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In reply to the discussion: Russia is not our Adversary [View all]GliderGuider
(21,088 posts)72. How does Duginist geopolitics fit that benign framework?
Foundations of Geopolitics
The book declares that "the battle for the world rule of [ethnic] Russians" has not ended and Russia remains "the staging area of a new anti-bourgeois, anti-American revolution." The Eurasian Empire will be constructed "on the fundamental principle of the common enemy: the rejection of Atlanticism, strategic control of the USA, and the refusal to allow liberal values to dominate us."[1]
Military operations play relatively little role. The textbook believes in a sophisticated program of subversion, destabilization, and disinformation spearheaded by the Russian special services. The operations should be assisted by a tough, hard-headed utilization of Russia's gas, oil, and natural resources to bully and pressure other countries.[1]
The book states that "the maximum task [of the future] is the 'Finlandization' of all of Europe".[1]
In Europe:
Russia should use its special services within the borders of the United States to fuel instability and separatism, for instance, provoke "Afro-American racists". Russia should "introduce geopolitical disorder into internal American activity, encouraging all kinds of separatism and ethnic, social and racial conflicts, actively supporting all dissident movements extremist, racist, and sectarian groups, thus destabilizing internal political processes in the U.S. It would also make sense simultaneously to support isolationist tendencies in American politics."[1]
The Eurasian Project could be expanded to South and Central America.[1]
The book declares that "the battle for the world rule of [ethnic] Russians" has not ended and Russia remains "the staging area of a new anti-bourgeois, anti-American revolution." The Eurasian Empire will be constructed "on the fundamental principle of the common enemy: the rejection of Atlanticism, strategic control of the USA, and the refusal to allow liberal values to dominate us."[1]
Military operations play relatively little role. The textbook believes in a sophisticated program of subversion, destabilization, and disinformation spearheaded by the Russian special services. The operations should be assisted by a tough, hard-headed utilization of Russia's gas, oil, and natural resources to bully and pressure other countries.[1]
The book states that "the maximum task [of the future] is the 'Finlandization' of all of Europe".[1]
In Europe:
- Germany should be offered the de facto political dominance over most Protestant and Catholic states located within Central and Eastern Europe. Kaliningrad oblast could be given back to Germany. The book uses the term "Moscow-Berlin axis".[1]
France should be encouraged to form a "Franco-German bloc" with Germany. Both countries have a "firm anti-Atlanticist tradition".[1] - The United Kingdom should be cut off from Europe.[1]
- Finland should be absorbed into Russia. Southern Finland will be combined with the Republic of Karelia and northern Finland will be "donated to Murmansk Oblast".[1]
- Estonia should be given to Germany's sphere of influence.[1]
- Latvia and Lithuania should be given a "special status" in the Eurasian-Russian sphere.[1]
- Poland should be granted a "special status" in the Eurasian sphere.[1]
- Romania, Macedonia, "Serbian Bosnia" and Greece "orthodox collectivist East" will unite with "Moscow the Third Rome" and reject the "rational-individualistic West".[1]
- Ukraine should be annexed by Russia because "Ukraine as a state has no geopolitical meaning, no particular cultural import or universal significance, no geographic uniqueness, no ethnic exclusiveness, its certain territorial ambitions represents an enormous danger for all of Eurasia and, without resolving the Ukrainian problem, it is in general senseless to speak about continental politics". Ukraine should not be allowed to remain independent, unless it is cordon sanitaire, which would be inadmissible.[1]
- The book stresses the "continental Russian-Islamic alliance" which lies "at the foundation of anti-Atlanticist strategy". The alliance is based on the "traditional character of Russian and Islamic civilization".
