2017 #35
Yes and No The empressof all Mar 2017 #36
watergate was bad, this is worse msdogi Mar 2017 #37
Welcome to DU underpants Mar 2017 #57
That was the first time something like that had happened to the country. ginnyinWI Mar 2017 #38
I'm almost 76. This is different. trof Mar 2017 #42
I, too, am vintage. I agree with you. EOM elfin Mar 2017 #158
It's worse. For one thing the House & Senate are so damn polarized, that I haven't seen signs... Hekate Mar 2017 #44
I am not sure at what point Repubs chose country over party, but a significant hlthe2b Mar 2017 #45
It's scarier because the House is infected. tavernier Mar 2017 #46
that's true but also, some Cong'l R's are acting like they're complict wordpix Mar 2017 #93
It's worse. Cracklin Charlie Mar 2017 #47
I'm 64 and feel it's worse. Look on faces of Sen Feinstein and Grassely say much worse IADEMO2004 Mar 2017 #52
Agree. It feels (and IS) much worse. Silver Gaia Mar 2017 #121
I agree dflprincess Mar 2017 #157
No winetourdriver01 Mar 2017 #49
Sam Ervin engendered a lot more confidence and gravitas than Grassley or Nunce. n/t CincyDem Mar 2017 #50
I was 22 years old louis c Mar 2017 #54
Yes DeminPennswoods Mar 2017 #58
That would be a new turn Alice11111 Mar 2017 #102
Yes. It's a cloud over the Presidency... Cooley Hurd Mar 2017 #60
Feeling MFM008 Mar 2017 #61
Pushing 60... Pushing REAL hard. Comatose Sphagetti Mar 2017 #62
Others Here That Are My Age (66) Ccarmona Mar 2017 #63
This is worse lisa58 Mar 2017 #64
This is far worse than Watergate and things are breaking down for doc03 Mar 2017 #65
It should be...but we probably can't even get a Spec Prosecuter Alice11111 Mar 2017 #67
This is worse. gademocrat7 Mar 2017 #68
Yes. Feels like but worse Lint Head Mar 2017 #69
Worse. nt msanthrope Mar 2017 #70
I watched it all too and while the seriousness of it feels similar, Watergate was all in-house . The OregonBlue Mar 2017 #72
No. During Watergate, Rs wanted to get out the truth. Not true with today's Rs. stopbush Mar 2017 #73
At first, the GOPers were solidly behind Nixon. The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2017 #105
Um, no. No, they didn't. WinkyDink Mar 2017 #130
We have a POTUS who may very well be extorted by or a tool of a foreign country underpants Mar 2017 #74
Congress was very, very different then. longship Mar 2017 #75
No. This is like the Strait of Hormuz suddenly springs open, flooding Eden McCamy Taylor Mar 2017 #76
This is like Watergate on steroids plus a spy novel thrown in.... bettyellen Mar 2017 #78
Completely EricMaundry Mar 2017 #79
Pretty much, but Nixon was easier to pity. dchill Mar 2017 #80
71 Mollyann Mar 2017 #81
Maybe Watergate on meth and anabolic steroids Warpy Mar 2017 #83
I agree, Warpy wordpix Mar 2017 #87
By 1974, a lot of people had realized he'd lied about ending the war Warpy Mar 2017 #94
I know, white collar crooks like Nixon make off with the loot wordpix Mar 2017 #149
Watergate was purely domestic. tirebiter Mar 2017 #88
The GOP was not this messed up ThoughtCriminal Mar 2017 #91
Whole new ballgame here... Talk Is Cheap Mar 2017 #95
It does a little though the Democrats were in charge then. jalan48 Mar 2017 #97
Watergate was worse, much worse. kstewart33 Mar 2017 #100
This is far more serious, an election is on trial, not just a President. L. Coyote Mar 2017 #101
Finally, someone on this thread posts what I think is the biggest difference... llmart Mar 2017 #152
Peter Daou: I have diligently avoided saying the 2016 election was stolen L. Coyote Mar 2017 #163
Feels different to me in some respects, similar in others Jarqui Mar 2017 #104
No. By the summer of 1973, I felt Nixon would go down because of the Democratic Congress. John1956PA Mar 2017 #106
Not in the key area... regnaD kciN Mar 2017 #107
No, during Watergate, I was proud of my country Louis1895 Mar 2017 #108
Worse jojog Mar 2017 #109
I hope so! nt Mars and Minerva Mar 2017 #110
No. This is much worse. nancy1942 Mar 2017 #111
One can hope! Liberal In Red State Mar 2017 #112
Nope...We have inept media now... beachbum bob Mar 2017 #113
A bit similar....far worse NRaleighLiberal Mar 2017 #114
No it seems much worse. classykaren Mar 2017 #115
Watergate on speed. Except this is much, much worse. It took forever to get Nixon...... kerry-is-my-prez Mar 2017 #118
