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Cary

(11,746 posts)
85. What's your point?
Tue Mar 21, 2017, 06:12 PM
Mar 2017

Because we have interfered in the elections of others (assuming you are correct) we should tolerate Putin interfering in ours?

Fuck that.

Russia is not our Adversary [View all] grantcart Mar 2017 OP
If "Russia is not our adversary"... regnaD kciN Mar 2017 #1
Comey just confirmed both political parties were hacked in 2016 by Russiansbut that only Democratic Cha Mar 2017 #2
Russia attacked the US and that is not the actions of a friend Gothmog Mar 2017 #78
And so the Isaac Deutscher thesis still holds..... elfin Mar 2017 #3
I never saw the blue book essay on the west coast. grantcart Mar 2017 #4
The chapter in our text concentrated on the warm water port urgency Russia felt elfin Mar 2017 #10
I see grantcart Mar 2017 #13
Attack our democracy equals Adversary, with my easy math. nt fleabiscuit Mar 2017 #5
Your easy math equals your easy read which stopped at the title. grantcart Mar 2017 #12
Actually that's how you read my post. nt fleabiscuit Mar 2017 #60
The misdeeds of Putin and his cronyies cannot be separate from the Russian state Gothmog Mar 2017 #79
"Winter is Coming" nt fleabiscuit Mar 2017 #86
When you say, "Russia doesnt want to dominate Europe," do you include Eastern Europe? RelativelyJones Mar 2017 #6
No what I said was that they have wanted to control Eastern Europe sine 1600 grantcart Mar 2017 #8
All that aside, how does this not make Russia adversarial? RelativelyJones Mar 2017 #22
advesary is a binary term grantcart Mar 2017 #24
"The Russian people are not our adversaries or our enemies. " In that case Germany wasn't our ... uponit7771 Mar 2017 #35
Exactly, it would mean there is no such thing as an adversary BainsBane Mar 2017 #44
+1, we'd be in the same boat if we were in the same boat with Bush and Iraq ... the American people uponit7771 Mar 2017 #45
I agree. Russia is not our adversary. Xolodno Mar 2017 #7
They see us as an obstacle. They don't want to destroy us but simply create grantcart Mar 2017 #9
True as they don't want to destroy the US. Xolodno Mar 2017 #14
I believe the Putin regime is an adversary. Russia not so much stevenleser Mar 2017 #11
Exactly. nt SunSeeker Mar 2017 #18
+1 uponit7771 Mar 2017 #36
LA Times - "Moscow welcomes the (would-be) sovereign nations of California and Texas" TomCADem Mar 2017 #15
That murderous kleptocrat Putin is most certainly our adversary. SunSeeker Mar 2017 #16
So the entire Russian People are our advesaries grantcart Mar 2017 #25
No, the Russian people are Putin's victims. SunSeeker Mar 2017 #30
The OP isn't Putin is not our adversary, it is Russia is not our adversary grantcart Mar 2017 #33
Putin is NOT French uponit7771 Mar 2017 #38
and Russia is not Putin grantcart Mar 2017 #39
Again, in that case Germany was never Hitler after Poland uponit7771 Mar 2017 #40
I don't know why you're doing this, grantcart. SunSeeker Mar 2017 #64
Exactly, agree Sculpin Beauregard Apr 2017 #101
Question to Comey & Rodgers... Historic NY Mar 2017 #17
i think when we say Russia we mainly mean Putin JI7 Mar 2017 #19
Sorry but that is not what they said. grantcart Mar 2017 #26
when talking about politics it is about the Russian Govt which is Putin and this is especially JI7 Mar 2017 #47
St Petersburg was glorious! I also went to an old medieval city and Moscow but bettyellen Mar 2017 #70
Warm water port? tirebiter Mar 2017 #20
adversarial: moondust Mar 2017 #21
It is a complex issue grantcart Mar 2017 #29
Agree with you in the main. ucrdem Mar 2017 #23
Interesting post. Thanks grantcart. ♡ eom littlemissmartypants Mar 2017 #27
Point #1 Separation Mar 2017 #28
From the article grantcart Mar 2017 #31
I suggest any American that believes Russia/Putin is not an adversary read the following: Nevermypresident Mar 2017 #32
I believe that any person who equates grantcart Mar 2017 #37
Your post isn't about the Russian people vs. the Putin regime BainsBane Mar 2017 #43
Does the following not "read" adversarial toward our liberal democracy of the U.S.? Nevermypresident Mar 2017 #48
With the advent of solid rocket ICBM's Russia became America's enemy for all time. gordianot Mar 2017 #34
