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In reply to the discussion: Russia is not our Adversary [View all]grantcart
(53,061 posts)33. The OP isn't Putin is not our adversary, it is Russia is not our adversary
Any attempt to find a distinction between the murderous Putin and the murderous Duerte is a thin meal of sophistry.
Duerte is averaging 40 murders a week.
As for not degrading our country, Duerte has been railing against the US and openly talks about replacing the US with China or Russia,
http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/2016/10/philippines-rodrigo-duterte-pivot-china-161012062518615.html
Duerte doesn't want to degrade America?
First he threatened to expel American Special Forces aiding Filipino counterterror operations in the southern island of Mindanao.
Then he suggested ending joint maritime patrols and military exercises with America in the South China Sea and, more recently, even discussed the possibility of abrogating defence agreements with the US.
Meanwhile, Duterte went so far as considering an alliance with Russia and China. Currently, the Duterte administration is negotiating a 25-year military agreement with Beijing, paving the way for purchase of Chinese weaponry by the largely US-equipped and trained armed forces of the Philippines.
We provided Philippines $ 250 million a year in general aid and $ 150 in direct military aid a year. I am not suggesting that we turn Duerte into an all or nothing issue either. We need to work with our allies to confront Putin but that should not preclude us from finding areas of agreement in areas that are in our interest like preventing a war with Iran.
Demonizing the entire country of Russia may be emotionally satisfying but it solves nothing.
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Comey just confirmed both political parties were hacked in 2016 by Russiansbut that only Democratic
Cha
Mar 2017
#2
The misdeeds of Putin and his cronyies cannot be separate from the Russian state
Gothmog
Mar 2017
#79
When you say, "Russia doesnt want to dominate Europe," do you include Eastern Europe?
RelativelyJones
Mar 2017
#6
"The Russian people are not our adversaries or our enemies. " In that case Germany wasn't our ...
uponit7771
Mar 2017
#35
+1, we'd be in the same boat if we were in the same boat with Bush and Iraq ... the American people
uponit7771
Mar 2017
#45
LA Times - "Moscow welcomes the (would-be) sovereign nations of California and Texas"
TomCADem
Mar 2017
#15
when talking about politics it is about the Russian Govt which is Putin and this is especially
JI7
Mar 2017
#47
St Petersburg was glorious! I also went to an old medieval city and Moscow but
bettyellen
Mar 2017
#70
I suggest any American that believes Russia/Putin is not an adversary read the following:
Nevermypresident
Mar 2017
#32
Does the following not "read" adversarial toward our liberal democracy of the U.S.?
Nevermypresident
Mar 2017
#48
With the advent of solid rocket ICBM's Russia became America's enemy for all time.
gordianot
Mar 2017
#34
Russia is our adversary. And I mean the Russian populace. Try visiting there. I have. nt
msanthrope
Mar 2017
#58
#2 - Characterizing the Warsaw Pact states as "autonomous" and "friendly" is an offensive lie.
cemaphonic
Mar 2017
#68
It would be nice for the OP to say how he would characterize our relationship with Russia.
DemocratSinceBirth
Mar 2017
#71
Putin is not just after Eastern Europe. He considers Finland and Sweden as Russian satellites.
KittyWampus
Mar 2017
#73
Russia is our adversary. There is no question about it and the game of semantics doesn't work.
NCTraveler
Mar 2017
#81
"U.S.A has done it, too, by one expert's count, more than 80 times worldwide between 1946 and 2000."
Hoyt
Mar 2017
#82
They don't understand that Russia is not socialist or communist but full on Fascist now.
Demsrule86
Mar 2017
#97
We can vote Trump out next time...But Putin will kill any of his opponents...thus Putin is Russia.
Demsrule86
Mar 2017
#96
Putin and his mobs bosses are the enemy and they rule Russia. Like saying Hitler was the enemy in
McCamy Taylor
Mar 2017
#93
They attacked our electoral democracy itself. They are not adversaries, they are enemies
geek tragedy
Mar 2017
#94