- Iran is a key ally. The book uses the term "Moscow-Tehran axis".[1]
Armenia has a special role: It will serve as a "strategic base," and it is necessary to create "the [subsidiary] axis Moscow-Erevan- - Teheran". Armenians "are an Aryan people
[like] the Iranians and the Kurds".[1]
- Azerbaijan could be "split up" or given to Iran.[1]
- Georgia should be dismembered. Abkhazia and "United Ossetia" (which includes Georgia's South Ossetia) will be incorporated into Russia. Georgia's independent policies are unacceptable.[1]
- Russia needs to create "geopolitical shocks" within Turkey. These can be achieved by employing Kurds, Armenians and other minorities.[1]
- The book regards the Caucasus as a Russian territory, including "the eastern and northern shores of the Caspian (the territories of Kazakhstan and Turkmenistan)" and Central Asia (mentioning Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, Kyrgyzstan and Tajikistan).[1]
- China, which represents a danger to Russia, "must, to the maximum degree possible, be dismantled". Dugin suggests that Russia start by taking Tibet-Xinjiang-Mongolia-Manchuria as a security belt.[2] Russia should offer China help "in a southern direction Indochina (except Vietnam), the Philippines, Indonesia, Australia" as geopolitical compensation.[1]
- Russia should manipulate Japanese politics by offering the Kuril Islands to Japan and provoking anti-Americanism.[1]
- Mongolia should be absorbed into Eurasia-Russia.[1]
- The book emphasizes that Russia must spread Anti-Americanism everywhere: "the main 'scapegoat' will be precisely the U.S."
Russia should use its special services within the borders of the United States to fuel instability and separatism, for instance, provoke "Afro-American racists". Russia should "introduce geopolitical disorder into internal American activity, encouraging all kinds of separatism and ethnic, social and racial conflicts, actively supporting all dissident movements extremist, racist, and sectarian groups, thus destabilizing internal political processes in the U.S. It would also make sense simultaneously to support isolationist tendencies in American politics."[1]
The Eurasian Project could be expanded to South and Central America.[1]
That all sounds kind of adversarial to me!
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Comey just confirmed both political parties were hacked in 2016 by Russiansbut that only Democratic
Cha
Mar 2017
#2
The misdeeds of Putin and his cronyies cannot be separate from the Russian state
Gothmog
Mar 2017
#79
When you say, "Russia doesnt want to dominate Europe," do you include Eastern Europe?
RelativelyJones
Mar 2017
#6
"The Russian people are not our adversaries or our enemies. " In that case Germany wasn't our ...
uponit7771
Mar 2017
#35
+1, we'd be in the same boat if we were in the same boat with Bush and Iraq ... the American people
uponit7771
Mar 2017
#45
LA Times - "Moscow welcomes the (would-be) sovereign nations of California and Texas"
TomCADem
Mar 2017
#15
when talking about politics it is about the Russian Govt which is Putin and this is especially
JI7
Mar 2017
#47
St Petersburg was glorious! I also went to an old medieval city and Moscow but
bettyellen
Mar 2017
#70
I suggest any American that believes Russia/Putin is not an adversary read the following:
Nevermypresident
Mar 2017
#32
Does the following not "read" adversarial toward our liberal democracy of the U.S.?
Nevermypresident
Mar 2017
#48
With the advent of solid rocket ICBM's Russia became America's enemy for all time.
gordianot
Mar 2017
#34
Russia is our adversary. And I mean the Russian populace. Try visiting there. I have. nt
msanthrope
Mar 2017
#58
#2 - Characterizing the Warsaw Pact states as "autonomous" and "friendly" is an offensive lie.
cemaphonic
Mar 2017
#68
It would be nice for the OP to say how he would characterize our relationship with Russia.
DemocratSinceBirth
Mar 2017
#71
Putin is not just after Eastern Europe. He considers Finland and Sweden as Russian satellites.
KittyWampus
Mar 2017
#73
Russia is our adversary. There is no question about it and the game of semantics doesn't work.
NCTraveler
Mar 2017
#81
"U.S.A has done it, too, by one expert's count, more than 80 times worldwide between 1946 and 2000."
Hoyt
Mar 2017
#82
They don't understand that Russia is not socialist or communist but full on Fascist now.
Demsrule86
Mar 2017
#97
We can vote Trump out next time...But Putin will kill any of his opponents...thus Putin is Russia.
Demsrule86
Mar 2017
#96
Putin and his mobs bosses are the enemy and they rule Russia. Like saying Hitler was the enemy in
McCamy Taylor
Mar 2017
#93
They attacked our electoral democracy itself. They are not adversaries, they are enemies
geek tragedy
Mar 2017
#94