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Proud Liberal Dem

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48. As much as I support Medicare For All

Mon Apr 3, 2017, 04:59 PM

Apr 2017

it's obviously NOT going to happen right now and blasting Democrats for not signing onto a piece of legislation that will NEVER be considered as long as the Republicans are in total control of the Federal Government is fruitless and counterproductive IMHO. We could STILL lose ACA at this point and should be ensuring that Democrats hold the line against repealing/sabotaging ACA and fighting against re-introduction of any Republican "alternatives". When we're back in the majority again in Congress and have a Democratic President, we can talk more realistically about what the next step forward will be in terms of healthcare, though passing a Public Option and/or lowering the Medicare age down a bit are IMHO much more realistic short-term goals for improving ACA. I think that single payer will need to be successfully piloted in a state (i.e. California) before it can go national.

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The 111 House Democrats NOT Supporting HR676/Medicare For All [View all] CousinIT Apr 2017 OP

Do you mean they are against it, or just haven't signed on yet? mvd Apr 2017 #1

I suspect it's "haven't signed on" in some cases, opposed in some. They need to hear... CousinIT Apr 2017 #2

Agree 100%. Thanks for the thread! mvd Apr 2017 #3

EXACTLY!!!! PatrickforO Apr 2017 #7

Why would they expend political capital on something Hortensis Apr 2017 #41

Disagreed on all counts mvd Apr 2017 #43

Patience. It isn't time for that. THIS is the time Hortensis Apr 2017 #46

Yes but has nothing to do with this bill mvd Apr 2017 #47

That's a pointless distraction at this time. Won't happen. Hortensis Apr 2017 #51

And yet the Republicans voted 60 (?) times to repeal Obamacare. It's important for the base. OnDoutside Apr 2017 #44

Right on! It's about determination. mvd Apr 2017 #45

The republicans controlled the House and Senate tammywammy Apr 2017 #52

The batshit-crazy HOUSE voted 60 times. Hortensis Apr 2017 #55

K&R MontanaMama Apr 2017 #4

calling hanabusa's office tomorrw here in honolulu nt msongs Apr 2017 #5

Please observe Pelosi's zentrum Apr 2017 #6

So are you telling me this has already gone through Committee, and a date on the Calender been set? still_one Apr 2017 #12

I'm saying call her... zentrum Apr 2017 #16

Do you know what happens if a bill doesn't get out of committee? Do you understand that the still_one Apr 2017 #18

Oh God. zentrum Apr 2017 #22

Do you realize how a bill becomes law? The time to contact your representative is if the bill still_one Apr 2017 #26

If a proposed bill has en entire party behind it Kentonio Apr 2017 #28

Yes there is. Ask your representative to co-sponsor it. n/t Ms. Toad Apr 2017 #32

Nothing to support? zentrum Apr 2017 #35

Thank you for posting this! PatrickforO Apr 2017 #8

Has HR676 been through committee and a calendar date set? still_one Apr 2017 #9

Lol No and it probably won't. SaschaHM Apr 2017 #10

That is what I thought, and it sets up a false narrative against these Democrats, who incidently still_one Apr 2017 #11

Right and given that the bill has a nice paragraph on taxes to pay for it... SaschaHM Apr 2017 #13

That isn't going to happen Sascha still_one Apr 2017 #15

I don't think it's going to, but if this bill picks up steam and heat... SaschaHM Apr 2017 #20

A lot can be done using a zentrum Apr 2017 #23

I understand your point, but that is why 2016 was so critical on so many levels. still_one Apr 2017 #25

No, this whole thing provides "Justice Democrats" another opportunity..... George II Apr 2017 #39

Justice Democrats radical noodle Apr 2017 #14

It is very unlikely that the bill will ever get out of committee, so characterizing these still_one Apr 2017 #17

Yes, I know and that's why I called it an attack on Dems radical noodle Apr 2017 #19

The idea isn't that we should be angry at those Democrats. It's that if Eric J in MN Apr 2017 #31

The Subject is totally misleading radical noodle Apr 2017 #33

If that was their intention, the graphics used might have been more polite in itself. Reread... George II Apr 2017 #40

Profit needs to have no impact on health care mvd Apr 2017 #50

I think you're (possibly) confusing "co-sponsoring" with supporting here. herding cats Apr 2017 #21

Maybe that is it, because unless it gets scheduled there is nothing to support still_one Apr 2017 #27

It is a public statement of support - and often there are many co-sponsors Ms. Toad Apr 2017 #54

This is a bit of propaganda from "Justice Democrats" synergie Apr 2017 #24

AhI rememberthe "Justice Democrats" are a shadowy, disreputable group with questionable motives. NurseJackie Apr 2017 #34

I admit that I occasionally enjoy Cenk's TYT rants Proud Liberal Dem Apr 2017 #49

The bill hasn't even been in committee yet or been up for debate or vote on the floor of the House. George II Apr 2017 #29

Wow George, you just put things in a perspective that is easy to understand still_one Apr 2017 #36

Another thread to divide Democrats...why else put it out here...won't work. Demsrule86 Apr 2017 #30

This graphic is wrong. tammywammy Apr 2017 #37

This is a completely phony narrative pushed by an extremist group. Foamfollower Apr 2017 #38

Yup. They want to "purge" the party of everyone who Hortensis Apr 2017 #42

As much as I support Medicare For All Proud Liberal Dem Apr 2017 #48

The GOP loves this kind of stuff. Getting Dems to attack other Dems rather than Republicans. DanTex Apr 2017 #53