We're Americans (Reply #72) - Democratic Underground

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Response to Sarah Ibarruri (Original post)

Fri Dec 30, 2011, 08:42 AM

72. We're Americans

It seems to be our lot in life to suffer, at least those of us in the 99%- and we're basically raised/propagandized to believe that suffering is basically "the order of things" in this country and that expecting anything better would be demanding/inviting socialist tyranny be loosed upon our country.

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74 replies	Author	Time	Post
Why do we work harder than Germans? [View all]	Sarah Ibarruri	Dec 2011	OP
"Shut up and go back to your cubical"	FreakinDJ	Dec 2011	#1
Dumber? More indoctrinated? More broke? nt	bemildred	Dec 2011	#2
All of the above? OR a nefarious capitalistic system that is a slave driver? I think the latter	Sarah Ibarruri	Dec 2011	#11
Last year, I had a horrible cold.	Javaman	Dec 2011	#3
Worker drones is what workers are in the U.S. - perfect name.	Sarah Ibarruri	Dec 2011	#7
"American dream" ideology keeps Americans at work longer	Bragi	Dec 2011	#4
We are disposable and are disposed of every day.	Javaman	Dec 2011	#6
The American Dream was a nice piece of propaganda. It sounds great on paper and in movies.	Sarah Ibarruri	Dec 2011	#15
Agreed, the truth lies in statistics, not anecdotes	Bragi	Dec 2011	#27
People need to make that clear to others, so finally the myth of the American Dream will die. Part	Sarah Ibarruri	Dec 2011	#29
Yep	Bragi	Dec 2011	#32
And that's a huge part of the message of OCCUPY. Thank goodness for OCCUPY and ANONYMOUS nt	Sarah Ibarruri	Dec 2011	#43
there are still a lot of people who believe in the "dream"	Nostalgic	Dec 2011	#66
As has already been pointed out by greater minds than mine:	JDPriestly	Dec 2011	#52
The American Dream continues to be a dream and not a reality. nt	Sarah Ibarruri	Dec 2011	#55
I tend to refer to it as the American Nightmare -	TBF	Dec 2011	#61
LOL! I loved and love George Carlin nt	Sarah Ibarruri	Dec 2011	#64
omg I never thought of it that way.	Nostalgic	Dec 2011	#65
Americans waste their time AT work	izquierdista	Dec 2011	#5
I'm sure that can happen. After all, they expect you to not waste 1 second. nt	Sarah Ibarruri	Dec 2011	#9
I guess that depends on the type of job	dana_b	Dec 2011	#46
We are conditioned.	Turbineguy	Dec 2011	#8
Yup, the American workplace is an experiment with hamster-people. nt	Sarah Ibarruri	Dec 2011	#10
see my post at #6. nt	Javaman	Dec 2011	#12
Because our safety net is weak	cthulu2016	Dec 2011	#13
Exactly. And the fact that American corporations took jobs out of here and took them elsewhere	Sarah Ibarruri	Dec 2011	#18
Good old American-style Calvinism	hifiguy	Dec 2011	#14
EXACTLY! The employer here is a king. The workers are the serfs. You know what's funny?	Sarah Ibarruri	Dec 2011	#17
Calvin was so obnoxious that	hifiguy	Dec 2011	#23
LOL! Serves him right. I didn't know that, by the way. Now I think I want to read his bio.	Sarah Ibarruri	Dec 2011	#28
one reason	SixthSense	Dec 2011	#16
Que?	gater	Dec 2011	#25
sadly	SixthSense	Dec 2011	#26
What the relevant and precise amount of work-hours going into our NATO commitments	LanternWaste	Dec 2011	#34
not sure where I'd get the numbers to calculate that	SixthSense	Dec 2011	#36
You made the assertion that Americans work harder to fulfill our commitment to NATO	LanternWaste	Dec 2011	#38
A lot of spending is fungible	SixthSense	Dec 2011	#41
Are the theaters really that separate?	JDPriestly	Dec 2011	#53
Post removed	Post removed	Dec 2011	#19
That's partly it.	Sarah Ibarruri	Dec 2011	#20
Also, when we are working there is a whole "LOOK BUSY" mentality.	Odin2005	Dec 2011	#21
YES! That 'look busy' mentality is sick, and typically only found in third world nations. nt	Sarah Ibarruri	Dec 2011	#22
Jesus is coming.	hifiguy	Dec 2011	#24
Well they went through terrible events in the 20th century	Drale	Dec 2011	#30
Because Germans were witness to a dictatorial regime that took them into an unnecessary	Lint Head	Dec 2011	#31
Kaiser Wilhelm? nt	Snake Alchemist	Dec 2011	#35
Maybe so. However, the French workers have it even better. nt	Sarah Ibarruri	Dec 2011	#40
Some observations . . .	HughBeaumont	Dec 2011	#33
This is the best description of the American worker's life I have ever seen.	Sarah Ibarruri	Dec 2011	#39
That is a brilliant and accurate description of the	hifiguy	Dec 2011	#59
Incredibly strict immigration laws?	Snake Alchemist	Dec 2011	#37
I'm not a good one to ask about immigration. I think Mexicans clearly are not occupying...	Sarah Ibarruri	Dec 2011	#42
Not sure what this has to do with my response.	Snake Alchemist	Dec 2011	#44
Brown nosing and yes men are as American as apple pie.	Tierra_y_Libertad	Dec 2011	#45
Which brings up a question: how are Americans raised to be this way? Is it the very concept of the	Sarah Ibarruri	Dec 2011	#48
America has made "working hard" into a moral issue and an indication of "worthiness".	Tierra_y_Libertad	Dec 2011	#49
"Why do we work harder than Germans?"	MilesColtrane	Dec 2011	#47
+1	obnoxiousdrunk	Dec 2011	#50
There are several people in my office today, hacking and sneezing.	lapislzi	Dec 2011	#51
It's the American way!	Sarah Ibarruri	Dec 2011	#54
Do they really get paid more?	hfojvt	Dec 2011	#56
Well, when I lived abroad years ago, I went as a school teacher. I had taught here...	Sarah Ibarruri	Dec 2011	#57
The huge difference is made up of the welfare safety net and health care, I think	KitSileya	Dec 2011	#58
Thank you so much for posting this. I think sometimes we Americans are ignorant of how others live	Sarah Ibarruri	Dec 2011	#63
right now I have 36 days of sick leave	hfojvt	Dec 2011	#68
Because the PTB like it that way.	Rex	Dec 2011	#60
workers are part of decision teams	RainDog	Dec 2011	#62
They don't seem to have greater productivity.	dems_rightnow	Dec 2011	#67
The Puritan-Ethic is pervasive and long-lasting	SoCalDem	Dec 2011	#69
Definitely. Problem is, other former Protestant ethic countries got healed....	Sarah Ibarruri	Dec 2011	#73
kr Great thread. I experienced this in retail.	Norrin Radd	Dec 2011	#70
Thanks! The 'look busy' bs, you mean? nt	Sarah Ibarruri	Dec 2011	#71
We're Americans	Proud Liberal Dem	Dec 2011	#72
Many reasons, but I believe it's because of our lack of universal health care	Politicub	Dec 2011	#74

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