It's moving much faster flyingfysh Mar 2017 #119
No - Nixon engaged in coverup KT2000 Mar 2017 #120
Today began to feel like it. world wide wally Mar 2017 #123
Yes indeed! yallerdawg Mar 2017 #124
Not yet. The Republicans are still very dug in. (I watched the Watergate Hearings daily.) WinkyDink Mar 2017 #125
I was only 10 but I watched the hearings with RAPT attention and read ATPM as soon as it was out lostnfound Mar 2017 #132
As far as the number of people involved, Mr.Bill Mar 2017 #133
I am 60 ... this is much worse. We're talking about collusion with Russia Greywing Mar 2017 #134
Worse. But what is familiar is having to go through an election AFTER the first signs pnwmom Mar 2017 #135
It does and it doesn't. NastyRiffraff Mar 2017 #137
Not even close. Scruffy1 Mar 2017 #138
So far, it doesn't for me... BamaRefugee Mar 2017 #139
Can't tell yet. TygrBright Mar 2017 #140
Good analysis! The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2017 #162
Yes! FakeNoose Mar 2017 #174
As a 67-year-old, this sure as hells seems like Watergate, as I have said to others today. Akamai Mar 2017 #141
I'm in my late 60s. This feels Golden Raisin Mar 2017 #142
No it doesn't, this is far worse. 4bucksagallon Mar 2017 #143
This is worse - Watergate was totally domestic and Nixon was essentially sane compared... George II Mar 2017 #144
Yes. To indict underlings to set them up to flip on their bosses to avoid jail time is similar. ancianita Mar 2017 #145
At times I have felt we have been on the verge of another Sat Night Massacre delisen Mar 2017 #146
No. That we had a criminal president was clear, and the "show" felt unprecedented. fleabiscuit Mar 2017 #147
It is different in many ways Lithos Mar 2017 #148
No not yet........... Historic NY Mar 2017 #150
No! CK_John Mar 2017 #151
This is already a much more complex story that involves a lot more characters and mobeau69 Mar 2017 #153
no, because Congressional Republican majority keeps extensive hearings from being held. . . Stargleamer Mar 2017 #154
I don't know...When the repugs got away with outing Valerie Plame...I was.. Tikki Mar 2017 #155
Are you watching MSNBC tonight? John Dean was on and said this is almost exactly like napi21 Mar 2017 #156
Yes, on Chris Hayes' show. moondust Mar 2017 #159
to some extent yes, but there are several major differences: unblock Mar 2017 #160
Still not sure how they will get Trump without tax returns redstateblues Mar 2017 #164
No Hangingon Mar 2017 #165
no... Heartstrings Mar 2017 #166
Yes s-cubed Mar 2017 #167
I was fresh out of HS for Watergate benld74 Mar 2017 #168
Break-in: 06/17/1972; Sat. Night Massacre: 10/08/1973; Resignation: 08/08/1974; Pardon 09/08/1974 John1956PA Mar 2017 #193
The actual offense is way worse, but nothing will happen GulfCoast66 Mar 2017 #170
Before reading any response I will reply rufus dog Mar 2017 #171
Yes, it has a similar "slow moving train wreck" dynamic to it. roamer65 Mar 2017 #172
I only Remember Clinton's impeachment Juliusseizure Mar 2017 #173
Trump era is like a Watergate, Cold War intrigue , and a rising third reich era trifecta lunasun Mar 2017 #175
Worse because lots of moderate republicans then marlakay Mar 2017 #176
It feels much worse than Watergate to me radical noodle Mar 2017 #178
This isnt like Watergate. madamesilverspurs Mar 2017 #181
Yes and No dem in texas Mar 2017 #182
I was in college during Watergate. I must say this seems 1000 times worse. southerncrone Mar 2017 #183
No, this is much worse Samantha Mar 2017 #184
Ancient Vulcan Proverb; A HERETIC I AM Mar 2017 #185
There are a couple direct connections to Nixon DeminPennswoods Mar 2017 #186
John Dean, today mentioned that Sean Spicer was doing a Cover-up by diminishing the roles of riversedge Mar 2017 #187
Watergate took two years to develop and so yes there are similarities Gothmog Mar 2017 #190
I was never scared during Watergate, just angry. Greybnk48 Mar 2017 #191
The grand jury was key DeminPennswoods Mar 2017 #192
Big difference: Democrats controlled the House and Senate in 1974 onenote Mar 2017 #194
The only question Dan Mar 2017 #195
I set my monitor to B&W so it looks more authentic. Atman Mar 2017 #196
Question..to anyone reading this...did Nunes just create a situation like ..Saturday Night Massacre? Stuart G Mar 2017 #197
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