They interferred with our election to place a fascist in power BainsBane Mar 2017 #41
absolutely still_one Mar 2017 #49
The OP is ignoring these facts Gothmog Mar 2017 #80
Russia already had access to warm water ports in the Black Sea Kaleva Mar 2017 #42
Rostove on the Don is a river port, 20 miles upstream from the Sea of Azov Lurks Often Mar 2017 #67
The seaport is located on the shores of the Sea of Azov Kaleva Mar 2017 #69
The map at wikipedia says otherwise Lurks Often Mar 2017 #76
The port of Novorussk is one of the largest in Russia Kaleva Mar 2017 #83
It's a moot point, Russia is not going to give up the Crimea and Lurks Often Mar 2017 #84
Putin (and the rest of his authoritarian Russian govt.) IS our adversary. pnwmom Mar 2017 #46
We are at war with Eastasia... uriel1972 Mar 2017 #50
The same comments almost exactly applied to Saddam's Iraq. Think about it. nikibatts Mar 2017 #51
The republican party is our adversary texasfiddler Mar 2017 #52
Why sure! ananda Mar 2017 #53
Right or wrong, when George W Bush was president, world opinion of the U.S still_one Mar 2017 #54
I find the hypothesis to be a distinction without a difference. Exilednight Mar 2017 #55
Russia's ultranationalism is disturbing and frankly a threat to the world. joshcryer Mar 2017 #56
If you're not a mole, you sound like one Juliusseizure Mar 2017 #57
Russia is our adversary. And I mean the Russian populace. Try visiting there. I have. nt msanthrope Mar 2017 #58
I see the Russian regime as our adversary bigtree Mar 2017 #59
I think some on this thread missed your point, but I think ms liberty Mar 2017 #61
Russia is governed by a criminal organization. kentuck Mar 2017 #62
What term would you use to describe our relationship ? DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2017 #63
I respectfully disagree. Putin is the de-facto leader of Russia. Tatiana Mar 2017 #65
Whatever helps you sleep at night. nt JTFrog Mar 2017 #66
#2 - Characterizing the Warsaw Pact states as "autonomous" and "friendly" is an offensive lie. cemaphonic Mar 2017 #68
It would be nice for the OP to say how he would characterize our relationship with Russia. DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2017 #71
Quoting from the OP cemaphonic Mar 2017 #74
The Warsaw Pact was a hell of a cordon sanitaire. DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2017 #75
How does Duginist geopolitics fit that benign framework? GliderGuider Mar 2017 #72
Putin is not just after Eastern Europe. He considers Finland and Sweden as Russian satellites. KittyWampus Mar 2017 #73
Russia is not our friend and I strongly disagree with the premise of the OP Gothmog Mar 2017 #77
Russia is our adversary. There is no question about it and the game of semantics doesn't work. NCTraveler Mar 2017 #81
"U.S.A has done it, too, by one expert's count, more than 80 times worldwide between 1946 and 2000." Hoyt Mar 2017 #82
What's your point? Cary Mar 2017 #85
Then call up your Congresspeople and tell them you support war with Russia. Hoyt Mar 2017 #87
I see. Cary Mar 2017 #90
It never ceases to amaze me how foolish some... MicaelS Mar 2017 #88
They don't understand that Russia is not socialist or communist but full on Fascist now. Demsrule86 Mar 2017 #97
Putin is not Russia tavernier Mar 2017 #89
We can vote Trump out next time...But Putin will kill any of his opponents...thus Putin is Russia. Demsrule86 Mar 2017 #96
I am Latvian American. tavernier Mar 2017 #98
He is a terrible person...and you go against him...you risk your life. Demsrule86 Mar 2017 #99
Uhhh... they are now! Adrahil Mar 2017 #91
They most definitely are our adversary. roamer65 Mar 2017 #92
Putin and his mobs bosses are the enemy and they rule Russia. Like saying Hitler was the enemy in McCamy Taylor Mar 2017 #93
They attacked our electoral democracy itself. They are not adversaries, they are enemies geek tragedy Mar 2017 #94
Russia is our enemy and has been for many years. Demsrule86 Mar 2017 #95
Prominent "leaders" in our party remain silent on this important fact... NurseJackie Apr 2017 #100
Amen sister... Demsrule86 Apr 2017 #102
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